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right? What is that? People of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the way form podcasts.

It's a busy one. We are hosts and it's C K. As of the time you're watching this ce every january or a kicks off the year.

So we've got a lot of new things in the tech world to just ponder about and talk about. We're not there are physically we do have some people who are there on the ground, and we're going to talk to them as well. I'm afford to that, but we also have a bunch of a little stuff that we've seen that you guys are centered up.

There's also some new vision pro news, uh, and iphone falling out of a plane, a rabbit, A I T O, just a lot of stuff. So we're we're going to talk about all of that also. You had A A small adjustment correction from last week.

We are talking about to show me S U seven. Yeah we set IT at twelve kilometres arrange. But well, there was going to be a version expositions in the future that had a long range that is A A larger battery that had to .

clutters of range yeah and I get IT was actually a blog post talking about a potential different battery and a platform, I guess, rather than the specific as you seven and that I would theoretically have twelve hundred kilometres of C L T C range, which also everything we talked about last week, C, L, T, C, which is uh estimation by chinese standards, I believe and IT is apparently far worse.

Yeah for those who don't know there, when you look at the biology rating for a car, there is a rating based on the government agency in place. And in the us, we have the E, P A reading the environmental protection agency, I guess, right? I mean, just double check and make sure it's the same.

E, P, A. But in europe, they have wt p, and that's different and that gets a different rated range for the same exact car. And in china, they have C L T C. And apparently C L T C ranges are dramatically more generous. Um i'm sure it's not acquistions that they happily fed that number as the headlines everywhere. But just so you know um A C L T C range of five hundred miles will probably not be the same as E A way which is already five genre, which is also already hard to achieve. So that's a little question for last week and very .

minor correction. Max R P M is twenty seven thousand and thirty five thousand, and the maxim horsepower is six, three, nine, six eight.

Yeah, show me. Essentially didn't announce a car with a top ter kilometer battery option. They announced a car and then also announced a battery that could thear radically have a twelve or kilometres C.

L, T, C range.

Theoretically, IT says, not time to in the fine print. IT literally says, theoretically. So there you go.

the math, math.

That's what it's math. Good stuff, right? Where do you we jump in first? There's so many stories supposed bly talk about.

I kind of just want to talk about the iphone falling out of a plane and please sound the backyard. Yeah, that's one of my favorite stories and IT. So doesn't shock me somehow, really. Well, from a fall from a high place.

you're heard of terminal velocity.

Mark z cracked his phone sitting on the ground.

falling out of his pocket. If I fall .

out of a plane and .

land in grass.

IT won't meet you. Not a flat, small piece of metal. Yeah, your terminal .

velocity is a little different from the phone. Yeah, apparently there was a boeing plane that had this issue that was ignored for a couple of flights, and eventually one of the flights took off. So okay, the basic story is there is an elastic airlines flight with a specific model of boeing plane that was there was an issue that was being ignored, some of an article about some lights that the flight attentions and crew were sort of ignoring for a while and then one day they took off yes, so already a weird start. One day they took off and um they should have paid attention to the lives because the the seal of like the emergency door broke and the ords get ripped off the side of plant while they are flying not great. Thankfully no one was hurt, but some things worse sucked out of the plane as they were flying and landing and there is this, this whole map that you can look up of, where the plane was flying, and then where, underneath the plane, people found debris in their backyards, including a fully on still an airplane mode with half battery iphone that fell out the plane in my london zones backyard and was so fine I think there's the .

side of the road and the plug e was in someone's backyard not that that there's all that much, but um yeah someone found him on the side of the road while looking for the plug. Also, I kept seeing the word plugging, trying to figure IT out and it's basically, I guess, is what they call the temporary door or not temporary, but the emergency. So was a whole door that fell off.

Yeah there a all .

ah um wild and here someone found the phone half bat screen on, still work for the .

and I think no the charging cable still attached .

in the bottom like ripped ed off from the .

actual U S B C B B.

It's either a fourteen or fifteen they're not sure.

So be like me was .

pro I think said I was a dynamic island, so they .

couldn't tell if I was four or fifteen. We need answers. We need to get the full, the full answers. But yeah, there's a close up of the bottom of the lightning pool like ripped out of the bottom. Imagine I don't want to imagine IT, but imagine being on the plane, just scrolling through twitter or whatever they were doing, and then IT just gets sucked out of your hand out of the side of the plane.

honestly. Nightmare fuel. This is like my worst here.

This is definitely .

my worst fear. terrible.

We should have like a trigger warning before, like beginning of those.

That model of plane has been thoroughly investigated sense, and a bunch of flights have been cancelled. With that plane, they're going to tighten all.

We should be fine. You should be fine. No one was injured. No someone had their shirt ripped off .

amazingly so like no one was sitting in the seat right next the door and no one was pulled out of the plane. But that the fact see, i'm i'm actually given confidence by this is the fact that the dog can be pulled off the side of the plane and they're still gna land IT and everyone's fine when I was wing's wob ling in the storm of like.

yes, we're good, at least no one was sitting in the in the window and that they probably would got even bell.

I would have been here.

How often do you take over sea bet .

immediately .

after they like the sea razi story, a new phone story.

This is the drop test of all job test. yes.

I um and also just like definitely goes to show you that breaking your phone is so much look because you can drop your phone from two inches off the ground and shatter this or you can drop in from a plane and will be in r that the case manufacturer of whatever the phone is needs to find out did you see that stanly cup that was in the like car that caught on fire? And it's still like ice in IT? They made a huge marketing push with that. H this case manufacturer needs to hop on the same thing and be like, we're the case that fell out of a plane and works fine.

Super funny. I want to repeat the test. Throw IT out of a plane. Let me make your works.

The funniest thing about this, too, was that when they found the phone, so I found IT like their backyard or something, IT was still unlocked and on and hadn't died yet. Yeah.

I felt like six thousand feet. So whether like a screen out time was probably had like a screen on for like five minutes and just stayed on.

I think I think that they had any sort of screen lock on because I don't think they found IT right away.

I have a ten minute screen off on my phone. Yeah so if I leave my phone for ten minutes, the screen will stay down for ten minutes, right? So if he could have like a maybe five minutes screen now and we'll still stay on for the duration of that fall, yeah, it's for them, kid, for them, right?

A little bit vision pro news actually. So apple did announce the dates of vision pro priority and availability in the us. I believe it's february second for availability.

no. yeah. yeah. And then one is the prior or is january nineteen, nine, if you are just aching to spend three dogs A S S. And able to something also that sort of got um surfaced from that is there's new media of the vision pro and the head straps a little bit different from the way they did in the keino. There's essentially a new head strap yeah and I think I mean what's happening is apple announced the vision pro and shut all these videos and revealed what IT looks like so long ago that theyve actually made to IT before it's shipping, which is actually I think a good thing. Um and IT appears now that there's an article saying that they're going to ship with two different .

head straps in the box. Is there that first or not confirmed, but not the first thing be confirmed?

An article saying here is what comes in the box of this.

Oh, really okay, I see. I saw some mark tweed. He he was this new head straps says, old versus new head shop top design. The idea of the new trap is seemingly so your head doesn't want to fall off after half an hour of views. I think people will be surprised about the way in the initial use.

Yes, there's one band that is just a solo nit. The one that's like famously in all the videos were around. And there's the other is a two piece, which is one band behind your head and another particles over the top, your head. So it's a little less wait on your face.

And IT was originally marketed as you keep that thick nit one. And then there was another piece that went over the top. But this new version is as much smaller.

The straps are basically identical, thin. The one that goes behind looks like IT goes down further on the back of your head, assuming to create more leverage just to hope. And then also the one on top, which looks far different, and I know you said is to make you feel Better, which I think is that. But also, I have a really hard time believing that that original net, they didn't know IT was felt bad and was super heavy. Well, if I think that looks so much nicer that in marketing material.

I think apple new heavy said, I think. Aesthetically wanted a one peace band and said their engineering solution was this really big flexible thing on the back of your head. And IT still works, but that headset is heavy ah it's just really heavy for A V R headset because the metal and the extra screens and everything and I think they're finally just going, you know we need we needed two piece.

It's kind of a bummer because I really I really liked the mesh. The thick mesh part of the head said, yeah and I was comfortable but I definitely, after about half an hour of users, to feel really heavy. And two times that I used the vision pro, I had to adjust IT like on my face multiple times.

A counter reminds me of airpower s max airports. Max are heavier than any other headphones that I regularly use, and they have this pretty big band on the top that tries to sort of distribute the weight in, in a bigger way.

But after a while, because you're wearing heathy your head from you, just notice that I think it's going to be even more noticeable with this headset because as people have pointed out, the emerge factor of A V R headset is where you don't feel like you're wearing anything. You're just walk around in this new world. And if this weight is like pulling down on your face, like that's going to take away from emersion.

And if you're adJusting, like David said constantly, yes, that's kind of taking the defeating the whole um yeah, I don't think we are going to see this strap in any marketing no at all. The other one looks so much Better is so much more apple. I think the heads that looks more generic with the new double strap they're showing .

friend every .

time can tell I I think we'll show IT with the the old trap on and one just one yeah I think like all my I would doubt here's the question. Add an apple store if it's there which strapped doesn't have the other strap that looks really good on the shelf, everyone. But then people .

put on and notes in the box, you ll yeah.

But if you're just trying IT for your first time, is apple gonna have kind of like A V R E.

they are. They're letting you. They're doing like a first come first service based thing where you show up and get in line, get and test IT. Um HTC used to do this in microsoft store.

The first time I ever used to vive was in a microsoft store, and they had so many materials that they would use to clean the device over and over again. And I change the and change everything, every simple fence would use IT. Uh but it's definitely be interesting because um exactly one week from today, the day that you are all watching this on friday, this that's when this thing goes on pre order.

which is pretty wild. It's still such a strange um timeline is weird product release. Nobody no one has ever, as far as I can tell, shown footage anyone wearing IT outside martials I like you can order this without like they are won't be reviews, don't think like before you can order IT.

So more I double before you can order IT. So that's that's usually red flag for us when you yeah yeah goes live and there are no reviews and there is not even any footage of any human using. And outside of like the headquarters is .

kind that's kind of happening with is the iphone like that? Now though, we get first impressions, but we don't get reviews anymore. But but usually our review embargo is actually even with this.

there's no impressions. It's just like people talking about that time that got to use IT. No one gets to use camera. So it's just a little more than everything else.

Yeah yeah. Like it's also I can remember the last time a big tech product has like come out earlier than everyone expected like this they said early twenty twenty three but let's be real. We all can expect that to be like.

yeah IT was the latest possible that qualifies .

as early twenty yeah yeah the last .

minute the apple car playing, they promised in twenty two that they released more information by the end of twenty and twenty three and literally december twenty nine, they released like a shot like half completely photoshop job .

of a portrait with radio. I think we are people ever actually .

one just there's like a notion task .

I can do years to yeah .

so .

like this coming early everywhere, I don't think anyone expect very second that's wide crazy yeah can we tell the whole studios guys again, you're getting .

all of us right? You know, I am not sure exactly what i'm going to want to use. I mean, nobody knows I going to want to use vision pro most for, but I keep thinking what i'm going to default to doing the most is watching media like I had this vision of getting on an airplane vision and putting putting the headset on and just and watching a movie. Nobody talks me. No.

no, no, no, no, I want the full pictures.

So you.

I get on the plane, I sit down. I put the vision pro on, I put my, I put my.

It's the side of no idea .

you're I mean, so I sit down, I put on the headset, I put on my noise cancelling headphones, and I I am fully isolated from the world. And sit back, I sit back and I just like, I just like now, and I don't, I don't move .

you when .

this happens, you need to buy me the seat next year so I can record the start. Tapping you on the shoulder and your eyes lying up at them and watching them freak out.

Be interesting. I need to see that .

because the edit of .

east cancer headphones is all kind of filled into the headphones, right? Like the stones have that future where you put your hand over IT and IT like turn transparency on. The airports have a tn where you turn transparency on so you can theoretically leave your noise camelon headphones on, but still interact with the flight attended when they say you want some water, whatever. With the vir, with the headset, I say it's built into the headset, but it's also a really new thing for them to look at on with the eyes projecting out of the headset.

Easier to tell. But it's just also haven't had I .

say on on any of our demos that we've done yeah working on those. So either not working or they just don't want people to know what that looks like yet.

which I can wait. All markets comes out of the airplane bathroom, and his eyes are just wait up down the like. The dark, plain red I fly is I cannot wait.

Now the thing is, the battery life is not as long as a movie ours.

yeah. And I was also thinking, like, if plains weren't uncomfortable enough, I now want my neck being .

talked for an extra two hours on .

to one of the P. S. A vision s.

Just that case. Like parameter, i'm not sure, but i've never watched .

a high quality movie on a .

plane before. It's either sitting on an ipad on a tray with like the window from the passenger ross me reflecting off the movie or or just the the one built into the plane, which is not amazing. You imagine watching what I percent will be a fantastic quality movie with trade audio and the the three hour plane I just evaporate because you're just locked into the movie I did like the movie .

theater experience that we got to do like really feels like you're an an actual theater.

R that's one of my mom like selling point the accused, I think my and sit there sick.

Yeah.

the movie there, everyone else on the plane isn't staring at you.

Yeah, you can watch whatever movie .

you want to.

Mark, yeah.

The enormous question mark for this thing is, what is the developing ecosystem going to look like once at once IT comes out? I just want no because IT seems like apple still doesn't completely understand what the use case for this product is because they keep pushing. All the pushing is like look at your panorama as look at your spatial video, watch movies. But they don't they don't have any like native apps that they think are killer apps that make this worth having.

They seem like entertainment based, right? Like watch multiple N B A dreams time or like games, more stuff like that IT will be. They definitely want some sort of work apps to be associated with .

the on developers to make killing.

I still think this feels I still think the Price tag is up there because this feels more like developers are still buying IT. They don't the public can buy, but IT feels like a developer really expensive.

Don't think that they want a lot of people .

that I don't think they do.

This is purely a vive check off of, like the people I follow on, threats and everything. But there seems to be a lot of like developer excitement for this.

No, no, I think there is. I agree, I think there is. And that's what I think this is mostly for.

And the developers is worth thirty five hundred dollars. If you are getting in the door early of an apple V R M R, whatever you anna call IT. I think X R was .

IT with a new platform, or at least a new medium like this. That's where the excitement has to be. Is the developers first? Because nobody who isn't a developer really knows why they would spend thirty five hundred dollars on this thing if that only does what you can already do on your fun.

So we're trying to, yes, use apples building apps to give us a good idea of what IT will be good at all. It's an ice screen. Oh, I can view media going to look really high quality um but I need more to spend that much money on that so developers are like, oh, my apps.

I have all these great ideas. It's gna work. Well, let me just code for IT like, I hope that is where .

the excitement is. All about thirty five hundred dollars is the starting Price for the two hundred fifty moto, which is very small amount of.

I can't tell, I think, right? I think two fifty six are going to feel really small because how A V R game could be fifty gigs easily, right? But what are the Prices of the other? Is that a half terribly and terrible.

and there's no rumors of any other side that exactly.

I really feel like if you are paying thirty five hundred dollars, they should give a new a terrible of storage because .

so they just .

put IT in a little thing you put in your pocket and add another cord up to the time for story.

There's a little and .

just in a flash drive in the site.

ask for we put a dangle in and there is like a micros d cards slot like wiping out of the side yeah that's not what is gonna yeah imagine i'm .

very interested in because it's so heavy just how people are going to react to that. We were joking yesterday like they should have made IT at a plastic, but apple would never make IT at a plastic, and they'd sooner invent a new type of glass and metal that is later before that they use plastic on .

this hiroo practices there. Right now carbon would have icon .

their lips .

boats .

over thirty ely s over thirty five hundred. And I don't know, yes, anyway, okay, we ve got a lot to see a stuff to get into. So I think we want to leave some time for that.

So I think we should take a quit break and then come back to do s talk. But before the break, 我是 the trivia OK trivia。 So we've been talking about .

the apple vision pro um with the external battery pack is stated at having two to two and a half hours with an astra that as stress is testing consisted of full battery discharge while performing each of the following test. Video playback, internet browsing, spatial video capture and what popular apple first party APP more of the .

three .

options where there's four, there's video playback, internet browsing, spac video capture and what popular apple first party APP. This to me says, this is what they expect most people to be using this.

Have me to space. Some of videos. Okay, yeah. But wait, have to see if i'm OK h you ask the question later. I know there is a battery estimate.

Multiple battery estimates explain is we got two enough hours based on you doing these four things. exactly. I am in the first three.

Yes, what? Video playback browsing .

spac video capture.

And i'm surprised they special video capture. So I, that's why I pretty heavy.

And also then they said you could capture on your phone, after which makes way more sense.

Yeah, yeah. right? What you want to capture? Video.

no, I don't.

That would you doing?

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So as i've mentioned, this is C S week. So as we're recording, this is kind of the middle of C E. S.

week. And we've got some people out there at the showgirl itself. We're going to throw IT to our our on the floor correspond and ellis reporting from the field for us. Ellis, let us know what's going on. The showers.

Are mars I reporting live from the high sets booth of the floor of C S. Twenty four? As you could see, they appear to have set up some sort of wonderland IT.

Seems there's a, there's a giant orb of seemingly some sort of A L E D panel. We have the sweet island showing some term of a plastic recycling process. About one minute we're going to see the dancing car start over there. But IT seems that here in the high sense booth, uh, things are fantastic and wonderful. Back to you markets.

right? There are .

many orbs in last .

vegas there. There are many plays.

the dancing cars that .

was like the perfect and captain of, like, if you could stand in one pot at C, S, M, C, C.

S. Everywhere you turn, there's something else that you didn't expect to see.

I hope they went through the L. G. tunnel.

Yeah, there every year. Yeah.

that's yeah. I hope you too. This is else's. First, we send elsa riots, their first C, E, S. And they're .

perfect for C.

S. I certainly had a lot to explore.

I think they're thriving out there.

I think we've got a little .

bit more from our correspondent.

Let's pull up another one.

Mark z, i'm sitting here on the central floor of CS. I'm actually in a car, believe that are not made by TCL, known for their epic q LED televisions. I used to have one for years.

IT was great. This car, much like their television, appears to be great. I mean, look at this leg room. Just fantastic. You are going to find this in any vehicle other than maybe a real life limited ine.

Up the front we have a giant, giant wrap around OLED screen, two OLED screens with a noch OA apple right here. All in all, great product. I hope we get to see IT on the road, but all in all, just a fantastic product. And thank you for TCL for letting me sit in the back of this car, back, back to you.

OK for audio listeners. Car is a generous term there. IT was four seats of the sea show. four.

The thing about, the thing about C S. Is IT stands for consumer electronic show. But most of the things you see there aren't actually consumer electrical, and there's lots of cars stuff see.

So a whole whole you see like one of different cars and there's like a mobility section and the future of cars. And then once a while, you get an entire car that gets announcing. And apparently this year was there and they drove IT .

on stage of the P. S. Five control. Yeah, that happened.

That's a real thing that happened. Think about that in any other contact. They drove the pony car on stage with the P.

S. Five controller. If tesla did that, you be like, come on. Yeah, really. But that was happening. I suspect that wasn't a TCL car as much as it's a demo of how TCL technologies can be in a car. Yes, hey, we make screens. And guess where you need screens? New cars, so so else got a taste of a all those things.

Yes, he is kind of like a vibe rather than a product. maybe. Yes, here's a bunch of crazy stuff and maybe ten percent of IT later will be pretty cool when you can. Actually.

I just like that video, like perfectly and capsule ted, like car releases at sea. Yes, it's i'm sitting in this thing, so maybe it's real.

Most likely not. There's look at cool there. So many like cars out there that are just like a box with a million screens and seats facing each other and then there's like wheels outside.

I want someone to make a chart of the proportion of cars shown at CS whose seats do not face forward and how that has gone up over time. Yeah, we is second, you don't have to drive. So you could just .

look each other.

he just turn around and that's become a thing. Yeah right. I for one more segment last video.

hate us with IT else mark is i'm coming to you live once again, this time from the vinson expo hall at I am currently being giggled by one of doctor fuji and this appears to be a five and glute shaker. It's this is fantastic. I have to say this is the best products, both innovation.

Frankly, I think the government should be bonde's for people. It's it's a travesty that the rest of amErica hasn't bit exposed to. Doctor fuji is wonder if you would see.

Yes, I highly recommend stopped by this foot doctor. Food you would, would, would you like our? yeah.

Thank you so much. This is a lifestyle. C S. Great lifestyle.

IT in his health, right? Who is this about? Tiles by the vibration plate is actually vibration medicine. Nicola tesla says that does everything is energy, frequency and vibration. And when you figure out that everything is vibration, you figure out the keys to the thank you. I couldn't have .

sent .

in any Better myself. Thank you very much. Markets, i'm going to send you back to you in the studio.

So that .

reminds, yeah, C E S is. Yeah, C E S is a couple things. Yeah, C E S is a vibe check.

Like, hey, here's our new tech interested question, mark. Yeah, C S is also P, R. Here's our new thing.

Come on, right about IT. That's what you here for. Uh, and C S is a tradition.

tradition. The tradition part of IT is, yes, he.

for they know, know, I I plain .

every year, your formative C S experience. Yeah, he makes these vibrational pads that you stand on that are supposed to be good for.

You likes. There's been like decades of those kind of, I think IT used to be you stood and there's a band like around your back and you would kind of shake you and this is now like .

more of A A yeah core training the best. She's that, you know okay, you know unna thousand miles a couple weekends ago and I walked five this like random like street vender and he had a bunch of rings that he probably like book from china and imported and sold to a lot of people. But this guy walked.

He's looking at me like, you like that ring? He's like, yeah, my daughter likes purple. IT is like, you know why you like that ring and he's like, well, it's purple, my daughter and he's like, it's made of anatha.

You know what anatha does? He is like what he says amazon has the same vibrational frequency as your body is so when you're touching amazes, you're touching yourself. And I was like, yeah, are I doctor food?

You're and you're on to something there, man. Love that. Yeah you know when you don't have to get fd approval, you can just do whatever sometimes yeah that's true.

Look see yes is um it's full of all kinds of wonders. I kind of though feel like we've sort of SAT back purch back a little bit and seen a lot of the the E S. Stuff from a far obviously, these guys have been in a thick of IT, and that's what we've just witness ness.

And I love that. But i'm curious what you guys have seen that you think is genuinely actually some of the best stuff from C. S, like good stuff from .

c yeah it's easy to make fun of cees. And that was the C, E S. C, E, S.

But there is diamonds in the rough out there that exactly finding them as tough, we send people to find them for us this year or the internet. Um but I think we asked everyone to pick something they saw that was announcement from C. S.

Wants to go first. I can go. Yeah, do you go? So razor every year has something that is usually in the same exact category.

It's an interesting idea that you're convince they will never ship, but you're like, I I consate raiser shipping this. And this year they did IT again. They call the project S R. This year. Uh, and if you just go to a quick google search for a razor project, aster is described as an H D haptics gaming cushion.

You put this on your gaming chair, you connect IT to your computer and IT with super low latency can deliver some of the effects of what you're feeling in the game through the chair, the back, the seat, the lower back, the whole thing, you're playing a shooting game, allegedly. This is coming from a reviewer from tom's hardware. This is, allegedly, you feel like you got hit by the gun, like you feel the game also.

you can only get shot the back.

You can only get shot the back this is a very valid point, Andrew, to ignore the you put imagine like that you've been belief you have seen the there's like sofas that .

you put you .

put yeah image you I making fun of .

IT but I actually think one, this is the least ridiculous thing readers like shona see yes, remember project Linda, which again was really cool, but I don't think was ever going to ship. That was the phone that acted as the track back in the shell for a lap. I was awesome.

And I think samsung and deck should do something like that ah because I actually think that's a really good idea. But this was really sick like racing like I racing game where I think we all people build all sorts of racing simulators. If this is a couple hundred box, you get a bunch of car fuel in a racing simulator. If you're putting on the racing chair or the razor chair already like a racing, yeah, see you throw steering wheel and some pettings on this. And like, actually this is pretty me and very reason.

Do you are actually in the reality?

I think think .

this can get released. Allegedly there's an S D K because as a now when you're doing that like uh, sub refer under the couch thing is just taking the speakers audio already and choosing which frequencies to send where. So if you're if there's some some base in the movie or watching, then it's like I will put that your seat.

If you're playing a game and there's a gunshot, maybe that specific frequency is like picked up by the software. But if you're working with the the developer of the game itself with an SDK, they can choose exactly what to send where. So if you're doing a driving game, instead of just relying on the engine sound from the speakers, maybe the developer of the game can send the track bumps to your chair. Yeah, which will be sick ool. So I have some potential .

and also RGB this picture shows R G this only one photo I see with RGB and considering all the other reasons don't actually show just is like a Green mining. I kind of think it's not but I hope they make an RGB version um but .

the reason I think this yeah .

OK OK I mean it's rather there is not A R the reason the ships is because ultimately it's a high quality massage chair, pet specially targets and no exactly is a very reasonable product.

Yeah in previous years they had a they a try screen laptop that got famous. They got so en yeah that was really funny.

They had that monitor one year that ah forget ever got released. But I was I did that was like early on of the like four k higher, fresher y or like crazy higher, fresher Y. I like .

multiple tables going into to achieve here.

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I really like, did you see the vin fast pickup truck? I saw picture of IT. I think he looks really cool.

我 觉 i mean， vindice has been making a lot of cars. They released a pickup truck. And also this little S U V, that's like a two door S U V. Basically looks like if you took a bruno sport, took the back doors, often just push the trunk back up yes um but I like the truck because I just looks nice IT looks about the size of a timea.

And you remember when the silver to E V came out and I know other trucks i've done this, but I had like a can ARM an opening so if you were sliding like wood through the back bet of the truck and could come into kind of the cab, this Venus has the entire back sea able to fall down and completely open up to the back into the truck. So yeah, not just a little botton portion of the entire party. So I think that's awesome and gives you a bunch of actual space. Um I think looks really cool. I like the size of its its smaller than the one fifty and the interior looks very cy.

yes that I don't know .

enough hard time believing that what that will be or IT, is this is going to be way more expensive than that needs to be.

right? everything. This is a concept truck. Announce that. see? yes.

So my question is, if when fast is actually going to make a pickup truck like this, how much of IT will end up in the actual trip? right? I think the design could.

But this concept also has like the, is this the my back doors, the suicide doors, what is what he call the back door opens backwards. So you get the yeah doors opening like that. They open from the same point from the same point direction. I don't think that makes IT of truck not a good idea. Uh, I hope that the feature you are talking about with the the I don't know what is he hasn't the bed something else?

It's not the tail get. It's like the tail gates all the way in the back where opens the of the work.

But this is where the bed in the back of the I would truck, uh, I think the interior looks very much more like a Normal truck than this.

The funny thing is that I think of this truck as the concept was turned down twenty five percent, I would like a Better. And so that's why I cool.

see?

no. But when IT sells later, if the interview less flashy, if the exterior was probably a little more just Normal and then it's still have features like that, I think this is a all truck.

There's not a lot of in fast cars in the U. S.

But I think no wanting .

on sort of actually breaking out and shipping him here. yes.

So I two I have one that is very expensive and mayor made on even ship one that is already shipping, which is pretty cool. So many one um L G signature OLED T A every year there is a there is a lot of really interesting TV tech at ce. Uh a lot of IT doesn't make IT out of CS like 3d tvs， that tradition worthing temporarily.

And then everyone realized for them this is very interesting and almost kind of looks like a fish tank, like a very nice little fish tank. But basically IT has uh the the transparent TV portion in the middle. And because of this, with no black film on the back, you're able to give these like really cool 3d effects that may that look like there's like a volume metric type display inside of the TV have a lot of interesting demos， I think that I could make for a very interesting piece of art riots.

It's sort of like a different version of the samsung frame TV that turn into static art. This is like moving art. L. G.

Had a different booth, or like A A side room filled with different displays. And they were using something similar to this as like a storefront window that was able to do like transparent video. Yeah so like you could make the your store.

Pop a little more. And I think that was really cool. This looks like that bundle down into like an an interior consumer gadget.

IT is interesting because a lot of the time that L G stuff does eventually ship, like the ruble TV did eventually ship. You can buy IT. It's super frequent, expensive.

This will probably super be frequently of the ships, but you can turn into a regular TV when you do. Basically, this black film lifts up in the back, which gives IT contrast. They're actually able to see what you're watching IT.

Dos IT doesn't look as good as a regular T V. When he has the black film up, but it's like possible. So I think it's more for people that want to have an r peace in their house and that can also watch things.

And they are I mean, I can see this in businesses also as just like cause display units. I mean, yeah, L G is the one who I think would there are the ones who at C, E, S, they put crazy stuff out. And then I like that that's party actually gna come out yeah might not celebrate g expense is not .

impress is another thing that is actually gonna ship like immediately called the audio technique. H T H T W X seven. They are a pair of earbuds and they're not that different regular earbuds except they have a feature built that can basically play relaxing music and it's like built into the headphones.

And I know this seems like kim ki, and you could just go on your phone and play the music from like something, whatever. But I listen to like nature soundscape music when i'm writing, and I like the ability to just like poppies and and just press them and immediately have a play would be kind of nice. I finds ready some pretty good. So I mean, yeah.

there's already a two hundred dollar audio technical pair, truly wireless year, but which is probably worth IT already. How do technical makes great stuff and two hundred boxes, pretty standard Price for stuff like this.

So high technology or but .

if you want to send A R will be I not opposed.

yes. So I just think that's fine. I what is kind of nice is when technology comes out that has very low key updates that was kind of quality of life improvements. Most of the is clearly just dislike.

We're reinventing this and IT probably won't work and people probably won't buy IT, but it's always nice when they're just like we added this kind of nice quality of life future to a thing that you are add now traditionally, that makes for a little bit more of a boring ce ago. A few years ago, the whole theme of ce was we add A I A next to your fridge. We added IT a exit to your microwave or your clock.

But um obviously this year it's A I stuff which will will get into in a little Better gp t toaster. Yes, be custer. yeah. I think this we need.

I I wish I could sleep with your buds in because I think you would be awesome to just have your buds in and just like hit the button and go to sleep with relaxing sounds, there are the both sleep buds that .

they don't make anymore, I don't think.

but I just can't sleep with things sticking in my years. Can you not just like a White noise machine? Yes, everyone I hear sounds like problem.

Yeah, they can put your birds.

I just go to fan, yeah. Okay, that's A T H T W X seven.

Please start naming .

the name longer. A H, and fifty was the same number of characters but easier to say yeah A T H T A T H T W X seven is it's getting a little hard to say yeah not sure why are you using all those letters but okay yeah um I think those are good pics also new P, S, five colors. Lumine was the monopoly .

systems. It's like a low profile keyboard from I think that how you pronounced right. I mention this just like off hand to Andrew that I want to do this. And he kindly gave me a paragraph for a two .

of who expects .

to say and mention so comparison's and everything .

company that already really popular in the mechanical keyboard space. I have a couple of theirs. Um they like started they have super super premium like five hundred plus dollar keyboards.

Last year they released more like a two hundred dollar yy board, but mechanical and stock. And now this is the low profile stuff because we're seeing a lot more with the popularity of the magic keyboard. I think a lot of keyboard companies are like people like low profile, but let's make them nice sis switch like key ron, newly and already and they're really nice. And this is model .

key going into that interesting new one.

I saw that thing pretty want really nice IT looks like outer keyboard. No there's a comment called work louder that's doing this low profile keyword accept its um why can I remember the name something linear where all the keys rather than staggered or uh or the linear I think it's called all the keys are like in the same row which IT looks cool. It's very out there as like screens and knobs and everything and just quickly I looked again some of the workouts or the linear some of them is regular .

layout um but .

all this is similar to that, but in a standard layout that people actually understand, but more little, more low key um I don't you see a picture? Yeah I think that looks really good. It's in silver n black wireless, bluetooth and two point four donal silent or tactile, which tions and available make year.

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I I wish I got to see if they invited us over to see that, but we didn't go saying that.

Well, we should do another trivia. And then after the break, we're gona talk about that rabbit r one A I heard a, which we have a lot of thoughts about and we will get into soon. question.

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guys.

Always have a trivial question, alright. So we spoke a lot about cars on this episode so far. But one thing I found while looking up random facts about cars, is that there are many different types of horsepower. Which of these isn't a real type of horsepower, a drop r horsepower, b water wheel horsepower, c electric horsepower or d boiler horsepower? I think of .

the answer interesting.

I don't think .

i've got a random guess because I forgot everything he's had already. But if I can put a water down, yeah, right. What do that after the break? We are that.

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Alright, welcome back. We have one more thing to talk about. Surprisingly, the entire last section, the pod we ve, we've dedicated as one thing because it's capture our attention so impressively that we have so many thoughts about IT.

Now, IT was initially like teased on social media. This is, I say it's called the the rabbit, right? So this A I device assistant thing, I think I B R one. Yeah, sorry, the companies called rabbit and we didn't know what I was called, but IT was some rabbit AI thing. And now we know it's called the rabbit r one.

which is like rabbit .

rabbit one like, yeah the essential phone P H one phone P H yes, r one.

The ship and the .

vision .

pro is an r one .

m two plus r one .

that's about the rabbit are one. And what the thing is, is IT is a piece of hardware that has an ai built into IT that can do lots of things based on natural language input, lots of helpful things, lots of things that Normally take you a bunch of taps on a smart phone, lots of things that you might want to perform on a regular basis. IT has a microphones that has a speaker that has a camera bilton and has a little screen on the front.

And it's a little rabid AI that does obvious things for you. Now my first exposure to IT, and I think years was two, was a video of a bunch of people holding a blurred item because I wasn't revealed yet giving IT prompts. I want to actually play that video so you guys can hear some of the insane things that I was asking this thing to do.

Or do me in uber and find me a good podcast to pass the time, oh, and tell everybody that I might be laid. Thousand delicious.

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so I get the idea. It's very focused on natural language input. And then just a super helpful thing that Carries out the task for you. Now I ve been thinking about like A I assistance so that lately, just because like we know google assistant onna get Better, we're waiting for you to get Better. We already know election and suffered getting Better.

And I think the idea that we want them to be able to be good at is everything a human assistant would be good at, right? Because most people don't have a personal assistance. So if your phone can be as helpful as possible, and you can just tell what to do, and I can do IT, that would be the ideal solution.

But they have never quite gotten there. You have to speak in a certain way. When you wake up and talk to relax, you have to say, um tell me what the weather is in this city for this day. A lot of things have to be specific about and know how to prompt IT in order to get IT to do exactly what you want yeah a lot of other things you just straight up can't quite due.

And so the idea behind why I think people are so compelled by this is wouldn't be cool if I could just talk to me like a human and I could just figure out what to do with AI and do IT. And I think that's super cool. I also think it's super difficult. And so i'm curious how well this thing is actually going to work in real life.

And now now we have a twenty five minute keynote with a whole bunch more examples and its it's very much, you know apple style Steve jobs asked, like black background cofounder on the screen telling me smart phones or seven hundred dollars and you have to tap the screen eight times to call uber the thing we just made its two hundred dollars and you just tell to call uga n IT does IT for you and the the proposed solutions to all the problems makes perfect sense. I'm just very interested and probably a little skeptical about how good I will be at doing these things without just turning into a phone. So curious what you guys thought when you saw the keynote and the announcements and what this rabbit A I could actually be in maybe best case this is worst case.

So the promo video that you showed um especially because they were not showing the actual device and showing how you are going to interact with the in a touch way IT was kind of funny because he just has call me in uber SHE doesn't say where which is kind of a problem that SHE should be saying coming over home yeah or something like that and I just .

say at the end he says until everyone i'm going to be but I can imagine telling, tell everyone like contact list I am going to be here and I think .

so that he then I think the believers would say it's got to be context aware. IT knows where you are and IT knows that you just finish some appointment and IT knows you're going to go home. So when you say Tommy and uber IT knows your location from GPS and it's gonna to call you in uber home and hofus ly gets that right, I want IT says, tell everyone i'm going to be late. IT knows about your next appointment at home and IT knows who's there and so he knows to tell like it's going to hopefully process all of this stuff and all of this context and get IT right. Hopefully IT just seems like so many things that have to get .

yeah they call this a large action model because with largest language models, uh, the foundation of that is a transformer. In the best part about a transformer is that a understands context awards. So you don't have to use like extremely specific words to trigger the assistance in the right way and interactive within the right way. And if you've ever, like, had someone who's not super text savy tried to interact with a virtual assistance, usually IT says, sorry, I don't understand, because they don't use the right trigger word exactly. So theoretically, the best part of A A large language model that you would interact with with your voice is that you could basically say anything, and then I would be able to do IT.

And now the next p of that is what rabbits trying to do here where you say things to IT IT understands the context of what you're saying and you can act on those context clues yeah um that's clearly a very big leap forward because right now all you can really do with these large language models is like talk to an assistant and have a chat back to you. So actually being able to interact with your apps is very interesting. And the reason that in the commercial they have her go coming move oh and um like they had to do that on purpose because IT shows you that this is the way that humans actually interact with each other and you don't have to use like very specific towards to make IT work the way that you plug in your apps is really interesting. The whole set up yeah you can log in so IT has a little LCD screen that kind looks like a little looks like um .

what is the the play the play is made by any and it's bright or and it's got the swivel camera all beautiful, beautiful. It's beautiful. But IT is the size of a phone yeah yeah well.

not A H so yeah, it's like a galaxy zy flip.

It's big enough to be like like the human main pin. Whole thing was that it's like a small thing that contest to you this A I hardware is like it's not your phone, but you're not specifically that this is not getting rid of your phone, but is still as a phone issue sized objects that you're Carrying around.

probably .

exactly how you're Carrying your phone around.

right and more .

yeah yeah it's now yeah I mean, I have to give them some um credit like there are things about this that actually kind of surprised me. That said, okay, that makes a lot of sense. Ah he kept mentioning that the phone was supposed to be a thing that saved you time but actually at this point.

it's become a thing that just distract you have so many thought on yeah I mean.

I don't think phones are the problem. I think that addictive apps are the problem. And things things like social media apps and may be either just using like produce screen time thing or not having your social media s on your phone could do this.

But the big question here is like, do you need a dedicated harder device? Or could this one be an APP or two won? Most of these features probably get added to google system in syria within the in .

the next year. Yeah he was very adamant about saying that apps like we've had business ecosystem that is APP focused and that using apps always consists of multiple touches and different dropped down manuals and also do different things where you to speak. What you want to do is much easier to do that than to know exactly how to use.

Every single apple kind of feels like, you know, our generation and the generation under us is very good at controlling apps. yes. So it's one of those weird things where this sounds like it's trying to we talk mutio times before about large language models being great as assistance because then people can talk with Normal words.

And like somebody trouble shooting, something doesn't need to call us, they can just ask. Normally this that kind of seems like they what they're pointing to, but it's also a new technology that yeah, I don't know, but yeah, there's a lot there. So a lot of people .

were saying if this wasn't APP, nobody would care about IT. So they had to make IT both the hardware product, and they had to make IT really cute and fun. And that's why they got teenage engineering involved, which makes sense.

I mean, they got I was looking into this company. They secured their series a funding round in october two months ago, series here three months ago, they secured their series bee funding round in december one month ago. So this is an an extremely new company that's breaking into the scene is really, really fast. It's like we were joking yeah it's like literally the opposite .

of man or human like hype .

there for two years, kind of pivots the point of their products because they were making IT before a like chapt van came out and then they added AI to all their stuff afterwards yeah ah whether this is like it's two hundred dollars versus six hundred dollars, no supt, no subscription required, although he does take a sim card tray. So if you want IT have access to uh stuff all the time, you do have to pay for another solution plan which sucks or I guess you could tell them off of your phone or wifi more often but you're gonna to be able to use that whenever, wherever you so the human .

pen is also a projector on your hand, which is a whole bunch buyer about .

the human A I pen is the rabbit A S entire thing is there are too many taps involved to do something on your phone. And the human a iphone takes even more to do a single test.

That's fair OK. So I I have a bunch of things to talk about. I think the first part is the part where apps take too many taps is debated.

I think if you use the example of calling uber, for example, yes, there are a bunch of different apps you can use to call a ride, to go somewhere or to do anything and the set of process. What we are going to touch on is you just connect your rabbit to all of your counts. You are spotify, your uber, your amazon, your ebay, everything.

So he just knows what the a where to go to do every task. So you need to call uber on your phone that open up your phone, open the uber APP tell you where you want to go, hit confirm, hit uber acx confirm. Yes, I want to go there and IT goes to the GPS location of your phone.

Maybe it's five taps to something I don't know. And the idea with this best case scenario is you open IT up and you just save, call me a neuber home and it's it's push to talk so it's not listened all the time. It's nice you don't need a special key work.

You just talk to like a human call me uber home. And IT knows, based on your GPS location, where you are, where home is. And I just finds an uber, you just say, confirm once.

Singer, good. So I saved you taps. And IT saved you thought, because you just talk to you in a natural way.

But what are the chances uber just improves their APP or google assistant improves with some A P. I plugs to the point in two months, you can do exactly what raby can do. Extremely high train.

I think that's very likely. yeah. So that was the first thing I came to mind.

But then the second thing is multimedia. I still really cool. They did this demo of, like you pointed out, a fridge. And hey, what can I make with these vegetables? And I stacked up perfectly.

the the perfect fridge that only uses the front four inches of the each shelf.

Nothing, nothing, everything in the front. Where can I make with the and eggs and they made in, you can make, you can always make an arrest me. Yes, yeah.

But the multimodal A I thing is still really fascinating because I think in general, that's where are going and prompt engineering has become less and less of a skill and modest. Can we make IT as easy as possible for the for the user to just talk to IT like Normal and get what they want out of IT? I think it's all great. I just think this could be if I could have a fifty dollar APP, I think you're right and what have got less attention but I would have been just as useful. I just open up the rabbit APP and just say.

come uber and I came out before like google assistant was any good and IT was way Better than google assistant for the time and then eventually I just kind of got worse and worse because I was Better at this context clues um and then eventually IT lost relevance yeah the big players got into IT and when I see this.

I see like this is a small device that has a camera and some processing power. IT has a two point to heart media that processor of memory, one hundred twenty years of storage. If I could find something that you still to pull out of your pocket and you still have your phone, that the camera, if i'm trying to think of that internal components, that with Better specs, a Better camera, Better screen that I already taking out of my pocket, I do all of, if IT had an APP to tell you to do all of this.

if this, this is more, if they just update the existing assistance. The thing like google, google made a big push, like twenty twenty one, where they added these API plus four apps, so that you could you think with google assistant, I remember they sent me, they sent me. There was like self lacing nike training shoes, along with, like my fitness power like thing, because they launched ed, this plugin with my fitness power.

You can say, hag, add this to my punish pile and ages does IT right? So they already have those kind of things. But the the missing link right there was the the Better natural language processing through transfer MERS, which will get added to google assist like within a year yeah .

this like and this isn't to take away from some of the impressive things that the software wise and A I wise like the A L A M verses they show pretty briefly. I wish to explain a little more, but just kind of like how I can take action in different apps and how it's connected to that. And then also that they did they like watch me do this, my journey, and discard, which is really cool. You can train IT, but all of that could be an APP on Better hardware that you own already. Because if it's not replacing a phone, this can make phone calls as far as I can tell.

And it's weird calling .

IT not a phone because this is of a phone.

This is a different phone.

Yeah that's not an Operating system, which is what they were like, very adamant. Remember.

only got new launches every couple months. This would have been a launch, an android phone if just a rabid launcher, and you open IT up. And this just a full screen rabbit, which is what this is, a full screen rabbit. And you talk to a rabbit, you're like, comin uber. And the rabbit bounces a few times and it's like, I did IT yeah, I use I use the uber APP behind you and I called you a eubagis ah and now talking on a que you want me to try and call I just want to see a good luis alf how close is good lisses and get to just doing what this does call me in uber home.

Call me in uber to new ork airport. You'd like me to call you by the name in neuber to newer careful clearly .

the context clears .

are not i'm so good. You was left because I just thought .

he was right and I was .

about to IT. Yes, all me, all me. You, hi. I am goog.

okay, so that did not work.

Yeah OK way. Regarding the r one, I do have two things I want to say. Yeah, one, last year, which was unlike two weeks ago or three weeks ago, I said that the trend of twenty twenty four was going to be colorful things.

And here we are. It's like a right part.

IT looks great.

The second thing is, I feel like .

just with this and all A I stuff in general, IT assumes a level of trust that I don't have like my phone right now, like I will call in uber and still look at the map and make sure this guy is coming to me. I just for .

if your level of trust is in privacy thing, that's what I first thought. Well, okay, that's different. What your most thing .

is exit also, privacy was a whole other thing. But I just mean like, well, this thing work, yes, because people don't even their technology to do the thing they're doing.

I also think we have a natural tendency to shop a little bit yeah like yes, Colin, uber is fine if you are not Price sensitive to the ride yeah just like get me home, I don't care and make IT in uber. But some people also have lived and they will check both and they had this whole segment in the thing or IT was like, plan me a trip of the vacation to london, let me see some cool sites and let me be your relax schedule. And it's like, I I D ve got your flights, your hotel and everything I like you trust, don't want to just go to the first option. I rather shop and I think that's a nal.

And if you were able to just say, call me a car home, make IT the cheapest option. I don't care about comfort and I was able to search a lift and uber and then figure out which .

was cheaper and then call IT then uber home. Ah there's a lot of stuff shopping around. You can want to find that baLance an airplane I would never adjust to just be like get me a flat there. It's like it's because all sit together. It's like how we sitting in the back of the in the cheapest way and I have no Carry .

on the luggage like yeah the emergency door .

yeah right next to the plug.

my phone. Very interesting thing about this product is that IT is a universal kind of it's a universal product that can access any APP and do anything theoretically. So we talked a little bit about this earlier, but there's this training mode where effectively ah it's on your computer is like a web based portal and you show IT a website that you're trying to interact with or like a service that you're trying to interact with and you're basically training the AI what IT means to interact with that service in the way that you would interact with IT. yeah.

And then once you're done training IT, theoretically you can just use prompts on your phone, on phone yes, maybe in the future on your phone, on the r one, and it's able to kind of go through that process for you. So in the demo that they played in the introduction, video showed him like creating an image through mid journey, through discord. And IT recorded the session. And then when he says, create this thing, IT just pulls up the images on his rabbit.

the O I C O. It's like a microbe. So in the off chance that one of the twenty apps that they support of the bad isn't one of the things spot and apple music. And there's a song gone to listen to on sound cloud.

Well, then you have to train IT for sound cloud, right? Do the U I on the computer make sure that knows what IT means to go to sound cloud, to look for something? And then when you say r one played with that song from last night on sound cloud, IT will know what that means and how to do. IT, yeah.

because you trained IT. I do like that is a concept because google, in june of twenty twenty three, released google assistance for developers where developers can plug into the google assistance so that you can have an open API or you can like, have IT access your happen to different actions. But APP developers are famously like, this happens all the time.

Razor will release some crazy new R, G B A P, I, and nobody uses IT in their game with their application. They have a couple of partners. They do IT at launch and nobody else does IT.

So being able to theoretically access anything by the training yourself is a very cool concept. yeah. Now this is going to be hilarious to see how this actually works in real life. Because if you train something to do IT and then you're out and you have you need IT to be able to do that, and then IT just doesn't work, then you've got to plot your phone.

And that's a problem of the U. I. Changes on the site. Something changes like this.

One thing I know about macros is that you spend forty five minutes setting IT up, and then the next week, the website weeks, something a little and background of breaks, everything happens. So yeah, yeah. Or the web pages .

scroll down by twenty five percent, and so IT clicks on the wrong thing.

I will say that feature is the reason I was in my car for like an hour and I was debating buying if so long think feature could be sick.

I think kind of two ways I see this going in. And one is this turns into an APP on your phone, and I think this company gets bought out and some other company uses IT in that. So I think that's the the way IT goes.

Where makes a ton of money the way goes with people by this are hardware, are product, is using the learning thing by figuring out very specific tasks to do that makes their workflow a little easier because I don't think two hundred dollars is the worst Price. The the product looks cool. And if you can figure out to some very specific thing that you nail every time I don't brought up, remember the spotify car play thing that was like, yeah really dumb and no one really wanted IT.

Then people finding ways to like, attached to their computer, yes, side screen, like, I think people are gone to find some like hacky really cool methods using the learning manual or module. And this just being a cool looking device. Yeah, some people going to do some cool stuff.

This is the company that actually should have a uh, story. You can upload your actions that that other people can just know because that would be really cool of people could just train IT for you.

And the great ball down my question was also gonna be, does this live on the hardware? Like what happens if I buy this thing? I teach you a bunch of different macros i'm doing the and in a year to the company was out.

But then what does IT still work? Do I need to? Is that just a pretty paper weights at that point? Like it's two hundred dollars.

which is not a small amount of money. But I think when you compare IT to a like the human A I pen .

and .

which is directly they did .

on screen yeah yeah it's that's a valid question. I don't know if that's planned. You know, the steam deck, stream deck, stream a stream deck with the buttons button, and you can, you can map those button a tt t. We are new.

I press about in, and the new holders, papa moment, that top perfect file structure, all that stuff. But they're certain things also that I do that with a visual component like this would be super cool. yes. And i'm wondering if this would work.

if that teaching process can can actually work for people. People are gona love IT just for that one. And I think that awesome people will spend two interrupts for that, uh, at at the whole pocket yeah the button. Learn from me editing this episode and the next be. And if that the thing that most people time IT is fascinating, see if I can pull off any these other really broad tasks.

I think there's an analogy to like the palm phone with this device because they don't want IT to be they don't want you to replace your phone, he says yet, but IT can do almost everything that you found can do. I don't think you can do messaging.

If you can do messaging or calls, then that's the problem with that, I think is really can't. So like the one start enter up a little, but you can. But like the one thing about the humane pen that i'll give IT credit for is like IT still has that connectivity.

So like you, I think they're trying to save, throw your phone in your backpack like the pump, get you don't need all the things on your phone when you're walking around. You can get some basic things out of a small thing on your but this is like you still need your phone in your pocket because there is still gonna how even ordering a new, you may need to pull your phone out to know what address you're going to. So now you're looking at your phone and and speaking into a thing in your other hand.

This has a screen though, and I can probably show you.

what can you like search up? I guess you could say, hey, look in my email for this address. I to be so.

yeah, yeah, yeah.

This assumes there is a digital trail for everything. Like, what if you just told me about this new pizza place down the block and go take me to and it's you talking .

about to remember, everything here sees if it's your email, your calendar, everything is fair to be full context, where IT needs the context of all the things of humanism.

They never mention phone calls, your text messages, right? I guess I said.

I think that they tell people.

remember someone talking about that .

then this is just a phone.

a smaller, a smaller, cheaper, less powerful phone with much Better natural language and a much worse screen camera.

You'd be willing to try to use this as .

my form a week. Is I like the idea. If this idea actually got built out and people found you and a and and people could use IT, I would like a premium version of this because this is like a cheap plastic and be kind of called to .

have like an OLED made of metal. I'm shocked IT .

looks like an LCD definitely love.

And I honestly thought you were joking, and you are just going to be stuff. I literally thought you were just joking when you were saying that because I thought I just a phone if I am just.

yeah I mean.

I might just .

speak coping right if I could, if I just like onna, go to the city to have drinks with my friends and all I need to do is to be able till, I mean, I guess I used like apple payer android pay to be able to, google pay to be able to.

It's now I wanted like pulling like paid as cash year five, seventy five and then you like called .

the next yeah okay, that's the other problem. That's the other major problem is that everything is voice based ah. There's a huge problem. They do have a keyboard option you can type and I think yeah and .

you to press on IT so is touching because .

you have to confront the very small keyboard yeah way. And so having to talk everything that you want to do when you're around other people is very frustrating. A lot of talking it's a lot of talking and listening yeah but assumes like IT basically assumes no social media and no messaging um and the messaging part is the thing that is gonna be difficult.

So supposed able to tell your friends are going to be late, but if one of your friends applies.

tell everyone, IT will probably get out loud.

and then also show IT on screen. Yeah, maybe. But does IT how would they reply if this is a phone number? A, oh, it's number. You could be a .

data only sim, but maybe IT. Then you that was not really detail, is a android. Are you Green bubble?

Probably now you can teach you be a .

blue bubble. They specifically, actually, they made like a slide beeper in the cano, which I think was a slighter beeper. They said we're not they said we're not taking advantage.

tricking their infrastructure.

tricking other .

companies infrastructure like they are, taking shots at little how recently all this came together. Reason to slides are the funny thing yeah yeah was yeah I know IT seems actually fairly built out, uh, the product, considering they only got funding in october, but is very .

interesting. I mean, we ve been talking .

about IT for like twenty minutes, like mission .

accomplished ter as that some people who are basically taggin being like you gotta review this.

This is interesting. The thing is, if google assistant adds this end or theory could just do this and then you just don't need another product. I don't want to charge another thing.

You know, that's the main thing for me. IT only lasted a dad. I don't want to charge another thing, and I don't want to pay for another solution plan just to .

have another device to give them credit. It's spent a long time since serious got meaningfully Better, yes, but I fully agree. IT feels like google assistant is on the door step of doing a one. Yes.

this is happening. I O, we're going to see this product launch has google and be orange, an orange mode.

This feels like the prime question of product or feature.

Yes, I think another person, it's like it's close, close.

close house is the hard to house that's so .

mean a perform .

feature.

The thing is, is I actually think there's going to be a really cool like modern community that does some really cool things. yes.

That I think that will be the best part yeah right now what you're looking for as a company with by hundreds of millions of dollars and capital funding. But I think it's very .

smart of them to make IT out of really cheap materials for a relatively affordable Price because it's an untested kind of products that they only know people want to yet if I will work. And so if they can get IT in more people's hands and then the ecosystem gets built out, then maybe they turn into a company where they can make more premium versions of this stuff for as humane is going, like alter premium. We spent a ton of R N D money on the projector and the rabbit still .

looks Better than IT. Yeah, although it's there are still a bit different. There obviously are A I hardware that are directly competing with each other, although yeah one as a screen, one as a projector, ones a pen, ones a half of a phone. I don't I have a question.

do you think the rabbit are one runs android?

Think most definitely right? yes.

yeah.

yeah. So that is a Green bub .

skin bubble but it's like what yeah definitely, almost definitely. But would you have to do IT from an anner? Would you rather Green? But so many things that comes out IT comes out on easter.

I'm going to try to review IT. I want to try IT, and I want to try every single process was in the commercial and see exactly what IT does.

Can I all my accounts and just IT and .

they listen to this?

I want to give a chance for you to work well. You be awesome.

I want to try IT for sure.

I am delighted by the idea I just there so many on.

That's a great way of putting IT. If the idea is so delightful, I love for you to be true.

I've just have a hard time believing going to .

be retired to the similar to the then fast pickup trick. Ce, i'm delightful by the idea. Yeah.

we'll see how to say that the two hundred other Price tag makes all of these questions far more people yeah.

this was like eight hundred dollars everyone would laugh at ah and no one would but yeah.

well, we shall see. We shall see. We leave IT. If that I feel like we learn a lot more. Obviously, pot comes out.

You'll all see probably some more people testing some videos. See, maybe will keeping all of that. But that's basically IT for what we wanted talk about this week. Yeah which means that we should .

tied up for trivia tribe. So quick update on the score markets with twenty, Andrew with fourteen, David with one to let Carry the one. Okay, yes.

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just Carry the one twenty.

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I don't know if you want to say, but do you want to say a special thing that happened?

I was on vacation, and I got engaged to my lovely girlfriend, Jessica.

My girlfriend IT is my first.

Thank you.

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everyone has to start writing out of was me yes.

alright. First question of the apple vision pro external battery pack is stated at two to two and a half hours within a risk. Those four things that they use to test the battery life are video playback, internet browsing, spatial video capture and what popular apple first party APP.

Do you think the vision pro can have multiple timers? Do you think .

the vision pro pro has a calculator? If IT has a calculator.

but the ipad doit, I love that. Love that.

They are video playback, internet wissing, spatial video capture. And what popular apple first .

party APP kay flip.

and I very fidget.

I were two things. So yeah.

I put photos, apple photos.

no up a face time.

correct?

I also wrote face time, correct? I had also written messaging because I wasn't sure if I was. I was just face time.

I was to put messages. Face time takes a lot. That's what I was like. data.

I would also think that spatial video would take a lot. So it's surprising that apple actually because video playback is like playback is yeah but I have a little .

but in terms of like doing battery life, you're spending way more time on face time then you're .

spending a video over a under promising and over delivering.

That would be nice because I assume if I just far sorry brows or just watch a movie, it'll last longer than two, two and hf are yeah.

I just found that funny, that IT thinks that those are the foremost popular things people going to be.

That doesn't mean that at all. That just means that they thought that a good number.

I'm sure they have data that show.

if you just pick .

pages .

for the way .

apple measures iphone Better. And it's very often like we browsing video playback, a couple things that they know i'll last a long time and just a cycle of like forth and they're like things .

that people do .

on your phone. I'm not sure yet. Why include that?

They pushed .

face time real hard. You get to make your whole like three face or .

everything right?

Yeah, that was first question. Second question, um which of these isn't a real kind of horse power? A draw bar horsepower, b waterwheel horsepower, c electric horsepower or d boiler .

er horsepower.

There's a bunch more too, which was interesting. There's like salary that I saw on .

the wikipedia ge free course power.

Yes.

we need some new markers .

in thing we do. Trying to channel my inner Alice while he's on the city show floor. Which of these is not real? Alright, flip on and read.

You'll put electric.

You all put .

electrical power. Yeah.

I thought a not elective course power is the power .

output is ordinary, stated in watts or kilowatts in the united states, the power output is stated in horsepower, which for this purpose is defined as exactly seven hundred forty six. Whats that electric? seven?

I just assumed there was. Obviously, I didn't really. I guess yeah, people usually just say it's x .

kila .

yeah I would be was a question where like we do consider the power from electri C2Be hor sepower.

but you know, something the that I picked me was because all of the cars that are electric that are now we just read in horse powers. So like why wouldn't read .

an electric course? A lot of them will have A A slide that just as uh, with two hundred kilo ox or I thought.

is I like equivalent horse power .

IT is yet there's there's an equation to get from killing ops to horsepower.

But is IT called electric horsepower.

The fake one that I made up was water wheel horsepower.

That sounds, I was really convincing. The boat very.

I had a whole explanation, the power a waterwheel would give in a stream of water moving at ten meters per second .

after one full test of hundred, hundred six in. Okay, right? We got, got though. We got.

got good job. I.

well, okay. I hope we all learn something today, both about vin fast and electrics power and C, L, T, C and C, L, T C.

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