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Waveform Awards: Looking Back and Peeking Ahead!

2023/12/29
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The hosts discuss their favorite moments from the past year of the Waveform podcast, including a bonus episode and listener feedback.
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  • Recap of the show's year in a fun way.

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What is up, people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the way from podcast. Where are hosts? anger. And i'm I didn't I just know that I didn't plan an intro o .

for this episode .

like the last one of the year, like the big finally one I felt I wish have like a thing to get into.

And they look .

at our outline. Okay, this is that anything interrelated in here? I feel like doing what I hear.

Nose a dog in .

is crime in space.

why?

anyway?

This is the way form awards episode. Yeah basically in this episode we're gonna go over the past, I don't know, mainly three, but possibly also the lifetime of this podcast.

Two hundred recently.

Yeah, I was so two hundred past recently we're going to go over some of our favorite moments, some of our like less chaotic moments, our favorite good things of that nature. So if you don't care .

about that now.

they're time to leave.

But if leave us running .

and then you walk .

away if you're listening because you can do both of .

the true and your dishes, there is that guy who always has to do his dishes while this. So shout out.

We launched the special episode back in mid december, the bonus episode with climbdown. And there was a guy that tweet at us that said, I only run when I listen to the wave form podcast, so I love and you guys .

do the bonus episodes because IT forces me to be more active. Oh, that I ve but yes.

this is the way form. We're just going the way from the words show, kind of an end of your recap in a fun way. I think adam and ellis have made a bunch of different questions and things about this year, things about the podcast and roll gonna say your favorites or whatever they have. It's a bunch of fund questions and recap. Let's a hit in a staler the highlight time yeah highlight real.

Highlight me, scot.

So first question, what is one heart take that you wish you could take .

back that dies, right?

Are you are you setting me up.

Marcus? What is one hot take that .

you would you could take?

I'd like to take one to apologize.

This is like the fourth time, so we know.

No, i'm getting, obviously I would take back in his son never made a check. I recently watched a real body made a highlight, real like me sing to.

and I just don't feel like bringing IT up.

It's me going like a new son. I don't think they had tracker and you going like, I think some people and then a highlight real of forty five seconds at knees on track cars.

Oh my, I felt, I felt too bad showing with you. But I get things that every week good.

It's pretty.

So i'm going to put that on at the top. That's for me. There was the top post on our cars. I never live IT down, no matter how much I learned about car cars for the rest of my life. So will just haunt me for the rest of time.

So good on you for apologize. Like taking a back. It's today. I like .

I .

can hear .

the music.

The time I think this is how we started the end. So views is that up ah this .

is on youtube. It's got two hundred views. I'm sure it's got the one gram. Instagram probably probably never get on time.

Listen, if that's the clip that people are taking from you out of ten plus years online, I like your worth cake. I think that's a glowing achievement. Maybe not to the need on community. You have to buy G. T. R.

It's totally fair. It's only fair to the fair. Yeah, that's my. Anything, any other how takes you guys like I mean, we're supposed to .

all answer all these all five of us so if .

you can think.

well, mine is also car related so yeah pretty you know I I got a comment that shook me to my soul court so are so core core cycle um yeah on there is on the clip we posted of the cyber truck um or the episode right after we got the cyber truck. Someone commented we've lost Alice front .

face because .

you did .

a little I like .

to regret IT a little .

bit yeah you know, because i'm looking back. I really I really did turn me the truck into eleven year old, which is, you know what, i'm on camera. Try to act like an adult and just be yourself.

You got to stand by IT. You know, like the stand by me again.

I was waiting for that. It's about it's about principle. And I do really believe that the cyber truck as cool as IT is also sucks. So wait.

I can happen. That's a huge difference from before.

Now I said i'm saying I was like really excited about this thing.

Yeah but what it's going .

to kill someone they all will no, yeah no. This one, the cyber truck is going to kill someone worse. And hardly.

you mean like some unique cy truck away in a blunt way in a way that other people wouldn't die.

You mean, you know it's like if if you put Spikes on your car and then we're like cars are already dangerous, you know IT would be like you have a the Spikes on you you too yeah so .

that I think this might .

be the there's .

no shade to anyone who is into the cyber truck because again, it's really but to to all my my bike writers and my my street narrowed and my park builders out there.

I see you on the street vendor.

St, to was so funny comment to that. I tried to be like all shaky and be like, i'll never live this down as well and then they just lied. You choose your side.

They're like, we know, we know the truth. Love IT. So my problem with having hot taxes.

I read too many comments and get way too worried about what somebody y's to say that my takes seely mild. So like, I just don't have a lot of hostis because I argue with myself in my head too much. But I did there something in here that I just got completely wrong once and got a bunch of comments about.

okay. And I think it's reasonably confusing that I got IT wrong, but there was my take on that we probably won't never see the fish ker ocean because fischer just felt like this strange car company that I thought I died already. And i'm partially right.

Fiscal automotive died in two thousand and fourteen. Yeah then they meet the cma reveal out of the fiscal karma, but then fiscal incorporated restarted. And they're actually pretty popular, I believe, in amsterdam, but also other countries.

And not only that, they're out there bindings in a picture of one on the road the other day and there's shipping. So i'm just completely wrong about that. I do think the ocean looks cool.

I think that is reasonably confusing. But I should have been right about IT on the past. We talked about IT and I always thought the ocean was cool. I just didn't think about just want to say.

in two thousand and seventeen, I interviewed john fisk at ce for android authority, which makes absolutely zero sense whatsoever to the car of no. So because of that, he must have been really, really hoping for any media attention. However, which makes me think that I was also shared one of these gonna.

Yeah so at that point, that seems I think two thousand and sixteen is when fischer incorporated restarted. And so they've been around for a while and the cars have been coming out more recently. I believe I ve got that much deeper into this, but I was wrong about IT. IT wasn't a hot take, but I was one that I wish .

I was or it's understandable. Yeah yeah. Large town. All those car manufacturers, like.

I feel bad that I put IT in with all of them and they are already on the the road, right?

Already made a bunch of stuff that was hot gas though. That's the thing. They have a history of being hot gas.

The funny thing is, is if you search fischer cars on google, the first wikipedia page that comes up is fiscal automotive, and you click IT and write in the side bars as defunctive, and then you scroll down a little father. The logo is also the same. But anyways, I don't want to .

make give excuses. IT reminds me one of those and me, but that like breaks off into a new one because the company bought the rights to the name and then reappears as a new company. But IT got from the company good.

So the three of yours are all about cars.

Yeah, I know nothing about cars that i've never pretended to. So you cannot get mad of me for knowing nothing about cars. You take to tech I making no and guesses about cars yeah um I don't know I I, I I make I make text that and I don't regret them you know stick with you ve and .

you're going get pulling to talk about I didn't .

I was racking my brain for this for this answer and I don't remember really any take that I was like that was completely off face on that is funny .

because i'm sure we all have had pretty random takes that you just don't really remember um so anyone's out there and wants to corrective IT yes please .

as a tool I found called pod scribe, which lets you look through and search in plain text the trend script of every podcast we've ever recorded. And if you make an account, you can you can search hot take and just get the timestamp and actually start playing the exact moment any of us have ever said the words .

hot take every here's a hot take. If you have to preface your hot take by saying hot take out loud, it's probably you're just looking .

for attention .

you a real definitive. Have you just say with .

that, I said that clubhouse was going to make a comeback.

Just embarrassing. I next .

question, ma came back .

and same trip. This one called that this was elly's .

is idea as something you were completely right about.

I'll started this one because I was .

never wrong.

anything obviously. Um okay, I got the human A I .

pin Price .

exactly.

Do get a lot of on whether or not the iphone fifteen .

regular model would get the dynamic island or not be and how long that that would take to move over. And I said that I did so I was called that I was probably wrong about a lot, was definitely never.

never, never.

ever yeah do you want to .

go markets?

I think we all know you struggling because you said something we're completely right about.

Oh, we don't technically .

know this one in this exact moment in time as we record this. I don't .

know if i'm completely a good point.

We month ago cyberstalker deliver by the end of the year .

on episode one seventy six.

And I said I would. You guys said IT wouldn't I was right then yeah then we'd said, well, we need to define delivered by the end of the year because what if it's just a small event and ten tesla employees get IT and then they said to delivered them and then that's exactly what happened. Oh, so in november, there was a was an november thirty.

At the end of november, there was a small event where tesla hand delivered the first party ten to fifteen cyber trucks. At least one of them went to a non tesla employee that I know like a honion. So that's one, but we defined as twenty five, and I don't know that I can say for sure that there's twenty five by the end of the year. So in in the broad sense of things where you guys thought no way that I was, I think I .

was. I think out .

of perspective, I all IT yt .

on the .

road side of you.

So I was .

my called IT too.

Yeah.

all the five. Yeah, it's right now.

IT is as recording this, the oh wow, this episode going out there right at the end of the year. So we all kind of know if IT actually happens, were recording a little earlier. So there's a little bit of time, but not as much as I would have thought. Would we consider there's only one delivery out right now? Well.

there's a bunch of unknown deliveries out because we don't know the people who took the deliveries on stage.

And one of them all the one videos are seeing in the wild have that what is, say, rc on the side.

rc is the release candidate trucks that they were testing. So the ones that are out now our foundation series and have their own bagging.

But so what i'm saying is generally, we can tell there's somewhat of an amount now when we see people like I saw the cyber drug, but every in the wild video we've seen has the on the site.

yes. So you have to see like there's pictures of the struck on internet IT has a little like that monster thing like the the cyber er beast, whatever. I don't know why is a new logo, but that foundation series is the first thousand cyber truck.

O K. So that's that. You have to see that and tried info .

for money because have you working email saying prepare for delivery so could happen .

before the into the year could work getting close .

real may find out get up.

I think I agreed with you thinking the event is like end of october start nowhere so well, right um this is my thing. I look down. I don't know i'm completely write about IT because we haven't seen IT out, but there was a point before we learned.

We know very little about the R U, but we know some stuff about right? I said like a hopeless I had for IT and what what I would be if I bought IT and I would buy IT right away. And I believe most of those things seem like that were incited. IT was basically like smaller size, still has a front trunk, has door motors, has at least three hundred miles of range um yeah and under sixty thousand, under sixty thousand and keeps its boxy shape because so many people like doing cross over and making IT like really yeah. aggressive.

And I believe I feel like the sixty .

thousand dollars .

icing we will .

not know until you yeah I ve had a yeah .

so I would not for sure. But like i'm not very good to predictions are usually on picking the silly predictions. So that's the only thing I can really think of that maybe could go correct. Yeah and I still hope that happens. But now I think there's twenty twenty eight when IT comes out.

So we have time h twenty.

twenty eight no twenty six, twenty six, it's only twenty three. I think twenty six, which still feels far away. Yeah, I see l is typing away here.

So he's twenty six.

It's but I don't think I can really .

contribute anything here. I got a lot wrong this year.

Okay, what would you go wrong?

Uh, I thought last season, I thought luca doncher ch was to have an eighty point game not even close.

Where did you see the video of the guy court side going? Like look a give me a good for tiktok and and then they're like, I think his offender is like talking back to the guy and then like luca gets IT and like shows often like through the fat .

way that was his A D F point. excited. But yeah also I definite spoke a lot on this very podcast about the human pin never coming out. Um I guess it's still technically .

has still as I .

think this ship has sailed in that way.

They never actually gave like a release state. They just three took periods yeah .

but he does see IT .

seems like it's going .

to come out seems real .

yeah IT hasn't got got any further in the process than the text roster did.

Think that's fair. That's totally fair.

And has more press people seen the cyber truck?

The pen of the roads are mean.

no, the cyber truck because only .

like four or five way more people have seen the cyber truck than the .

pin because it's out testing in the wild but I feel like I like press people have covered IT like um I want to call us reporters .

yeah that's a small handful for the same.

Okay, mayi ll take a back. You know maybe luke dropping eighty was my big truth this but eight.

the season not over. Yeah, this season. No, he was for last season.

Last season, eason, even though he seems more prime to do IT.

Anyway, this is by any point inning single game. Yeah, OK. That would be the second highest.

that would be the first highest score game time make you .

feel Better. He's probably had at least one game of being responsible for eighty points. I do appreciate probably have like a forty and twelve .

night or something weird. I like to formally apologize to our audience for making this brief. I A basketball podcast. Yeah, for bx, anyway, next never did we we get everyone for things we ve got right?

I think that's everything. Yeah, what did I don't get? No, he thinks the .

time is right.

Next thing it's .

been a crazy year. Um we talk a lot on this podcast about our twenty twenty three bingo cards. And while at the beginning of the year we never actually make such cards, we want to know what was the one thing that was least on your hypothetic bingo card for this year. Do a little .

bit interviewing tim cook .

way yeah I also did you guys I think he was after the post came out but I was like, I can't believe do a lipa as tim cook about like cobo mining and you're like way why he did .

genuinely amazing because you can tell like tim cook went into this being like, nice, a good soft interview with a pop star, what could go wrong and he started that way too. He was like, what's a day in the life at him cooked like and he was like, well, I wake up five. I work out.

I read customer emails and i'm very inspired. She's like that. So cool. What about .

the minds? Just write to .

IT .

was so good. I love .

watching. Do not come on our I can talk .

about interviews for me. I actually .

gently no, no, 对。

But I think the biggest thing is I was never in a years thinking apple was gonna adopt R. C. S. Before they were forced to.

Yeah, that's a really good.

That was the number one thing for me.

Also, IT really felt like I came out of nowhere.

like I did. You know the reason why?

no. So.

so the the E, U, designated a number of gatekeepers for specific types of applications. So like social media, messaging, all of this stuff. And originally apple was not designated as a gatekeeper initially for message, because in the eu method OK not that big.

But they did say IT is a potential gatekeeper and they they launch an investigation to determine whether there was a gatekeeper. The day that they announced that they were going to add R C S was the final day that they had to say to, like make up reasons why they weren't a get OK. So they push that out the very end there, man.

And so the e two, apple zero.

I think that apple just likes to get ahead of the things that they're going to be forced to do into the same thing with U. S.

B, C. And yeah up until they actually showed on stage I was fifty fifty on ether would actually happened .

that actually a good answer for this as well? Yes, I didn't actually because we've had been talking about IT probably episode one of the podcast, we talked about U S, B, C.

On the iphone at some point, are you going to be forced to eventually? So IT was unclear whether or not they would be forced to use R. C. S.

Well, I was thought they were just going to eliminate ports completely. I.

I didn't rule IT out. And this is hard to rule that out. Ironically, they deemed that I message is not a game ever.

So i'm not sure whether that's because they decided that, that would be a huge reason for sure. But it's also like part of the reason that the you are there because they are not popular enough. That's one of the reasons .

they said it's so funny that like here yeah hearing my apples now popular in love depending on where you live, is like totally unbelievable or extremely believable yeah for us that's wild.

It's like when microsoft is trying to buy blizzard and you is like, I don't know about this, like air, you guys both huge gaming companies and microsoft.

we we're .

not merely as popular.

Another thing that .

definitely was not on my bingo card was final cut process into the ipad. I don't I just never thought I was .

kind of my bingo car that IT would be bad.

fair. But I just thought they would never even entertain idea like one of those things, like, what do you mean? Do not like a weather rap on the ipad, right? Maybe in some future, the iping thing they don't have. No.

they have. I thought the timer on like theory.

they get multiple calculator .

APP and .

we're never .

getting .

an instagram. Ipad is never happening.

I thought the calculator thing is just like such a running joke. Now they're not onna do IT just because they want to maintain the joke. They're gonna a slow press month one day .

and we like ship IT. Didn't they make a reference to IT and do this year?

I think right there is like a two timer is able to multiple timer cragg federal, he said. We truly live in an age of wonder.

Wow, a good memory, David.

I wanna still want to David here because I feel very strongly about IT as well. Um I did not have read killing all third party apps and turning .

into an absolute disGrace of a website work uh.

yeah, I just didn't expect one of my favorite websites on the internet to .

just be killed.

But I really use IT at this point. Since I don't have my logging anymore, I have to go into the APP and search or something specific like if I I want to look up something about the devils, like the hockey team, i'll just go to the devils sub. The only time I use IT there is like, I do not. And this is all that anymore, which used to take up a lot of my time, and that does not anymore.

I saw this. I don't if you guys have been getting this, but on youtube and they will now serve you like one one out of every like ten videos. I'll serve your video that has like less than .

one hundred views for something to my really to just .

fall for at once.

This did happen. And you know, video, I I ice on boxing some japanese. Like.

did you get that two days ago? I got IT today. Yeah, because i've made IT public yesterday.

Wow.

huh. But that's fast.

I also did. So I started getting those like videos was like a hundred fifty years yeah and I also started getting like nine nine second videos just because if I if I click on one then it's all you like vine.

we've got one one hundred and when you use anymore really as much and and like so what does he reconstitute that time? As I saw this, this youtube video that was like, I quit all social media for three months, and here's how. And then the next video was called, i'm addicted to youtube.

got a huge backlog.

The third video was called, I finally quit all social media. And you.

Yeah.

really track you down but .

just I just shows that like, you can like, get off of one thing, but your brain wants to be busy and I will find a way to keep itself .

busy yeah my bingo card surprise space, uh, was Spike the AI mini Cooper dog?

Yeah, I live is stuck.

In my that's .

out now, they .

never brought IT up.

It's going to be in the .

electric like .

the little corner of a marketing material. But I there's no news stories.

I think right after ChatGPT like came out, everyone decided to make their own A I assistance ah because I was an A I assistant dog.

right was like in your car and at work and .

at work IT looks .

like a little jelly bean going off .

of something similar to that I was never expecting was a bunch of celebrities to offer their lightness ss to be to like A I chat and then not even use their name for a meda. That was the weird I honestly thought we were getting point that was happening here is the funny guy or the Chris paul, the golfer .

and some weird like like not even matching what they actually are. Expert as IT, yes.

we can. Ver, that was, that was you're bf f, who tells IT like IT is, yeah, I forgot about that out use. Oh god, paid so much money for a future that I, nobody has been to. I really like meet up if if one of your employees is let's watching this, let me know how many people use this product. I want to know there's .

at least seven of them. Yeah at least I at least .

at least the seven youtube s made videos about .

IT and there's more than seven people that work at that.

My thing that I did not .

have on my bingo card was the L. G. Stand by me. Yeah, just there's no way I could have predicted that kind of hardware.

LG is the one to do.

I mean, Alice is holding .

basically the briefcase wing.

I've got to say briefcase tech is hot this year, briefcase model comes more .

is so good.

That's a totally fair point.

Even take even only two two things.

but IT could I could block next year we get four things. Next year you get crazy briefcase that quick get what what else could you put a brief s get a brief case? Uh.

that's really they use briefed comes they have brief ed coes before a cell phone, right? This is going to really cell phone now briefcase computer is seems like the obvious one that was saying, I bm had .

briefcase computers in gaming PC. So I can go to starbucks .

the .

inside, yeah, there's enough room and there .

to fit exactly with his camera .

groove case camera. I don't think a single camera can fit in.

You d have to do like a really large .

format camera. My amErica talking.

David, are kind of, in a brief case, IT. IT does not fall like this and expand out.

yeah, no, twenty twenty four, the year, the great place.

Keep IT up on that of this. You're the dog, you're the hand, you're the briefcase. So I but we .

got a lot more to .

to look back at real quick. We're going to take a quick break and to come back. Thank you going.

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get your podcast right. Welcome back to the way form award show retrospective special .

finale .

episode okay, what's the next topic we got to the news story we didn't get to, but that we wish we got to talk about a fun one. Did he did anything come up? Because we have a whole slack channel and we drop news in there when we think it's worth talking about. We have conversations at the studio. Anything slipped by and not get talked about that should have i'm going to preference .

this by saying i'm usually the one who writes the outline and then gives you to David to fill in. So it's we can talk about whatever we want, whenever we want cause we write the outline for IT. So IT doesn't happen as often.

Um there's probably sometimes I would have like to talk about final male screwing stuff up because I loved to and I don't like them at all. But yeah that pride picks me some salt. I so I just saved IT for right now.

Now I can some salty and I would talk a lot about the one plus keyboard. And I wanted to talk about IT when we try IT. But we never got one or ordered one. So I didn't really want to try that because we did talk about a lot, but I never got to try. So yeah if one place if you're out there, i'd love to try IT looks pretty cool .

yeah we tend to go over most of the big news stories. Um so he says we write the explodes but um what I did notice I listen to hard for a which is a great um pocket by the new york times with k and and they both live in differences go so a lot of the news stories that they cover are like smaller S F tech stories that are hilarious.

Yeah so over there you have all these like driverless car issues because there's way o and crews that seven people are like put in coins on top of driverless cars and cars are dragged people across the road. And yeah, we talk about some of that stuff when IT makes like national news, but when it's like a smaller like more localized town news kind of thing, especially at a cisco all technology news, it's pretty fun. So I wish new york had more drama ahead and tech stories.

We wish driverless cars. We were causing more us in new york. Yeah exactly my stuff .

that I wish to. I I think we usually do talk about big news, but we did kind of miss one, which is that the new oran pire had their second strait undefeated .

season and .

one second champion area. I feel like just talk about IT. Why do I feel .

like we had like a guest or something after that? I think we did talk about IT very quickly or maybe just we did that is that week and you are gone.

We said you were .

doing so that's why you want to talk about. I was so how .

many .

winds in a rose that .

now twenty nine.

I think how many early season .

regular like well play .

playoff .

also yeah.

yeah. And you didn't win any the previous season.

You didn't win the champion the previous season, lost in .

the previous rect.

And even before that.

how did how did you do the season before that besides losing like we want to change? And how many games did you win lose in that season we want for that season? So you're like forty seven and one in the last three seasons, something around somewhere around there.

I think we might have lost. No, I think with this the year that we want the championship, we didn't go undefeated. That I was wrong about that. The twenty or the nineteen, we didn't go undefeated that year, but we did win the but then we lost some the year after that. And then have had two, three innovated season since then because there .

was a cold video while D.

I mean, they, the empire.

the team really like.

yes. So I just like, shut up to the empire, did a great job. I hope they went some more games this year yeah and then we .

can talk about anything .

else yeah the begin of the year, someone published a paper and I can't remember the exact details of matter for the year. Our signal, no. So signal did this in response to the paper like a few months later, and he was just sort of like abroad cypress curly thing. But IT seems like we're getting closer and closer to what's called q day, which is where .

quantum. Here we go.

Now we're getting closer and closer to the day when quantum computers have enough processing power to make a passwords irrelevant effectively.

And cypher vit, we talked .

to about, yes.

key public, but we're not .

there yet. And and I wish I could find the and IT was the kind of thing or when IT the paper came out, I was not big brained enough to like you feel like we could communicate IT. And the other news happened and connect st passed away and and the years have lots of developments anyway, maybe it's a long for epsom for the future.

Can I ask question about this that maybe you don't know or maybe is done on my side? But if worth, this is because computing is becoming so powerful that would essentially be able to to force .

the password so quickly .

that IT doesn't even. Is that at the root of what makes password secure in the way we use them now is you're using prime numbers that have millions of digits. So you need other numbers are that are really hard defined that have hundreds of thousands digits, and you multiple them together.

So in order to just crack that, yeah, you need to do IT like tons of times. But with quantum computing, you can now have if and or statements much easier a in in your code. So IT takes a lot less energy because you're working with possibilities.

Which brings me my question, where orient the majority of passwords have locked out precautions, is IT being brute forced?

So like me, this is why I need.

So I feel like, is that not the main reason? And I don't understand egypt all is I don't understand how, yes, that would potentially get there. But like, I can have to change my passage so many times that I get locked out of my own accounts all the time.

The version, the version of the story that I remember, because I went to the IBM lab with clear and we shot that cotton computer video, is that encryption necessarily passwords. But encryption is IT works a certain way. And quantum computers are getting more and more powerful and increasing the number of cubits in each quantum puter that if we eventually get to this number of cubes, IT will be able to crack Normal prime number scription methods no, reasonably quickly, okay? By the time we get to that powerful level, we will have switched encysted .

method yeah, because a lot of modern encysted relies on factory .

prime numbers w the paper is some researchers in china figured out the new .

fastest way to do prime factorization.

okay? And and aren't there can be one, zero, a superposition of golf. And so they are able to factor prime numbers way, way faster. So instead of something takes ling like a hundred and million years to crack, IT could take a couple of days. So, well, yeah, and signal developed a quantum proof, uh, protocol that has added encryption that is quantum proof as well.

That's why my two friends, I had to look at up, quantum friends, I to look us up just .

to make sure out the numbers right, because I would have been made if I got wrong. The number of cubits just going up over time, like ten cubits, is a pretty big on computer. And fifty year and and one hundred and twenty twenty one IBM eagle got up to one hundred and twenty seven cubits.

And on the newest IBM four hundred cubits, uh I B M also planning to build a hundred thousand cubit counting computer by twenty thirty three so you can see the curve and can see the curve just going by twenty twenty three this year, twenty thirty three. So it's it's improving very quick. Yeah, yeah, super cool. yeah.

I understand my answer to that.

Piggybacking off of ellis was very similar. I wanted to talk about privacy because again, with like signal and hypo stuff like that, we have like two fifty six shot, two fifty six encryption standards that are being potentially like broken by quantum computing. So that would be interesting. Privacy is an interesting topic.

A lot of different ways because like people are always very worried about what google like, what you're getting shot out to marketing things. But that's very different from a lot of other different privacy things. Privacy in general just seems to be this giant scary thing on the internet.

IT also feels like a landscape where there is a huge difference between the people who care about IT, the people who don't care about IT.

Yes, I think most people don't care about IT, and it's almost and ethical dilema at this point.

Did you see that eight sleep guys tweet during the samella thing?

Do what to see or something? yeah. No.

no.

M.

actually I feel like cut part out.

He was like, he was like, wow 3 prances go you guys had you guys must be stressed or something like tony and SHE he's like, our data reported that seven disco area, eight sleep users slept thirty three percent more poorly or whatever you like, you guys must be stressed. It's like you're .

watching how that so weird but also .

the sample size of that is like five people .

and they afford that and they .

are .

they're all like how do I maximize yeah just their sleep in their soiling next to .

their bed yes. Next up is a trivia question that you're still mad about .

all these months. Yeah, I won. I O, K.

I have won that.

I mad that I got correct.

okay.

So there was an episode where I believe the question was summer along the lines of um what do Spark notes and okay, cupid haven't common and as I was writing IT down, I thought of something really funny. Disable was worried that might be inappropriate, which now I don't think it's that appropriate. So I wrote same.

C, E, O, I think. And I was correct. And then after the founder, after we cut the video, I was like, a founder, yeah, I said, uh, I thought of something really funny and Alice, like, instantly clicked.

And we were both like, they're both websites used for cheating. And I thought that was very funny. And I would have rather have got to the question wrong, did they really? Okay, so I would have rather gone IT wrong and not had to say IT fifty episodes later, but I thought was funny. And I thought about that.

I think you would have gotten the point. That's what I think matters.

Think you have the point. I do. People not know what Sparkles just asking kids ChatGPT exactly. Sparkles used to be uh website that basically give you a super brief ed version of a book. Yeah so if you wanted to like cheat on your uh like home work assign.

he was also for like you were you were expected to like five chapters of pride and prejudice when you also had math homework and geometric homework yeah I X home work to do yeah gem try is math, I guess anyway but like, so I would go on Spark now because I would like literally and in jasbir and marching ban, I don't have time so I would just go on IT would be like a recap of chapter seven and just so that when you win into class the next day, when the teacher antimony called on you and asked you something that happened, you could be like.

you would know the plot and you know some small details and you could kind of .

go on with they all they.

This is a knowing enormity of cheating .

my acher nature.

I remember SHE quiz us on every single reading section SHE be like, read these eight chapters and then he d quiz us on my usha inside IT so that I wouldn't be on Spark notes. No, he was horrible.

I had a english teacher that I really appreciated because the way he did guises on chapters that we read, where you start taking IT and then at the end be like, okay, you can open your book for one minute because like if you read that, you would kind of know the area that I was in. So like you still had to have reit, but you could find what I was if is a little more giving you one more minute. I still didn't IT and still tried to figure out just from that. But I really you can't control f on a page and yeah.

i've actually .

tried now .

here's a thing, give those kids to make a glasses and really, hey, matter.

Who can tell me .

which side of the peg three? And we actually tell the answer here just, and yeah, multi model AI is gonna change. SHE did not test forever anyway. Uh, the one that I was still mad about, I got wrong.

IT was the G, T. R.

Being a track ker, no that wasn't a question. The one um about i'd just read what I wrote in two thousand and nine. Youtube introduced an experimental light weight version of the site what was IT called and I wrote youtube go which is the name of a light weight version of youtube.

They built but a different time, because they also tried at another time in two thousand and nine, and was called youtube feather. So youtube has done the same attempted, failed thing and killed IT more than once. And I named the wrong .

other time that they killed IT. This is really funny.

because mark was just like, really.

so what do you think the version three point I will be called?

Youtube light.

youtube now, youtube backs.

youtube men. Youtube many. Youtube many. Youtube many. I I like that. I be a good actually.

a great name. And yeah popular youtube .

is .

like facebook is to be just facebook light yeah and .

messenian in .

the time before time when android phones are still very new, the facebook APP would just constantly run in the background and take like fifteen percent of your battery .

in a day and thirty percent .

the person of my battery facebook yes so um they made a light version of the APP that used like a wait less memory in the background and ah you had to downloaded .

if your phone was too slow or so we're .

you rocking two facebook APP yes nice yes yeah and then I uninstalled .

facebook in two thousand .

and thirteen and I haven't used for use what up the yeah oh you know one o this is from earlier in the .

shaking ages trigger day you know.

what is one of my hot takes that is slowly getting colder? Is that what's up is terrible and there are a lot of ways where is still really terrible .

and what's pretty bad? Yes, so, but that's a cold take. Now it's .

getting colder, but it's sort of like how everyone is also getting colder over a billions of years. I so energy it's it's .

gna get harder .

before I get colder.

But go on, nova .

works can be supermassive.

It's in times not a science .

corner brought to you by, anyway.

you will go on sorry, anyway, what's up? I still really don't like the APP and it's very knowing when people always say just use what's up for no one, no uses what's up. But over the course of this year, they have rapidly added a ton of features that a lot of other messaging apps .

had also is getting hotter.

No.

the take is getting your take is getting hot. You said, what's up is bad oh, so you getting harder because of getting Better. Yeah, yeah, ah yeah. It's still bad.

It's just less bad. Just IT is getting rapidly Better though. And I have to commend those engineers for making a Better. I ve never .

thought what's up was a terrible. I just hate the comment. Just use what's up because it's not just me. IT is also all of the people .

that I communicate getting something, download a new messaging .

APP and make new account for something. So you what like.

yeah, here's an equivalent for everyone who leaves the comment. Just use whats up. I want you to turn that in words. And imagine if somebody told you just use facebook messenger. You would be like, what I could, but then I have to convince everyone that I know and speak to to also use basic passenger .

like signal because basic c messenger r if you have, what's you probable a facebook account, which means you have a facebook passenger accounts. So yeah, it's not just I for something new. You've to get other people to use IT.

It's not just easier because I change IT. Every other person that I have to communicate with has to change IT logistically makes zero sense what people say that yeah.

but my take is getting harder and i'm getting more wrong slowly, most universe. And I thought all of my tribe questions .

were absolutely perfect this year um but I did remember two more things that I was wrong about over the course of this year too.

Once when I what .

I was like oh among us in the apple .

iphone presentation.

not they really came out. They tried to help me. The other thing I was wrong about this year, about ninety seconds ago, when I said that red giants are hotter than Normal stars.

They are in fact, cooler. Yes, wrong about that too. So I was right. You were right, but you were wrong with the analogy because you're take, in fact, getting hotter as what's up gets Better.

It's in an episode. We say everything we get wrong. We're getting a lot of stuff.

I just want to say that as someone that uses telegram signal and what's up, what up is by .

far are the superior? No, no.

it's not .

might have .

that that one is IT has all .

the feature back up your messages to google drive? yes. And really.

yeah, no. That's only if you had an android. If you were on iphone, you had to back IT up to a .

message or not? Yes, I they have this problem are on android because they otherwise they this message.

No, I know so many people that have iphone and use water problem.

But the problem .

was that for the longer I don't know, they actually fix this, but the backup that you put onto the I cloud or onto google drive, yeah if you switch devices lost.

which was very one phone at a time.

never a problem because you're the only person with seven different phone, the two people in this room. The only one of this issue .

is that the reason I didn't use IT.

I think there's one person who ever has said, can I have your what's up information? And I was adam barbo because he lives like all over the place. Yeah, I wanted to do a pink punk b with us. Yes.

never been asked. Yeah, if your into, like when I was the doctors office.

I totally understand, but not .

the scene .

here. Self is the best .

APP no IT looks IT looks like IT looks like the thing that mark uses with the phrase, team.

group me. Group me out a Better chance in the, I had a Better chance. More people were on good though, a .

prove .

read.

I used to group me for my hot, like, I lived with ten people, and I was in college for a few years. And we used to group me for the house. We moved to slack. That's how that's what are .

that's what i'm hoping we .

originally use group me as the M K B H D chat. When the god this .

is true oh my god ah this might be out of date, but twenty twenty one, twelve million monthly active users and angry me, twelve million, it's basically that yeah.

oh yeah. I think it's I haven't had IT on my phone from that. There was a time where I had multiple frisby group is going on, had the work group me like I was in four.

five different channels, and about great. Now all for swee teams. Great me is still owned .

by microsoft, really. Oh, yes. And they have never done anything with what I 4。

That's so true.

We can give credit for that. Alright, just new one. I like this one.

We've had so many wonderful guests in this past year. I'd like to know who was .

your favorite good ones. I am partial to the creator interviews, like talking to two players about being creators. So in the past year, that would be doctor mic, clear room and smooth each, just because that's my favorite conversation and it's the only way I get to have that conversation. yes. So I love this.

Doesn't I love this was so good because SHE was like just enough in the tech role. But also so far out of what we do that is like you guys had a bunch of common things going on. But and also like just O G Simon post sun redit like lowing up.

yeah. Just make me feel like the early internet. And I love you so much.

This is an old one I really liked. We did a rich, short interview with jet aon red from radio lam and he is very interesting, like information about radio in the way the podcast worked. I thought I was really interesting.

I loved um the conversation that we had about A I recently with a dango. And then also I would say, I think that cleo's and interview was amazing. I I watched that back a couple times and I was like.

this is really was so good that I started putting like full page quotes whenever they said something. Yes, started in yes. I to pick a favorite .

moment, tom's got doing the type alphabet, like the one of the greatest thing that ever happened on this two.

I know we were .

talking about some older people. The best moment times got typing me, ala back going alto, a competitive mode on IT and crush.

Yeah, yeah. That was crazy. Someone tweeted that as yesterday that they got in like two point two three seconds so raz.

my friends that made the website can do IT in like one point two ah, which is why he made the website because that used to be like a thing he would practice. Also, he's making a bunch of dates to IT. So now though IT has the full alphabet and highlights the letter that you're on and screws across, he's also added typing IT backwards.

He's added typing the first like forty digits of pie. He's been putting a bunch of up practicing coding so there's some cool stuff. Take the alphabet dot APP.

Um that's that's pretty cool. Ah I think he's going to start doing like chAllenge of the day. Where is going to add like movie quotes or book quotes and stuff and type .

e if he's been working on IT? Yeah, my favorite interview was the R. J. One from, yeah, that was super fun for me because we shot IT in the car, which is crazy.

So we had to set IT all up and everything IT actually was raining that day, which was not expecting. And then I was supposed to be like a floating camp, just walking around and like recording the thing, because I couldn't be in the actual car. Not only was I stressed about everything in the car working, but I had to get the crazy st. Shots with a camera in the total of rain.

the rain we were building all over.

So niche, like those are some of my favorite ts i've .

ever got that looks so cool. Do you also remember I went to a hockey game the night before and yell too loud? So my, i'd like no voice and i'm like trying to talk to people. I. I was very nervous about that.

That was a fun, was a fun. And we got some good, some good quotes and insight from my end. Yeah, that was good.

I like .

roly.

Yeah, huge end of his. And when we finally got the email, like we're doing that, I was like, oh yeah.

really. So yes, a lot of people.

you he was jest.

a lot of people also. I just why we decided to do that collaboration. And after the apple episode Alice came to doesn't said, I have a great idea, like climate down, great channel.

And we came back and Joanna was like, i've love climate town. So I started watching IT and literally watched. I've watched every episode and listen to every podcast that y've had because I elected so much.

And then look into our comments, and so many other people were like, climate on climate on, climate down. So I was awesome to get him on. And that is writing bricklin kind of like we have him now. Do the other things cool.

that he is a cool guy, also very funny, that he's a boxer doctor. That hurts people. That's good. Good comedy.

Yes.

as a job is well.

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Welcome back to the wave form awards, not special, but sort of enough special. Episode end of the year podcast bestrown barn grill on the water promex we have our three lovely hosts of the wave from podcast David, Mandy, magna and mark has Browning and i'm here to ask them, guys, what was .

your favor? IT was my favorite .

to be .

a part of version that was family, the family food version. I mean.

what was what we call the the?

No, no. This was the like family. Few years sitting here and out is there. That was the most fun to be a part of, I know is very different for listeners and everything but like and I was very frustrated because wireless charging, you guys don't want that in your family.

I'm definitely not salty about that ah and and then my favor episode that I just watched, probably because I wasn't here, but the climate was awesome. I was super pump for that. I missed IT, but you guys did awesome and it's great videos is awesome.

I never like to catch up on that. Um I really like the live apple episode that we did. I was .

to apple park. Yes, there is something about talking very brutally, honestly, about apple's news element in front of the people hearing reactions for the first time. That's fun. People do wonder that.

So there's quite like two or three apple P R people there and then the rest of IT is actually team that's contracted out, I believe. So they don't actually they're working for apple in that sequence.

But and guys are they are amazing.

And like one of the reasons I liked that so much is because even in the second time, they made a whole desk and video set up for adam and Alice, like to me that just kind of felt like why these people are looking at our product, not just inviting us, but like.

they know what we do. Yeah, and they made IT special. These are the same people that buy all of the exact .

camera and like computer and it's .

it's a workplace team and apple in general. Yeah no, I was that was mine too. I think that was super fun. Yeah um I can't image how much to .

on our side and then this was technical this year .

uh secret history net was this year, which he was sort of a part IT was a prequel to the I of the seven of the internet that we did last year as the last episode the year last year yeah so yeah I was really fun to do that yeah later but IT was a frequent I was like star wars .

and then we did .

Better epson. I was again.

So you and then a lot .

of people really likes the site modem isolation. Good feedback on a lot of people like a wrote about IT and we got a ton of people. Yeah it's it's just being like .

memory 类 memory lay。

So that was fun. Soldiers, a hell of drug.

Yeah exactly my favor episode was I think it's called a thoughts on apple vision pro .

and wwdc twenty three.

That's the one that we had to fly back here to record after we didn't get to record IT in apple because the only time thought that .

we had was to really quick .

fun fact about that. The episode either one or two before that was W W E D C predictions in july. That video itself had like three hundred thousand views, which was after the event a month later, after everything in bit announced, three hundred thousand people .

watch our predictions on the what if was the analyst, the channel. I would gotten that wrong every single time because I I really don't value prediction videos as a creator because I do believe that they become useless. The fastest IT works well for this, but they're fun. The podcast and we're doing timely stuff. But then the fact that actually did continue to get watched after IT was already .

I think that was more views than the actual event one.

And I got more views after the event then before the event yeah like july.

where these views in from of to .

people watching you really specker of predictions. I've got A A quick question. What's your guys is the biggest prediction for what's going to happen in twenty, twenty four in tech? In general.

i've so ready to be wrong.

I think that multimodal AI is going to take off and start being integrated into everything .

that such a look warm Better.

do Better. That's a way. I think that is the thing that we appeared to be on the so I believe that i'm trying to go far out.

I'm trying to go a little bit like november bigger yeah, just like just something crazy. Yeah, I found sixteen roster have a ports. No roster has no shot.

Again, apple vision pro is, do we get apple vision the same year proba proba couple years? Can do we get some crazy like the iphone we already knows going to be an incremental thing? Again, pixel, samsung, wow.

You know. What would be interesting though is the the apple watch x because it's going to be a flory design go on well, that's the tense generation of a huge rumor that there's going to be a major redesign of the apple watch next year. I like that.

I feel like we heard about major software jor hopefully to do IT. All of us are too scared after we just said everything that was wrong were also scared to make that bold of a predate.

I'm just having a hard time because again, so much happened that was IT on my twenty twenty three bingo card. It's like, okay, another monitor in a suitcase. Like how they have suppose, guess .

soon come C, E, O of amazon, hostile blood. Finally ships a camera that can shoot A K video, or video at all. video. And IT will be A K yeah.

that's .

going.

I going .

to actually looking.

It's going to, like, come out but it's gonna the the thing you know I think we're very close to a few different volumetric display technology .

yeah working ah yeah like what what's going to be the biggest trend of twenty .

twenty four that isn't A I everything is going to be A I just a different version of A I like.

So instead of transparent objects or a tech, I think it's gonna colourful. I think that's going to be the train back real.

cause back real.

What about transparent colors?

Maybe so many silver .

and gray things .

this year, I would really like to be correct. Yeah bring back the colors.

And right.

here's another one. Here's another question. Worst product of the year, absolute worst product.

worst product release of the year.

mind is based on release OK worst product for release of the year. It's it's so obvious is IT oh.

the new apple pencil?

That's a great one that a .

good one in what's on I don't see the problem, you see, I don't see the issue. What what's .

the problem? Pro .

vivia, even this year, technically really .

IT had a very long through .

our history before I came out this year. I did yeah.

does rough yeah, yeah.

That's the winner, I guess.

So I have one for your worst product release. I message for android phones.

gable. They came up like a day and then every single, all of the .

releases. So that's my answer.

is a great answer. true. great. true.

wow. Even though some of them might work eventually in terms of a release. Those were .

brutal releases yeah at the time between .

release and and our series were .

record breaking OK mine is x .

the product oh together get the .

most black for IT. But I didn't think .

twitter and rebranding at his .

ex yeah you just mean the branding, the branding.

the product itself.

I don't the worst time product .

is x premium like .

a forty four dollar.

two or twenty three dollars a month plus S I still can't use drug because .

when I try to use IT, I click on and so you need a premium account so I hit the button and it's like you've had a premium account for this long okay. I guess i'm not .

using for them. Yeah there is a bunch broken.

anger inducing things that all that this year like .

when they redesigned .

that was but they .

have got rid of that.

They up version they are they failed real quick.

They didn't get rid of IT.

Actually, it's just in a different section .

in the APP that is not taking over year. Before I was like, I took A.

I do want to have one for my most. This is a different category, but my most underrated in the year, spotify. D, J.

I like the D.

J, D, D.

J, X, what .

what's say? Your name? That's no, no, that's the same. Maybe it's change, but sometimes the the of his voice sounds like the self. Check out, please put your bananas in .

the the body area. IT starts at the beginning, I .

heard before.

Here's M, G, M, T.

just to keep you on your toes.

We also have extended David.

Better.

But the next part was actually minds as many .

coming up now .

I got vote.

I think you will only do the intro once a day, though I think you might have a name that I .

like knows .

how to say now doesn't.

It's never tried to say that has to be like a predefined list of regular.

I'm just playing on on my list because I think again, in our role of like everyone talking about A I and ninety five percent of people are talking about A I and chat bots, I think we should highlights other genuinely interesting uh, applications. AI that aren't chatbot. A I, yeah, I think OK yeah. A I D J, L, A D J, yeah.

Okay, I added one here at the end. Okay, I want everyone to list their favorite sound by IT that we use. Um I think not like we've been using sound boys more the woops sound by and some other ones. It's so good, but I think we use them so much more in studio that doesn't make till the final, but we have a lot of sound by on this board and I want everyone to list to .

what their favorite favorite is .

on the board yeah can be from whoever the one .

that makes you you got to .

play IT after you mentioned yeah see how close we can get to .

the actual sound say .

first yeah like I can't say Andrea de as well.

I don't think I can say once. I I think my favorite is I don't think I can name all the planet. Yes, I don't. I don't think I can name all the planet.

You had another one that I really like this. I'm sorry, i'm trying to stop and no, the one where he goes, I think he says, I used to think that I was smart. Yeah.

I thought I was small.

but can you play .

that and point at one? I thought I was smart. But yeah, I don't think .

I can name .

that's a good one. 嗯。

i really like bingo.

let's go bingo because that time .

was here and I I get a lot of tweet about that. One of people just tweet bingo .

IT also was the background conversation that confuses me sometimes, and I think some people .

are just talking. But I think the I think the one where you like sneeze and .

then you .

that I remember that life, I remember that life that was I was pretty funning yeah, that was also just ops fits .

the best good. And IT happens .

to come .

the week you are gone. Yes, so we just use that as time we made a mistake.

Besides lips, I think my favorite .

has to be fifteen percent of my diet rezin. I A things .

there is.

I thought I .

was smart.

I thought I was smart.

I was want to give a quick shout out to some of the ones that didn't make IT on of the world like this outtake from the climate town episode.

where from is produce by one one tesla and one river, and our alpha music is by big silk.

I'm so mad that I wasn't here for the side banter of, like, everything going, got .

this jam goes east.

Sorry, no, doesn't retry you go, go west. Well, from the filipino iceland.

Sorry.

no, no, because because then you say this way. And so I said telly.

P, okay, that's just me. Like telly. P, in reference teleprompter, you guys get the idea. You got a lot of good, good stuff on here over the years.

So sweet played of chicken nugget.

When did we say that? Not like.

not know.

I I cannot .

I don't remember what I was thinking about. I think he was something important.

You're game or you cannot afford that.

So sorry, I think i'm sorry. Audio listener is .

never complained about.

That's how I feel opening the comments to the video every single week. There's no way they could be turn out, get some good bites. If anyone's ever wondering what we do between outbraves, it's usually .

just a lot of the hey.

you all right. Well, instead of trivia to wrap up this a fine episode, we thought we just hit you with a little bit of fun facts uh, about this year and just sort the show in general. Um so for you, we have by the end of the year, we will have published fifty five episodes of the way for .

in podcast .

and fifty two weeks in fifty .

two weeks look at us .

and we published one hundred and twenty eight wave form clips wow.

wow. Sick in the .

lifetime of the wave merum in the lifetime of the youtube.

get the music in .

the lifetime of the way form youtube channel. We have had eleven point six million watch hours.

twenty, twenty .

thousand, one hundred and thirty eight days, six hundred and sixty two months, fifty five years.

That's so crazy, crazy. I think about this all the time, like I never spoke to anyone in high school. I was like the quiet as kid in the back of the class. And when I see the spot of fy rap things about a podcast that as my voice and IT is mind bugling .

to me there's a lot of years of .

human life sorry, it's been .

the five years .

and i'm still listening to the way for just and .

last but not least, uh, controlling the light requires four hundred and thirty two megabits of biographically memory. nice. Just like someone out there episode.

i've done a lot of memory IT.

Yes, especially when you consider all that memory .

is going towards yeah just that nice worth IT.

Well, that's been an incredible wrap up to the year. Look, we appreciate obi guys for listening and for watching and subscribing because that's partly what makes this podcast possible and it's also makes IT so fun. It's why we do IT. So thank you for watching and listening and I have nothing else to say other then see you in twenty twenty four yeah.

i'm happy new year. Thank you again. This was the best year away from our time, and we plan on the next year just being even Better.

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Fifty three way .

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