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BTC234: Bitcoin Torque, Saylor's Playbook w/ Andy Edstrom (Bitcoin Podcast)

2025/5/14
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Preston Pysh: 我认为监管银行可以购买和出售托管资产,并外包加密资产活动,这对比特币来说是一个非常大的利好消息。这表明比特币正在逐步融入现有的金融系统,为更广泛的采用铺平了道路。 Andy Edstrom: 我也认为银行业参与比特币意义重大。每个现有的金融中介机构,无论是银行、交易所还是MicroStrategy,都将参与到比特币中。所有这些因素都对比特币的发展至关重要,是比特币实现其潜力并与现有金融体系融合的步骤。当然,这种融合是双刃剑。

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This chapter explores whether Bitcoin is the last asymmetric bet for companies, examining MicroStrategy's model and the increasing institutional adoption of Bitcoin. It also discusses Bitcoin's returns compared to traditional assets and the strategic and accounting changes allowing Bitcoin treasury allocations.
  • Bitcoin's increasing institutional role
  • MicroStrategy's model for Bitcoin treasury allocations
  • Comparison of Bitcoin returns with traditional assets
  • Strategic and accounting evolution enabling Bitcoin treasury allocations

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Andy Edstrom unpacks whether Bitcoin is truly the last asymmetric bet for companies, diving into MicroStrategy's model, capital structure risks, and Bitcoin's rising institutional role.

IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:

00:00 - Intro

03:40 - Why Michael Saylor calls Bitcoin a lifeline for “zombie companies”

05:20 - How Bitcoin’s returns compare to traditional assets over the last decade

07:10 - The strategic and accounting evolution enabling Bitcoin treasury allocations

12:00 - MicroStrategy’s premium-to-NAV strategy and its replicability

15:40 - Risks and rewards of BTC-backed leverage and convertible notes

18:05 - The logic behind “torque” metrics in Bitcoin-financed capital structures

21:10 - If preferred shares like STRK and STRF are innovative or dangerous

23:05 - Wall Street’s changing views on Bitcoin-leveraged equity plays

27:20 - Legal and governance hurdles in corporate Bitcoin adoption

29:10 - What a BTC-heavy balance sheet should do during a major drawdown

Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences.

**BOOKS AND RESOURCES**

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Andy’s X Account).

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Microstrategy Shareholders’ Meeting:** **Q1 2025 Earnings Call).

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Michael Saylor’s speech at Strategy World: Bitcoin for Corporations 2025 Keynote Speech).

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