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What's South Africa’s controversial land law, and why is Trump involved?

2025/2/19
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Hannah Gelbart: 我是汉娜·盖尔巴特,我们在讨论南非的土地所有权问题,以及美国总统唐纳德·特朗普错误地指控南非政府没收白人土地一事。南非的局势非常危险,对许多人来说非常糟糕。特朗普冻结了对南非的外国援助,并威胁要切断所有未来的资金,这在南非引发了震动。 Carnie Sharp: 《土地征用法》废除了1975年的法律,旨在使南非的土地所有权与民主的南非相符。1975年的法律允许政府为其目的收回土地。南非大部分土地由白人少数民族拥有,他们仅占人口的7%,而占人口80%的黑人仅拥有4%的土地。新的《土地征用法》允许政府在与土地所有者协商一致的情况下收回土地,用于公共利益项目。虽然该法案规定在某些情况下可以不进行补偿,但司法部门仍有最终决定权,只有在极端情况下才会发生这种情况。几乎每个国家都有土地征用法。 该法案旨在一定程度上解决土地改革问题,处理种族隔离造成的过去不公正现象。即使在种族隔离制度结束后30年,南非土地所有权仍然主要掌握在白人少数民族手中。南非国内对该法案的看法存在分歧,但与美国就该法案产生的争议迫使南非人深入了解该法案,并最终支持该法案,认为其旨在纠正种族隔离造成的历史不公。 埃隆·马斯克将南非的土地所有权法律描述为种族主义的,并指责南非政府对白人农民的“种族灭绝”行为做得太少,但这一说法并不属实。尽管南非白人农民确实会遇害,但他们并没有比南非其他任何人都更容易成为种族目标。特朗普关于南非没收土地和虐待某些阶层的说法是不正确的,因为这一说法是基于对《土地征用法》的错误解读。马斯克关于每天都有白人农民被杀的说法是不准确的,虽然白人农民确实会遇害,但这并非种族目标行为。马斯克关于南非存在公开的种族主义土地所有权法律的说法是错误的,因为南非大部分土地由白人少数民族拥有。马斯克似乎对特朗普总统有影响力,特朗普总统的言论与马斯克在社交媒体上的言论相符。南非执政党非国大表示,没有任何土地是在未经补偿的情况下被没收的。 特朗普冻结对南非的外国援助,这将对南非人民,特别是那些依赖美国援助获得抗逆转录病毒药物的人们产生影响。特朗普政府可能利用对南非的施压来取消南非的非洲增长与机遇法案(AGOA)成员资格,这将对南非经济造成严重的风险。南非人认为特朗普对南非土地政策的指责是虚伪的,因为特朗普自己也试图吞并其他领土。 Donald Trump: 我指控南非政府没收白人土地,并冻结了对南非的外国援助,威胁要切断所有未来的资金,因为南非的土地政策是不公平和不道德的。 Elon Musk: 南非拥有种族主义的土地所有权法律,政府对白人农民的种族灭绝行为做得太少。每天都有白人农民被杀。

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The Expropriation Act, signed in January, simplifies land ownership in South Africa, aiming for alignment with democratic principles. It allows the government to acquire land for public benefit, negotiating with landowners. Concerns arose over potential lack of compensation in some cases, sparking international outrage, but this is a common practice globally.
  • The Expropriation Act aims to align South African land ownership with democratic principles.
  • It allows government land acquisition for public benefit, with compensation usually negotiated with landowners.
  • Concerns over potential lack of compensation in some cases sparked international controversy.

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South Africa faced the wrath of US President Donald Trump recently when he incorrectly accused the country’s government of confiscating land from white people.

Trump said South Africa was pursuing what he called "unjust and immoral practices" against the white minority Afrikaner community. As a result he’s frozen American foreign aid to the country and threatened to cut off all future funding, causing shockwaves across South Africa.

So how did we get here? What exactly is South Africa's Expropriation Act? And what influence is one of President Trump’s closest allies, South African born Elon Musk, having on the decisions being made? The BBC's Karnie Sharp talks us through what we need to know.

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