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Ted Danson认为《Cheers》对他产生了深远的影响,并回忆了与Mike Schur合作的经历,他认为在与Mike Schur合作中,他感觉存在权力不平衡,因为Mike Schur是编剧和创作人,而他是演员。他同时分享了他对Mike Schur创作风格的评价,认为Mike Schur在创作中能够放下自我,并且非常注重团队合作。 Mike Schur则分享了他的创作理念,他认为创作需要从零开始,避免重复过去的成功经验,创作是一个持续的探索和改进过程,需要开放的心态接受新的想法,并且是一个团队合作,需要保持开放心态,接受他人意见。他还谈到了优秀的演员也应该像作家一样,保持开放心态,不断尝试和改进。他认为成功的合作需要专注于项目本身,而不是迎合个人。 Mike Schur详细讲述了《The Good Place》的创作过程,包括他如何向Ted Danson推销这个难以推销的概念,以及Ted Danson的建议如何帮助他改进剧情。他还谈到了选角的重要性,以及他和选角导演Alison Jones的合作模式。他认为成功的电视剧作品往往看起来像魔术表演,但实际上是团队合作和运气的结果。他还谈到了《The Good Place》的主题在大学课堂中被采用,以及该剧如何帮助大学教授们更有效地教授道德哲学。他认为《The Good Place》受到年轻观众的喜爱,这让他感到非常自豪。

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Why did Mike Schur feel the need to explain the entire premise of The Good Place to Ted Danson and Kristen Bell before they signed on?

He wanted them to fully understand the intricate and surprising direction of the show, including the twist that the entire premise would be upended by the end of the season, to make an informed decision about joining the project.

How did Ted Danson's question about his role in The Good Place influence the show's development?

Danson's concern about playing the same comedic beat repeatedly led Schur to realize that revealing the twist earlier would give Danson more to play with, enhancing the show's dynamic and allowing for more varied storytelling.

What was the significance of the ethical and philosophical underpinnings in The Good Place, and how did it impact the show's reception?

The show integrated moral philosophy deeply into its narrative, which initially worried Schur but ultimately became a key element that resonated with audiences and educators, leading to the show being used in university courses.

How did Mike Schur's early experiences with cable access television influence his career?

These experiences at a young age provided Schur with practical knowledge of filmmaking and a sense of satisfaction from creating and finishing projects, which solidified his desire to pursue a career in writing and producing television.

What pivotal moment at Saturday Night Live led to a significant change in Mike Schur's approach to his work?

Realizing he was miserable at his job, Schur sought therapy, which helped him become more comfortable and open, leading to better work and the realization that a safe and happy environment is crucial for creative success.

Why did Mike Schur move to Los Angeles, and how did it impact his career and personal life?

Schur moved to LA to be with his then-girlfriend, now wife, JJ, which led to him getting hired on The Office and eventually co-creating and creating successful shows like Parks and Recreation and The Good Place.

How does Mike Schur view the distinction between pure and applied ethics in today's world?

Schur believes that while pure ethics exists, applied ethics is more relevant and necessary due to the urgent and complex problems facing society, which require practical solutions rather than abstract theories.

Chapters
Mike Schur shares his lifelong love for Cheers, explaining how it inspired his career in comedy writing. He discusses his unique approach to collaboration, emphasizing the importance of ego-less teamwork and constant experimentation in the creative process. The conversation also touches upon the creation of The Good Place, highlighting how a seemingly unusual concept was developed into a successful show.
  • Mike Schur's deep admiration for Cheers and its impact on his career
  • His collaborative approach to writing, emphasizing humility and openness to new ideas
  • The development and success of The Good Place, including its surprising twist

Shownotes Transcript

Ted Danson feels a bit strange about interviewing his TV “boss,” showrunner and writer Mike Schur. Of course, you know Mike as the creator of The Good Place and co-creator of shows like Parks and Recreation and Brooklyn Nine-Nine. Mike talks to Ted about pitching The Good Place, how Ted’s role on the show took shape, why Cheers was the first show he cared about, landing his dream job at SNL at 22, and much more.Ted and Mike have teamed up again on a new Netflix comedy series, “A Man on the Inside.” All eight episodes are streaming now:  https://www.netflix.com/title/81677257)

  

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