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Welcome to the WNBA Nation. Welcome back, WNBA Nation.
My name is Kyle Haywood, and it has been a while since I have been with every one of you. I am so excited to be back on this episode with the one and only Logan Jones. How are we doing, Logan? Bro, welcome back. This is so cool. Thanks, man. I'm so used to there being a delay when we sync up the audio and stuff at the beginning. And then we both... We did our clap sync just now. And I was like, that's right. Because we're on the same...
We're on the same Wi-Fi. We're on the same internet. We are literally a couple rooms away from each other. It'd be nice if you didn't work from home and have to have a home office, and I didn't have to have a home office in my own place, and we could just have part of this house be our recording studio.
Like mutually? That would be sweet. Maybe we explore that option. We could maybe make that happen. We could maybe make that happen. We could turn this into a music production podcast room. We could make that happen. We could work something out, I'm sure. Well, Logan...
I am so grateful and excited to be back on the show. It's something that I know you and Steve have been kind of been keeping going for the last little bit. Well, I by no means have I stopped watching women's basketball. Have I been less engaged as far as like my attention? However, we had some conversations earlier.
I basically have taken a huge step back as far as my involvement with the show for the last little while. I am actually getting a master's degree, but that should be finishing up here in just the next couple months, which means that my time starts to free up and I cannot wait to be back on the show more regularly. So I still may be sparse for the next couple months, just giving all you listeners a heads up on that. But yeah,
I couldn't I couldn't miss this one. I couldn't miss this episode, Logan. You know how I feel about WNBA draft. You know how much I love to get engaged with this, how much attention I pay to it. And I couldn't help but be a part of our preview, our WNBA draft preview. Logan.
I mean, we're going to get in and I'm going to give kind of my mock draft and we're going to talk about that a little bit as we get going here. But Logan, as far as excitement for draft prospects, where does this year's draft rank for you compared to other drafts that we've had since our show started?
I really can't remember a better one. That's probably going to sound hyperbolic, but I don't think I've said that other years. In fact, I feel pretty confident that I came off pretty harsh on last year's
draft like preview episode. This really is. And that's not to say that it's going to be the best we ever see for a long, long time, because I think we're going to start getting classes that look like this more and more. But I mean, I think there are four or five players in this draft that would be number ones in the
previous years. Uh, you, right. Obviously you have a clear number one, that's kind of been bearing the weight of college women's basketball on her shoulders, which we talked about in our last episode, like isn't necessarily true, but that's very much the perception of Caitlin Clark going into this draft. Um, but you also have a very accomplished player coming out of Stanford that we've talked a lot about. You have South Carolina graduating their latest phenomenal center into the WNBA. And you have a bunch of other UConn players that we're going to get to as well. Uh,
I'm not trying to spoil anything in the mock draft, but there's so many players that I feel like for two years now, we've been saying there will be a spot for them. They're not going to... There's a lot of really fun college players that make the league and then quickly fizzle. And there's nothing... It's nothing against it. It's a very hard...
league to crack. There's not a lot of roster spots, even with potential expansion on the horizon. This is the first group in what I expect to be two to three years of... We had that weird COVID delay and now name, image, and likeness is keeping girls in college longer and the transfer portal is allowing them to build their brand more and more. I think for the next three drafts, we're going to be looking at an entire first round of just like, that should be a player that makes an impact on your team.
I hope that we don't have any preseason cuts after... You don't want to see your team take someone in this draft and then that player not make the roster the following year. It's happened pretty often in the past and isn't even necessarily a huge scandalous deal. It happens all the time. That's going to happen less and less. You're not going to see Aaliyah Edwards not on a roster in a year.
That's just not going to happen. And she is not the number one overall in this draft. So this is going to be a really fun one. I think WNBA drafts in the past have been defined by who went first. There's kind of a can't-miss prospect in about half of the drafts in the league history where it's like, that's going to change the entire outlook of a franchise. And now I think there's a believable group. I mean, there's...
there's a tier of players that I think you'd be pretty psyched to get in this one. I agree. I am really, really excited about this year's draft. Um, you know, we've had big names, obviously since our show started, we've had names like Asia Wilson, um,
We've had Sabrina Ionescu. We've had a lot of big-time names come through. That Ionescu-Satusabaly draft was a good one. We've had some big names come through. We've had some solid rookie classes. This one, I feel like, is one of the more deep rookie drafts that we've had. This might be the deepest since our show started.
I'm really excited, really, really excited about this rookie draft class. Well, Logan, you do not know what my mock draft looks like. I have not seen it.
I haven't been publishing it as we covered earlier. You've kept it under lock and key. I haven't. It's been fluid. I have a lot of thoughts on these players and where I see them. And, you know, I really, really enjoy doing this. And what's cool about this draft is everybody has the same number one. But if you look beyond that...
Basically, spots 2 through 20 are very fluid. In fact, there's one player that we're going to talk about during this draft that I have seen as high as 6, and I have seen as low as 19. So that gives you kind of an idea of just how...
All of these players can be perceived to go in different areas. Now, I am not an official WNBA scout, nor do I claim to be. However, I do really delve deeply into this. I love watching the college game and the international game and paying attention to prospects and where I think they would fit. A lot of these have to do with where I think they would fit within a team and
And even like personality wise and stylistically, how I think teams could perceive certain players that maybe in a head to head matchup, you might have one player that could, you know, on on paper looks like they're a better player. But maybe L.A. who has the two and the four pick my take on.
Two different players because of the way that, you know, the way that they're interacting there. So I'm excited to, uh, to kind of delve into this. So Logan, let's go ahead and just get started right at the very top. So I bet you can't guess who I have going. Number one. Uh, I was just trying to think of like a name that wasn't Caitlin Clark to be funny, but then I didn't want to like dish on anyone unnecessarily. So yeah, it'd be like, Oh, I'm sure it's, you know, yeah. Angel Reese or something like she's going, she's going number one, should go number one.
Don't get cute with it or overthink it. It's actually kind of nice that the draft is a week after the tournament. So there's not enough time for like, you know how like with the NFL draft, there's too much time between the combine and the draft for people to be like, maybe they're secretly bad. And it's like, no, stop. You don't need content every day. Like just stop. Yeah. No, she's great. She's going to translate to the WNBA. There's a spot for her. I'm sure they're going to roll out the red carpet for her in Indiana. It's going to be sweet.
I agree. I'm excited. Obviously, teams are making adjustments for their arenas that they're playing in. Indiana now has something like 30...
that are going to be nationally broadcast or something like that compared to one that they've got a ton of nationally broadcast games. It's a lot. So Indiana's got a ton of nationally broadcast games. The WNBA is looking to capitalize on this insane media hype that has followed Caitlin Clark and
And so, yeah, it's, we're not going to actually spend a ton of time there. That's, I feel like we're, we're not gonna, we're not going to stick on the quote unquote headline that Clark's going number one. That's a pretty obvious one. She's going to go to Indiana and Aaliyah Boston with Aaliyah Boston and Caitlin Clark back-to-back number one picks those two alone. I think if they stick around in Indiana, Indiana is going to be very formidable for the next several years. They're still pretty young and,
but I do think that Indiana actually for the first time, really, since our show started, Indiana looks like they could be a pretty decent team over the next couple of seasons. I'm really excited to see what happens. They could be a fun team.
But still with the understanding that they had a long way to go to climb out of, you know, the cellar of the league in terms of standings. Now it kind of feels like... A fun team, meaning they were borderline, maybe got a playoff spot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they've got some stuff going on in India. They've made big front office changes. They've made coaching changes. They've drafted well.
I think it does take time and we spent a long time where they were just in the doldrums of like, it's never going to happen. But this is going to be a fun time to be a Fever fan. I love it.
Um, Logan, let's go ahead and hop into, so Los Angeles actually has the number two pick and the number four pick as of today, which is kind of exciting. Got, uh, got some things happening, uh, here the day before the draft. Um, we are recording this, uh, Sunday night, obviously. And, you'll be listening to this Monday before the draft happens. So let's talk LA. All right. Now, uh,
I actually went back and forth a bit on who I thought LA was going to take at number two until I really, you know, basically,
Now that LA's got two and four, now that we're sitting with this, as the draft stands and some of these last-minute draft order changes, LA with two and four, Chicago with three and seven, Dallas has got five and nine. There's a few teams that have two picks. I'm curious what LA's going to do. I think LA is going to go ahead and take Cameron Brink at the number two spot.
out of Stanford. That makes a ton of sense to me. And if I had to put money on Brink or Cardoso, who I think is also in contention to go there, I think Brink is what they're going to do. And I think is the right thing to do at the same time. Having picks two and four is kind of weird because you're like, we have two of the top four picks in the draft. That's awesome. We also have to tell one player, I mean, no one's going to be offended at going number four overall to LA, right?
But you do have to give the Chicago Sky a chance to sneak one of those players away from you. Might not happen. You might get both. But let's say you wanted Brink and Cardoso on the team. You have to pick one and leave the other one available to Chicago for a pick. And it's very interesting. It's a weird dynamic that they have to commit to one player.
And who's going to be more likely available out for him? They obviously have two players that they would prefer to get with those picks, and they run the risk of not getting one of them. So who's the priority? I think you can't go wrong with either one of them, but Brink is such a defensive... As close to a sure thing as a defensive...
like player of the year candidate in the WNBA that you get in the college game. So I know we didn't see a lot of Stanford in the tournament this past March, which is a shame. Um, and the current Brink Vanderveer era at Stanford is ending, which is also a shame. Uh, every team in the league wants Brink on, on their roster. And it's, I think it is the right call in the end. Um,
But it does. It leaves the door open for Chicago. Yeah. Like I said, Brink was not solidified in my number two spot over the last several months. I've had her there at times. I've also pulled her out at times. But again, with LA having the two and the four and the way that the rest of the draft order has kind of shaken out lately, I've got Brink at two because I think LA...
la wants brink and another player and i think the other player is more likely to not be picked up by chicago if that makes sense yeah i think if la goes ahead and and picks this other player first i think brink gets taken by chicago if they pick brink i don't think the other player gets taken by the odds of brink falling to four and then getting her there even more of a value is the they're low
Yeah, exactly. So we're going to go ahead and take Cameron Brink out of Stanford is going to go to L.A. Now, at the number three spot, I really love this player. Chicago, I think, is a great fit for.
who I've got going at my number three spot. And that's Rekia Jackson out of Tennessee. Yes. She is phenomenal. She's such a great player. I really, really get excited every time she's taking the floor. I think she's a perfect fit.
in Chicago. I think she's going to step in and immediately be able to have a role carved out for her. Now, I don't know if she's going to see a starting spot, like game one. A lot of times there's a little bit of acclimation. You know, you maybe play a vet the first couple of games, get her acclimated, but she's the type of player that I can, that if they decided to throw her out game one, I, I'm not going to be surprised if that makes sense. She's shown for several years now,
that she can be consistent, that she can play. And she was, she was a huge element of a Tennessee team who had their ups and downs, but Rekia Jackson is just phenomenal player. I'm really, really excited to see her hopefully in Chicago. I think, I honestly think Chicago is a better fit for her than LA. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that LA tries to take Jackson with either the two or the four pick and,
But I I for Jackson's sake, I think that Chicago is probably a better landing spot for her. Your thoughts on Jackson? Yeah, I could definitely see her there. You've gotten a little bit of a taste of how she handles things.
competition at the next level because Tennessee had a scrimmage against Team USA earlier in the year, which is... The final score doesn't tell much of it. Team USA won by a lot. But Rekia Jackson had a really good game. I think she shot 50%. The game had a game-high 15 points or something like that. Anytime you get a little bit of a pro tryout like that, as well as being a high seed in the tournament, winning program, great athleticism, plays all over the place...
Yeah. If you need... I mean, right now, I think Chicago is looking for like, who's going to help us rebuild an offense? Who can be a core player in our offense for a lot of years to come? This is the direction to go. I don't think they would pass on Brink here if Brink fell to them. I do think... Your thinking is correct in that if a certain center was here, I think they would still take Jackson, but they would at least look that center's way for a second. Yes. I agree. I agree.
Logan, it's interesting. You and I have had some conversations about all of these players. We watched a lot of March Madness together living in the same household. So you and I both know how we feel. And I swear, even though you haven't seen my draft order, and I've kept it from you on purpose so that we could have an episode like this, it's really...
Interesting. It's really telling how well I think you know my takes are on these players because you said earlier... I think we're going to run out of these pretty soon. Probably this pick and maybe one more and then it's going to start being like, I don't know where you're going to go from here. But I think these top four or five are pretty locked in in this order. Right.
I do actually have, especially after the performances in the final four, I've got Camila Cardoso from South Carolina going in at number four to LA. Now, I know some of you immediately are thinking, why in the world would LA take two centers, essentially, two bigs with their two and their four? And I'll tell you exactly why. Because competition...
breeds production. It really does. Not only that, but I think that these two LA is they've got a, they've got a shore up their front court right now. They've got Ashera Stevens. They've got the Erica Hamby. They've got a couple other, you know, players out there. You got Monique Billings is a forward. And then they've got a couple other, I guess, lesser known forwards and centers out there. But,
I don't think that Brink and Cardoso, either one of them will have a necessarily hard time carving out production and playing time on this LA roster as it stands. I think the LA roster has a little bit stronger elements in the guard and wing categories.
Than they do in their bigs. Especially losing. NECA no longer being with LA. Opens up some opportunities there. I really think that. Cardoso and Brink. Could be a really solid one-two punch. We've seen other. Twin tower setups in the WNBA. And a lot of those have been really successful. And so. I really do think that. Cardoso and Brink. Going both to LA. It may be.
It may be a little bit out there for some people, and I know some people have avoided those two both going to L.A. for that reason. I'm actually in the camp of thinking that it's a positive that L.A. actually would be benefited by taking two players who are in a similar position. What are your thoughts on Cardoso also going into L.A. at four? I've seen her a lot lower in a lot of other people's drafts.
I think her Final Four performance showed that she can be absolutely dominant when playing against the very best in the country. And with the very best, she knows how to play with some really solid players. She knows how to play with WNBA talent because she plays in South Carolina, and that's what they have there. And she also knows how to play against...
WNBA talent because she's had to go up against some of the very best bigs in the country because that's who South Carolina also plays. So what are your thoughts on Cardoza going that high? I think when you do a mock draft, you kind of have to operate under what can go right in order for this player to go here. And so it's...
We're kind of splitting hairs because we're talking about a player that could and maybe even should go number four overall. But I do think she's less of a sure bet than Brink in the sense that Brink is the more capable shooter, whereas you're not going to see Cardoso step out onto the elbow and take a 12-foot jumper hardly at all. I think Brink is the best defender in the class. I think Cardoso is...
But I also... She looks like she has the body for it more than anyone. She's 6'7". She played at South Carolina. It feels like she was dominant every time Iowa tried to get any sort of rebound. At the same time, I do think that there's work to be done on both sides of the floor for her. And really, the shooting does make a difference. If you're trying to carve out a role, like you said, playing as a center in this league...
If you're not scoring against the likes of Griner and company, then you better be able to flash some stuff as a rookie on the defensive end that says like, I'm out there to gobble up rebounds, get some easy points at the rim and make life difficult for some of the other bigs in this league. And the other bigs in this league are...
institutions, right? There are players that have been around for a while. So I do think that there is not red flags in Cardozo's game, but maybe more yellow warning flags indicating that it's a higher risk pick. And the reason that I think you don't take her at number two is you can still get her here if you want her. And I do think that she could help a WNBA team and play. I mean, she's an athletic 6'7",
Like, Lady knows how to win. That's my view on her is as far as like physical elements. I actually think when I'm picturing Cameron Brink going against your Tiara McCowens, your Brittany Griners, your Kalani Browns.
like some of these other bigs in the league, you know, with their size, I actually think Cardoso is in an, in an area where she could match up against those in a physical matchup a little bit better than Brink can. Now I think Brink's a little, a little more polished, a little bit has some better instincts as far as defensively and is going to challenge Cardoso.
some of the smaller, quicker players around the rim. But I think Cardoso on a head-to-head matchup with Biggs, I think kind of matches up a little bit better with those. Yeah, I don't mind having Cardoso switch on to players on defense and guard outside. I think she's very versatile if used in that way. I am scared that the first time she goes up against like Jonquil Jones, it gets pushed off the block. She doesn't have the offensive range to do much if she's not able to
impose her will down low, which is really hard to do at the next level. But there is... At some point, we will talk about another player that I will then come back and ask you, like, okay, why... If they take Brink at number two, Cardoso at four, why Cardoso at four and not X player? Because there is one other big in this draft that I think is...
Also, it's like trying to carve out a very early draft pick that I won't say anything else about. No, you're good. You're good. You're good. Because, yeah, no. And I think it's a very fair question for you to ask when we get to that player, because I'm pretty sure I know who you're talking about.
um so let's go into our number five pick this is going to be the dallas wings and their very first pick they actually have another pick coming up at number nine right now um again there there easily could be like in during the draft trades happening there's all of these next 24 hours leading up to the draft the trades could be happening we can only go off of what's
Right. So Dallas has the number five pick. And I actually have a player going here that I can't tell if this is I have to admit, I have a slight bias slash wish that this player goes here. And I and I could justify them getting to this spot. I want to be totally frank. Yeah.
Okay. I want this player to go here. And I don't think that it's out of the realm of possibility. In fact, I think it's highly likely that she could go there. First of all, we're talking about Dallas. So really everything's on the table. They won't draft anybody. I so badly...
want Angel Reese from LSU to join the Dallas Wings. See, I would call that a very un-Dallas-like pick to pick the obvious, like, we need a power forward. She's there. She's a big name. She won a championship. Played at a big school.
announced her draft eligibility in Vogue. Usually Dallas is off drafting someone from Poland that is like, oh, just trust us. We've done our homework and she's the greatest player ever. She's like, I've never heard of her, but I believe you. And sometimes those players have panned out and other times they haven't. Right now, no, I really think that a player like Angel Reese...
going down and being in Dallas actually could fit solid with the Dallas Wings. If you look currently at the Dallas Wings roster, I mean...
The Dallas Wings have, for a long, long time, essentially been Arike Agumbawale and then pairing her with a couple other bigs, right? Now, right now, you still have a couple really solid bigs. You got Kalani Brown, you got your Tierra McCowan, and you've got Satu Sabali, right? Those are kind of like your bigs. Oh, and Natasha Howard, okay? I forgot Natasha Howard was still with Dallas. So you've got four subplots.
solid like bigs angel Reese. I think adds a little bit of an element to that, that you're like, she's not, I feel like the angel Reese could go into Dallas and be that three slash four. I think the angel has the ability to not necessarily only stay down low. I think she's got more outside ability than we saw at LSU. If that makes sense.
When she did have opportunities away from the hoop, she actually has some really solid fluid movements and she doesn't have to rely on being just an inside presence. I could easily see if Dallas wants to go big, you've got a Rike and then you could have, you could easily have Tierra McCowan, Satu Savali and Angel Reese all on the floor at the same time. Then you sub out, right?
you know, McCowan for Natasha Howard. And I still think that, that, uh, that group plays well and good luck getting rebounds with those players on the court. Like this is a really exciting team. A Rike is a volume shooter. And if you've got three players who are, who can bring down boards on the offensive and defensive side of the ball and get you more opportunities to score, uh,
I think that this could work well with Dallas. Now, on the surface level, I do think it would probably be smarter for Dallas to maybe take a guard, but I just so badly want Angel Reese to be a part of this Dallas Wings roster. And why not take someone who not only rebounds, but has potential to be a really good facilitator? Yeah, she's a great passer. Your goal as Dallas right now is to surround Sabli and Enrique with...
players that can get the ball in their hands in good situations. So that actually, not only does that make a lot of sense to me, I, this is the first one where I'm like, I'm not sure if,
I'm thinking about like, do I think Reese is going to go at number five? Maybe. I don't feel confident in it, but this is where people are start going to wonder. They're going to start wondering, okay, if not her, then who? Because is she going to go five, six, seven? We've seen really good college players drop in the draft. And it's not because GMs are out on them or it's not supposed to be an insult or anything like that. But I think the questions will begin at Dallas's pick where it's like,
you better have a good reason for not picking up Reese here because she's, she's there for the taking and like someone will soon. So another element to this, and I know this is, I know that number one, you're trying to win basketball games. Number two, you have to sell tickets. Dallas is not necessarily super far away from Louisiana, right?
All right. LSU to Dallas. Yeah. I'm, it's not right next door, but it's pretty dang close. And I think that, I think that there could be the, like, I think there's a little bit of that, uh, proximity, uh,
Um, her popularity, I think could kind of provide kind of a shot in the arm of interest into a Dallas wings roster and a Dallas wings organization that has seemed to almost get pushed aside. I think a rekay a lot of times is like mentioned and she'll, you know, be the leading scorer in the league, uh,
But it's almost like pushed aside as if they're just not really talked about. Angel Reese going to Dallas, now people are talking Dallas. And I think there's a little bit more media attention that comes to the wings and that could help. I think that's a fair point. Although there's a difference in how much...
much the different franchises of the w value that kind of like that's true and dallas hasn't necessarily dallas and connecticut are probably the bottom two in terms of like we could not totally fair point uh but yeah reese obviously brings a certain swagger and attitude to the team that like brings eyeballs to games that like ultimately matters so i think it's worth keeping an eye on
All right, Logan, let's go into our number six pick out of Washington. For me, this is the most Washington pick that there could be. All right. I think Washington, if they are lucky enough to have this player drop to them, I think this player could easily go in the top five. If this player drops to them, they would be ecstatic. And that's JC Sheldon out of Ohio State. Oh, okay.
I really, really like what JC Sheldon... She's a guard out of Ohio State. I really like what she's got in her bag. I think she could really provide some exciting element to...
Washington right now, Washington is stacked in their, in their front court. They've got a lot of players that, you know, if you just go, if you just go right up the line here, you got my Aisha Heinz, Alan queen egg, Bo Steph, Dolson, Shakira, Austin, Alyssa Canane. You've got like those, that's a lot of bigs, right? And a lot of bigs vying for playing town. Now I understand Della, Don, uh,
It sounds like probably isn't going to be seeing the basketball court, which is really unfortunate and it's, it's really hard to swallow. Right. But when you've got, yeah, I mean, trying to break into the guard ranks here with the Washington mystics, I think is, is a lot easier than what they've gotten their front court. Um,
That being said, I think that JC Sheldon fits well. You've got a scoring guard in JC Sheldon. You've got other guards here with the Mystics, with your Ariel Atkins, your Brittany Sykes, that are defensive and tough, that are a little bit more solid defenders. DeeDee Richards is in that category.
Um, but someone who can light it up from outside is kind of missing. And I really like that JC Sheldon can do that. She's shot over 34% in all four, sorry, from behind the arc, 34% from three in all four seasons in college. Um,
So she can light it up from behind the arc. And I feel like Washington is really desperately missing on a guard that can draw attention from the outside and open things up for that really solid front court. Logan, curious what your thoughts are on Sheldon. I really like that. I thought maybe this would be the Aaliyah Edwards landing spot on your mock draft. But I'm also such a sucker for a 3 and D player.
Like someone who can defend the perimeter and hit it a high clip. Like they are the player that if they have the right attitude and energy can be like the heartbeat of a team.
And they can fit on every team. You can make a case for that player on every team. So, totally makes sense to me. And I am a believer in the talent. I don't dislike this at all. It just means that there's... I mean, it's a deep draft. Like you said, there's players falling in the draft now where I'm like, interesting. Because dominoes start to fall where...
Now, a Minnesota or maybe even a Dallas team that was hoping to get J.C. Sheldon at 8 or 9, out of luck. Maybe got a scramble. But also, Edwards is still out there. There's a couple other talented players that I'm looking at too that maybe could fill that role. But aren't as good a shooter or defender if they're a specialist in one area or another. All of it in one package is hard to come by. I really like J.C. a lot.
All right, let's move on to Chicago and their second pick of this draft. They're there. They have the number three that I had them taking Ricky Jackson at number seven. I think at this point, Chicago for both of their picks, I think that you just take the best player available with the current Chicago sky roster as it stands and
I think you have enough question marks that you just go into this draft saying, let's take, yeah, yes. Take the best player that you can and we will figure out positions later. So even though Rekia Jackson's that forward, I think that you're going to go with another big here and that is the best player available so far. If Reese goes at five, Sheldon goes at six. I think the best player available is Aaliyah Edwards. Yeah, there she is.
I think Chicago would be really fortunate if she dropped to seven. I would not be surprised if someone like L.A. takes Edwards up as high as four or Dallas takes her five. But I feel like Aaliyah Edwards, the reason I didn't have her going to Dallas is because I think that Reese could be could play a little more outside than Edwards can and
And Dallas has like three bigs that are essentially like a pure five, right? In Howard, McCowan, Kalani Brown. And I feel like Edwards is a little bit more close to that pure five spot. And so I feel like Reese could play that four, maybe even down at the three spot.
three spot. So I do have a Lee Edwards dropping to seven and I feel like Chicago, you just got to take best available. Logan, I know you're a pretty big fan of a Lee Edwards. Tell me what you think about her potentially dropping to seven and landing in Chicago. This would be an incredible get for Chicago at seven because I think Edwards is
could go at four, maybe even should go at four. And I have nothing against Cardoso. I think her stock rose a ton during the tournament and rightfully so. But to me, a Brink and Edwards duo makes a lot more sense on the floor together. Um, I also trust Edwards more as a shooter and she's just as versatile of a defender in basically any situation. Um,
You also, I mean, with either one, you get a bump with like, hey, you just went to South Carolina and you had Don Staley as a coach or you had Gino. Either way, you're going to be ready for the pros. Like, that's not really a factor. Like, how well are they going to translate to the pros? I think both of them have a spot. I just think.
This was the player I was going to ask you. Why Cardoso over Edwards at four? Because I think Brink and Edwards makes a lot of sense together if they can get both of them. And you get to extend your range out a little bit because I think Edwards can hit from 10, 15 feet on a regular enough basis that it's a threat. Where Cardoso hasn't really shown that yet. The thing I like about Edwards basically in any landing spot is...
If you're going to draft a big, you kind of want it to be a high floor. Like, right. I don't, I don't know what the ceiling is for any big, maybe, maybe they come in their defensive player that you're every year. Maybe they come in and they get double doubles like crazy, or maybe they just come in and do what you know they can do, but they do it every single night. That's a lead. Like, like she has a ton of potential to do more, but you're not going to blow the pick.
By spending it on her. And that's what Chicago, more than anything, they should be swinging for players that can be part of a core. That they can build around through free agency and acquire some stuff and make things happen. Because that's a team that doesn't like to rebuild for very long. So this is a great landing spot for Edwards because it's just steady, consistent, like Deladon-esque production is everything that you want in a player like this.
So and this is going to be this is going to be in kind of an interesting take the read. Honestly, here's my thinking taking Cardoso over Edwards. Cardoso has been brought up and played against Aaliyah Boston for a couple seasons.
She already knows what it's like to play against one of the very best bigs in the league. She was going against her night in and night out. I don't think Edwards had that same opportunity in practices, if that makes sense. So that's kind of where I feel like Cardoso may not have as big of a shock factor jumping to the league. And that was, honestly, I have these players so even that that's where my mind went was, who do I think might...
make an easier transition into the league and make an impact from day one. I think LA might need a little bit more of an impact from day one and isn't necessarily looking to develop longterm because I think LA may be making some moves in the near future to really put together a team that's going to make a run. And I think Kurt Miller's as a head coach wanting to really get back to those WNBA finals. And I think he's, you know, an LA player,
LA is a destination place where they have kind of a benefit of drawing some free agents there that you don't necessarily see going to a place like Connecticut or even like a Dallas or in Indiana, right? Like those players in free agency location is going to pull them to LA. And I think that Cardoso can come in and make a little bit more of an impact from day one. So that, that was my thought process. But again, if like,
If we're if L.A. ends up taking someone like Aaliyah Edwards at number four, I'm not going to be surprised if that makes sense. Like, I'm not surprised either way. I think that Edwards could easily go as high as like a three. I don't see her going at two, but I could see Edwards at a three or four spot. Probably not going to drop to seven. But as I as I sit right now, I've got her dropping to Chicago. And I think by far the best player available at seven. So Chicago's got to take her there. Yeah, that's a good draft for Chicago.
That would be a great track. Imagine Rekia Jackson and Aaliyah Edwards. You'd feel really solid about it if you're Chicago Sky being like, okay, maybe we actually do have a couple pieces. Considering, I think the shorthand names in this draft you would consider as Clark, Reese, maybe Cardozo is in that mix now, and Brink.
Like if you're just like, Oh, summarize that class for someone who's like more of a casual fan to get two players that aren't those players and still feel like, dude, we got the future of our team in this draft. That's, that's pretty good. Yeah. All right, Logan, Minnesota. Um, this is an interesting pick, but I feel like, I feel like this is maybe the most Cheryl Reeve driven pick that I could come up with. Um,
I would love to see this happen. I would love to see this player continue to develop. And I think Cheryl Reeve sees through a lot of media coverage and we'll look and find that player. I mean, we've seen Cheryl Reeve take someone who was taken 14th and turn them into the, you know, a rookie of the year. So I think Cheryl Reeve as a scout herself is,
could see who I consider to be maybe the most underrated college basketball player in the country this last season. I think Minnesota could go ahead and just take the next UConn player with Nika Mule. I knew that whole lead up. I was like, he's going to say Nika. And it's not that I don't want her to go to Minnesota, but...
Well, first of all, I'll explain. Who do you want her to go to? I would like Nika Mule to go to Dallas at nine. Okay. I think that's fair. Where basically they ask her to do everything except shoot the ball. But it's like handle the ball up the court, pick up the other team's best guard, play defense, get seven assists a game, give the ball to Enrique. I think that'd be a great spot for her. But you're absolutely right. She's going to go to Minnesota and then Minnesota is going to like...
shadow tank for beckers the following year and then they're literally just going to be the minnesota wolves or what the what can i think of you got the huskies the huskies the minnesota huskies i was thinking timber wolves i'm getting my wires crossed here minnesota huskies because you can't because you know if they take nika mule
The talk, whether they take Nico Mule or not, the talk is going to be like, should they make a play for trying to get Beckers in the next draft? Because they're the hometown team and all that. If they take her, it's a great pick. And I wish that we... Like a Scottie Pippen situation is happening right now where it's like, I wish I could just talk about Mule on her own merits as a player because she's great. The second they take her, the discussion changes to like, you know...
You know what they could do. We know this backcourt really works and she's from Minnesota. The page stuff is going to happen so fast. Right. But strictly on Nika Mule's merits, I think she's a first rounder for sure.
She's a really good player who held Caitlin Clark, who's the obvious number one player in this draft, to not a very good night in the final four with everybody watching. That alone, I think, at least confirmed the stock that everybody had been putting in her all along. So she's great. I'm not sad. I have nothing against Minnesota. You were hoping she dropped to Dallas at nine. I thought that would be a good pick for Dallas. And it's not fair that Minnesota reloads so fast.
It's true. It's true. But I really do think that Nika Mule could quietly be the player taken in this draft. Everybody's like, oh yeah, obviously Clark and Brink and Reese and Edwards and Jackson. You've got all these names.
And then Nika mule might come in and have such an immediate impact on her team. Maybe, maybe more so than anybody not named Caitlin Clark. Like I really could see her having like a really big impact. Minnesota is also at a point right now in their franchise where
Like, go ahead and look at the Minnesota roster. I've got a good buddy who was asking me about Minnesota. He and I were having a good talk. He actually is the he's a play by play announcer for the University of Utah women's basketball team. And he and I've been playing basketball together since we were in like second grade. And he and I were talking about Minnesota.
And he was like, dude, let's go through this roster. Let's talk about this. And I said, dude, this roster has more question marks than any team in the league for me right now. I don't know what to think about Minnesota. If Minnesota was not a Cheryl Reeve team, even with Nico Mule drafted, I'd be like, that is not a good looking team. Yeah.
But yeah, this is somehow they will finish within two games of 500. Yeah. Well, you still have you. You've got your Nafisa Collier, right? But like looking at their guard play right now. Yeah. Kayla McBride, which is out at a wing. Courtney Williams. Yeah.
And who else was I just... Oh, Natisha Heidemann. Those two are your guards right now. Williams is an eight-year veteran. Heidemann has at times looked really, really strong. And other times...
kind of disappeared for large stretches of the season. So those are kind of your point guard spots. And if there was a chance for Anika Mule to come in, first of all, learn from a couple vets like those two, and then put her own spin into this Minnesota Lynx, I think it's a great landing spot for Anika. Let's go ahead and move on to our number nine, though. The Dallas Wings again. And at this point, I feel like
uh, Dallas, I think you just go ahead and take your, your best player available. Did we, did we miss a, was that Minnesota at seven? Oh, Chicago was at seven. Oh, Chicago. Yeah. So we got, Oh, my numbers are all screwed up. That's all. Okay. Carry on. You good. All right. Sweet. So we got Dallas at nine and Dallas at nine. We just talked about how kind of loaded their front court was when we were talking about angel Reese, potentially going there. Now, if they don't take a guard like a JC Sheldon or a Nika mule early, uh,
I think you got to take a guard that also can kind of hold her own in a backcourt alongside Arike Agumbawale. And I don't know if there's a player in this draft class that can do that as well as Daisha Fair. I think that she honestly, like quietly, maybe I just said this about Nika Mule, like underrated, but
Fair is one of the most underrated players in this country. Like phenomenal, phenomenal basketball player averaging like 20 points a game for Syracuse can put up big buckets. Um,
athletic. You know, I think she comes in, I think she's only like five, six, five, five. So she's not, she's not particularly tall, but she's quick. She sees the floor well, and she can score in a ton of different ways. She can score attacking the hoop. She's got a decent outside shot. Fair really could be that outside scoring. If people are looking to lock down a Rike, uh,
You can't because you can't leave fair or she's going to knock it down. And so I think she fits well with Dallas. I think you're right in that she had a quieter season and even career than people give her credit for. I think that's high.
Which is not to say... I mean, look. Conventional wisdom always puts together mock drafts before the WNBA draft. And then by pick four, you can pretty much just trash the majority of them. When Kaiser Gondrezik goes and you're like, right, never mind. We have to get Kyle in here for this episode because his is historically very good. But that is... But mine will look drastically different from a lot of other mock drafts. And it's because it just takes one...
The fun in mock drafting is one pick goes different in the first three or four and everything else. It just unfolds in a completely different way. I do think... She's 5'5", and this would be a total offensive only play. This would be a... We're going to get somebody that can go in and provide a spark. I think that could make some sense, but I feel like that would be high for...
I would call it a reach. It feels bad because I don't want to insult any player. That's not what I mean. To me, it would feel like a reach because of some other players that are on the board. But...
I could be underrating her as well. I didn't watch a lot of Syracuse basketball this past year. I just know she's now like the all-time number three, which number three, all time in, in incidentally scoring all the women. She's like, she's phenomenal. She can put up some serious points now. And here's the thing. She's not a rebounding guard.
Particularly, but she led the conference in steals as her senior year. So she's got some decent defense as well, which I think also pairs her well with a re-gay. So she's averaging 20 points a game and leads her conference in steals. That's a solid... I think it's solid.
I really do. I get where other... I get your point as saying that she could be a reach. She's another one. You just ask different people, and a lot of people have fair dropping to the second round. I'm probably higher on her than a lot of other people are. This is also when we were talking about...
like Ricky Jackson and JC Sheldon in terms of someone who can be like great on the perimeter and also like big time scoring threat 3 and D after her
So the twos and threes in this draft, you kind of have to lean into like, what do you want? Because you can go get Charisma Osborne here and get someone who's 5'9". She's another one I consider. But she's not going to shoot versus someone who can dump in 20 points a game and steal the ball a bunch. But she's 5'5", and she's going to get eaten up on defense from time to time. Like you have to pick...
You're poisoned at a certain point with these guards that are remaining even late in the first round where you're still they're still very talented. Again, we're splitting hairs here, but you have to you have to choose which red flag you're more comfortable with. Completely agree.
Completely agree. So she's one. I understand that there's other players that kind of fit a similar mold that Dallas could be looking to go and get. I just feel like if you're pairing someone with a Rike in a backcourt, I think Deja Fair fits that just as well as anybody else.
Does and so I think if I have a different team here, I might have fair drop to like an 1112 But with it being Dallas and I had them taking a big earlier the Dallas is I yeah, Dallas Yeah, it's that Dallas is weird in my I I kind of like it I like I really do think that fair could could surprise some people I think that there's a lot of people that are maybe sleeping on her. Let's go to Connecticut. I
Logan, Connecticut. This is a fun one. Oh, I'm very excited now because Connecticut's the other team that just super doesn't care. Like they do their own scouting and they don't read anybody's mock drafts and they look at every player in every country of the world. So Connecticut right now.
is such an interesting with coach Stephanie white there and who they've got currently on their roster. Making a team is going to be tough for whoever Connecticut takes because they're
They they've got several players, you know, you got your Dewana Bonners, you know, you've got Tiffany Mitchell that's there. Alyssa Thomas, like you've got some of your you've got some really kind of some long term players that have been there. I think at this point, Connecticut has an opportunity to potentially take someone who may not be absolutely ready to
to play right out the gate and potentially stash them until they're ready to come into the Connecticut lineup. And that's why I think Elizabeth Kittley out of Virginia Tech fits this team perfectly. Interesting. Okay. Because you've got your Alyssa Thomas, who is kind of continually changing
dealing with injury issues. Doana Bonner's played in the league for 14 years. She's...
I love Duana Bonner. Yes, yes. But you're right. And so you're looking at players who are getting up there in years in the league. So Bonner, Brianna Jones, and Alyssa Thomas are all... I read this on Yahoo Sports earlier and we were getting ready for the show. They're all... They have basically like one-year deals or they're in the final year of their contracts. The Sun have flexibility when it comes to them to move on from all of them
Like the core of that team will quickly be changing. Yes. And then you look beyond those at who they have as bigs. And it's like Olivia Nelson, a Dota and Stu do like, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's a team that's going to,
Try to kind of turn the page quickly and get back into contention, which is why I had them, by the way, not to bring up stuff that I'm embarrassed about, but I had them ranked really low last year in my preseason predictions because I thought that was coming last year. But the time will come when it's like you got to turn the keys over to somebody new. That's really interesting. There was a player you were asking about in pre-record that I thought might have gone there, but Kittley...
I mean, I said earlier, I'm a sucker for a 3D player. I'm also just a sucker for Virginia Tech. So... As we all know, I love a good VT player. Before tearing her ACL, she averaged 23 and 11 in two blocks. Three-time conference player of the year? Yeah. I want to say something like that. She's really good. Very good. And here's the thing.
I think she's going to drop because of the ACL tear. She's not going to be ready to play this season. So if Connecticut can get her signed and then just stash her, have the ability to take her and then wait for potentially some of these other players that are on these one-year contracts, if that doesn't work out...
Oh man, like play them this season, see what happens, move on if you need to. And then Kittley, you're rehabbing her and she just slides right into that big role. And so I really do. I mean, that's, you listed the three forwards that are all, you know, seven, eight, seven, eight year or seven year, 10 year, 14 year vets in this league that are all on these one-year contracts.
Kit Lee sits out for that one year and then they have so much flexibility for their front court moving forward. Not just sits out, but rehabs. Yeah. Like with the team program, basically like, like they, they can walk her through like, this is what we're going to need from you. This is what we want you to work on. Like that can be her. She's already going to be familiar with all their playbook with exactly how the team runs. And then how quickly could she slide in and,
And just boom, be ready. She's a really interesting Kittley, just isolated from any team who might take her is a really interesting draft pick this year because she has to go to a team that doesn't have an immediate need, but she's six, seven and has proven that she can jam. And the ACL is not the career ender it used to be. So someone like someone's going to take her or she's going to drop and you can maybe like steal Kittley late.
And it's hard to create a roster spot for someone who you know isn't going to contribute and play. But at the same time, the talent is... The ceiling is higher than most players that are going to be sitting at the end of your bench anyway. So she's a really interesting case. Yeah, I think...
I just feel like this Kitley situation makes too much sense in Connecticut. The other teams I could see considering it might be your New Yorks, your Las Vegas. But I feel like Connecticut makes the most sense of all those teams. And they have a pick before New York, before Las Vegas, before any of those. So I think if Kitley's around at 10, Connecticut taking her makes a ton of sense to me.
Because they don't necessarily they don't need someone this upcoming season. And her timeline for recovery just fits so perfectly with what else is going on there in Connecticut. Yeah. All right. New York. This one's this one's interesting because I think New York might be one of those teams that keeps a lot less players on their roster.
um i think phoenix is only keeping 10 i think new york uh vega like you've got some of these teams that have you know some of these bigger name players they're not necessarily going to be keeping all 12 roster spots like you're going to see in some of the other franchises new york is going to be a really tough one and it pains me because i think new york's a really tough roster to make um so
And unfortunately for I think, unfortunately for this player, this is going to be a tough roster to make. But I think that New York, if they're smart, really, really takes a long, hard look and is very cautious before moving away from this player, because if they don't stay in New York, they could go be a real problem on a lot of other franchise teams. And that's charisma. Osborne. There she is. OK. Yeah.
Yep. I really, for years, for years have been a huge fan of everything that Osborne's been doing with UCLA and, and, and just where she's been in throughout her collegiate career. Um, I think that New York makes a lot of sense taking her here, but again, um,
if you're only keeping 10, like we're seeing with some of the other franchises that are, you know, just money wise and, and, and salary cap wise, that's a tough, that's a tough place to go, you know, because you got to go in as a,
you know, as a guard and carve out some time with Courtney Vander Sloot, Sabrina UNESCO, uh, you know, that's a, this is a tough one. You got bent Nijel Lainey, who's kind of that wing player. Um, but just as hard would be them taking a big, I think it makes more sense for them to take guards than it does take bigs because you're sitting on John Quo Jones, uh, Brianna Stewart, um, uh,
Who else was I? I was just thinking, who else did they have there in the big? Oh, the other Sabali, Nyara, Nyara Sabali potentially being there. Like there's some there's some really solid opportunities for New York. And I think that charisma could be.
Someone who could come off the bench and still contribute more than some of these other players that they have on their roster. So I think if Charisma can go to New York, make the cut, I really like her coming off the bench and spelling Van der Sloot and UNESCO. Yeah, she's got good size for a wing. She can maybe serve as the backup ball handler if they need one. Yeah. And just, yeah, like you said...
It's tough. New York does have some needs to fill, but it's tough to say what...
Like they're going to prioritize or if they will continue that same strategy or if maybe they, they will extend their bench because I think that was one of their weaknesses last year when it came down to battling Vegas. But ultimately if they go with a guard, they don't need a guard who can necessarily be the scorer that goes out and gets 30 every night. They've got so many players on that team that can score in so many different ways that you need the ball in Stewie's hands and you need them in Sabrina's hands and Benton Nines' hands and John Quayle's hands. Yeah.
Just go out there, play perimeter defense, be really big and annoying, and then be able to serve as a spark off the bench as a ball handler in a pinch. Translate your game to the next level. Yeah, I could see that totally working. She's a long-time player. I think she played five years at UCLA. So...
Those players I tend to trust a little bit more making the jump to the pros versus someone who came in two or three years, hot shot, makes the leap and then realizes like, oh boy, this is a job now. I think she kind of gets that. So I'm into that.
Solid. All right. Well, I know we're here at about an hour of our show, so we won't keep you all too much longer. I want to wrap up our first round here with the Atlanta Dream Pick. And this is a player I mentioned earlier that I've seen go as high as, I believe, five or six and also drop nearly out of the end of the second round. And that's because this player, at one point, I had in my top six,
And then they really struggled kind of in the back half of the season. I've paid a lot of attention to this team and that's Alyssa Peely out of Utah. Makes sense. I think Atlanta could do well. I think that I think Peely could be one of those where you don't necessarily want to let her drop to the second round. If you can get her late first round, you look at a lot of mock drafts where they were, you know, three months ago, Peely was, uh,
pushing into potentially like busting into those lottery picks. Like she was really coming on strong. Utah had honestly, Utah played last year's champion LSU in the tournament better than anybody else did. They were literally a made free throw away from putting LSU away. I believe in the elite eight. And so like having, um,
And Peely has been just a huge element for that Utah team that has been so good for the last several years. I really like where she's at. She's one that I had a hard time knowing where to put her, but I think that she fits well at this Atlanta pick.
Yeah. Peeley's value comes down to how much a GM values the ability of someone who can play. I think in the WNBA, she's a power forward. I don't think she's going to see much play at center at all. But in college, played center but could step out and hit threes at a 40% clip.
Like that is valuable. There's a place for her somewhere playing basketball to some degree. And why not Atlanta? But you got to move her to power forward because she's probably about six feet tall. Um, and so I enjoyed that. The, the New York post, uh, mock draft said that six foot two is almost surely a fiction. I thought that was a great way of putting that. It's like, yeah, she's not six two. Um, yeah, but,
This is what we were saying earlier about those top four picks are the top four or five-ish because they don't really have any red flags. And if they have yellow flags, you can coach them up and you can ignore them. Peely's offense is unquestionably great. Defensively, at the four, do you want to guard Alyssa Thomas every night?
Not really. That's a great point. That's not something I see her being able to do. So what is her ceiling as a player if defensively she's a liability at the floor? Or can you get her to become more of a conventional four defender and maybe that's not so much of an issue? This is an interesting pick for Atlanta because I think there is room
to develop there because they are still a group that's sort of coming together and forming the future of who that team's going to be for the next three years. Um, but you got to learn fast. Um, I, I hope that she goes, you can't sit back on this one. I hope that she goes somewhere like this where she can get on a roster because I think there's a chance for her to develop into something really cool. I agree. Um,
All right. I want to throw just a couple other names out there to be aware of moving forward. There are three players who are also invited. In addition to the 12 that I have listed, there's three other players that are going to be invited to the draft themselves. So they've got 15 players going to the draft and they're,
As we've seen in the past, always dangerous. There's always at least one always dangerous is sitting around in like the third round and it gets awkward. Um, but those three players are Nadia, Nadia Potch. Um, we watched a bunch of film on her and, uh,
It's hard to know. Basically, all of the announcers are Australian because she plays in the WNBL. And so if our pronunciation isn't perfect, that's the Australian pronunciation. Perhaps, yeah, perhaps American English will change that a little bit. But Nadia Poch is how the...
the Australian, uh, pronunciation there goes, by the way, if you've never watched any of her play, uh, she's the most Connecticut sun player ever. She's, she is 19 years old. It,
extremely athletic. Now her stat sheet's not going to come off the, off the page to you. You're going to be like, why? Like I said, the most Connecticut sun player ever. She could go to, to Dallas at the five spot. And I wouldn't be surprised. Cause I mean, they've done that in the past with other players, right? Like they've picked up those really athletic kind of international young players. They've done that. So that wouldn't surprise me if Dallas did something like that or Connecticut. Right. Um,
Also, Celeste Taylor out of Ohio State, the other guard there in Ohio State, kind of that backcourt pairing that was there with J.C. Sheldon. So watch for Celeste Taylor. Markeisha Davis out of Mississippi. She could be picked up somewhere. One other name I want to bring up is Tyana Jackson. She's not invited, but she could potentially be a fighter.
That sounds so mean. She, she was the player that I've had in the first round a couple times throughout this season. I've had her in that nine through 12 spot, but she didn't show up on the invitee list. She's someone that if you're looking for someone who might go in the first round that isn't on the invitee list, she,
Jackson out of Kansas, like watch for that name. That's my prediction. If I had to pick someone to be a first round pick, that's not in attendance. That's who it's going to be. So there's my bold prediction. Logan, any last parting thoughts before we put a nice bow on this episode and send it out? No, I think you hit all of the players that I really expect to see talked about in the first round or near the first round, which surely means that we're missing something. But I, I really enjoyed the,
I always enjoy going down through this because it's a, it's fun. B like it gives us a little bit of an overview of where every WNBA team is a month before the season starts in terms of, you know, salary cap in terms of need. It's nice to kind of dust off,
Everything that we knew back in like last September and remember like, oh yeah, like Washington Mystics still kind of like, Deladon, are we your team or not? You know, Connecticut didn't get older like we thought they would last year. Are getting older now, we think. You know, there's a couple teams we didn't talk about because they didn't have first round picks today. But this is a good primer, I think. Plus, all these players are really fun.
This is just a cool draft class. This is, this is a fun draft class. And again, so many of these players that I maybe have high, like who knows Cardoso might go fourth. She might go ninth. She might go 11th. Like there, there are, this is such a deep draft class that, you know, it's like you said, if you look right now, if you were to pull up, in fact, I could go through and I can, I'll bet you if I pulled up a whole bunch of different, uh,
mock draft right now you could find elissa peely as high as five you could also see her at the end of the second round like guaranteed you could find that stretch for that one player and she's not the only one i've seen the same thing with osborne i've seen the same thing with mule i've seen the same thing with um uh who was the other one i was thinking um oh fair daisha fair like yeah like
Good luck picking where those players are going. I did my best. Logan, thank you for being my sounding board. And I appreciate you pushing back on a couple of those picks. That was really good. And kind of forcing me to give my reasoning behind these. So that was a great episode. Well, it's been a while since I've been right about something. So I figure I'll make you look good at the draft.
Hey, we'll see, dude. Logan, thanks for the episode, man. This feels so good to be back on. Again, listeners, thank you for always being there. We are excited to have our feedback. We didn't have our podcast feed for the last couple months, and so that's why you weren't really seeing any episodes coming out. We're excited to be back. We've got WNBA Basketball.
Coming right around the corner because the draft is here and then it's cuts and then it's trades and then there's a lot happening. So we're going to be ramping up for that. Watch for more episodes from Logan and Steve in particular and I will hop on as much as I can without...
putting in jeopardy my master's degree finalization graduation date. So I will, I'll be around. We want to shout out Jason as always. Jason is always who does such a great job editing our show and getting things up on the back end there. We know that he's, well, we will have Jason on, I'm sure for a season preview episode, all four of us. I think we've got that scheduled trying to make sure that we have that taking place. So watch for that.
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Sounds good. Well, for WNBA Nation, I'm Kyle Haywood. I'm Logan Jones. And we got you next time.