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How Germany’s defence boost gives it new importance

2025/6/6
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Oliver Moody: 我认为,德国总理梅尔茨在与特朗普的会面中表现出色,这得益于充分的准备和务实的态度。其他欧洲国家的领导人也采取了类似的策略,即为特朗普提供他可以轻松接受的成果,从而成功地与他建立了良好关系。在乌克兰问题上,我直接反驳了特朗普的观点,明确指出俄罗斯是侵略者。这种尊重和坚定的立场似乎对特朗普很有效。此外,德国同意大幅增加国防开支,这对欧洲北约的能力提升具有重要意义。德国国防预算的增加幅度非常大,相当于为欧洲北约增加了一个重要的盟国。德国将优先投资于弹药、防空和远程打击能力。为了实现北约的新能力目标,德国需要大幅增加军队人数,并可能需要重新考虑征兵制度。德国国防开支的分配将在传统装备和人工智能、无人机之间进行权衡。总的来说,德国的军事实力增强将显著改变其在欧洲和北约中的角色。虽然德国将拥有欧盟最大的常规军队,但这带来的影响力和战略目标尚不明确。目前,德国的角色是支持和执行其他国家的倡议,而非主导方向。我相信,随着时间的推移,德国将在国际舞台上发挥更积极的作用。

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Contrary to pre-meeting expectations, Merz's meeting with Trump was deemed successful. Merz's diplomatic preparation and firm yet polite stance on Ukraine appeased Trump, leading to positive outcomes despite Trump's past criticism of Merz and his policies.
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Germany's new chancellor Friedrich Merz thinks his meeting with Donald Trump was a success - despite being one of the president’s more vocal European critics in Europe. It helps that Merz has heeded US calls for more European defence spending. The Times' Berlin correspondent Oliver Moody examines how he won Trump over - and how more military spending gives Germany new importance on the international stage.

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