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Trump’s Ukraine plans cause chaos in Munich

2025/2/14
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Tom Noonan: 作为主持人，我观察到慕尼黑安全会议上美国及其北约盟友似乎步调不一致，官员们正在努力应对这种局面。美国副总统J.D. Vance的言论与特朗普总统及其国防部长Pete Hegseth的建议相矛盾，暗示在某些情况下，美军可能会部署到乌克兰。与此同时，英国首相表示乌克兰加入北约的道路仍然是不可逆转的，这与特朗普和黑格塞斯的说法相悖。这些矛盾的信息导致了混乱和不确定性。 Larissa Brown: 作为《泰晤士报》的国防编辑，我亲身经历了慕尼黑安全会议的混乱。每个人都不知道美国的立场是什么，甚至特朗普声称的俄美官员会晤也无人知晓，有人认为这纯粹是捏造。欧洲人、乌克兰人甚至俄罗斯人都在努力理解特朗普在说什么。美国的立场不明确，一会儿说不会派兵，一会儿又暗示可能派兵，这让欧洲盟友感到担忧，他们担心自己无法在谈判桌上占有一席之地，担心乌克兰的未来受到威胁。欧洲人将特朗普的行为比作绥靖政策，担心普京不会止步于乌克兰，可能入侵其他国家。乌克兰希望获得安全保障，希望美国提供保护，例如空中掩护和导弹系统，以确保俄罗斯不会进一步侵略。

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The Munich Security Conference is in disarray due to conflicting signals from the US regarding its position on Ukraine. Vice President JD Vance's statements contradict those of President Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, creating confusion about the potential deployment of US troops and the overall US approach to the conflict.
  • Conflicting statements from US officials on Ukraine policy causing confusion.
  • Uncertainty about potential US troop deployment.
  • Contradictory statements from Trump, Hegseth, and Vance.
  • Europeans and Ukrainians scrambling to understand the US position.

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Donald Trump’s Vice President JD Vance is the key guest at the first day of the Munich Security Conference, but seems to be contradicting the president on key parts of his Ukraine peace talks with Vladimir Putin. The Times’ Defence Editor Larisa Brown is in Munich, and explains how Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelensky and Europe as a whole are navigating the confusion.

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