We're sunsetting PodQuest on 2025-07-28. Thank you for your support!
Export Podcast Subscriptions
cover of episode The AI Arms Race Is Coming to Rural America

The AI Arms Race Is Coming to Rural America

2025/4/8
logo of podcast WSJ Tech News Briefing

WSJ Tech News Briefing

AI Deep Dive AI Chapters Transcript
People
I
Isabel Busquets
J
Jennifer Hiller
V
Victoria Craig
Topics
Victoria Craig: 我报道了美国科技巨头对人工智能数据中心的巨额投资,以及特朗普总统新关税对这些计划的潜在影响。这些数据中心对人工智能革命至关重要,但关税可能会推高建设成本,对人工智能的未来构成威胁。 Isabel Busquets: 我分析了关税对科技公司建设人工智能数据中心的影响。关税不仅会增加关键芯片的成本,还会增加钢铁等原材料的成本。尽管如此,这些公司为了在人工智能领域保持竞争力,仍然会继续投资建设数据中心。 Jennifer Hiller: 我报道了Meta公司在路易斯安那州霍利里奇镇建设大型数据中心的情况。这个项目为当地带来了就业机会和经济发展,但也带来了一些风险,例如对当地电网的压力,以及Meta公司未来可能撤离的风险。当地居民对这个项目既兴奋又担忧,他们希望这个项目能够真正改善当地居民的生活,而不是仅仅为外来务工人员创造就业机会。 Victoria Craig: 我关注的是人工智能革命对美国农村地区的影响,以及科技公司投资数据中心带来的机遇和挑战。关税对人工智能产业的影响是不可忽视的,它可能影响到科技公司在未来几年的发展规划。 Isabel Busquets: 我深入研究了关税对人工智能数据中心建设成本的影响。关税会影响到数据中心建设所需各种材料的成本,这将对科技公司的投资决策产生影响。虽然这些公司会继续投资,但关税无疑会增加他们的运营成本。 Jennifer Hiller: 我报道了Meta公司在路易斯安那州霍利里奇镇建设大型数据中心对当地社区的影响。这个项目对当地经济发展和就业创造具有重要意义,但同时也带来了一些挑战,例如对当地电网的压力,以及对当地居民就业机会的担忧。当地政府和居民需要做好充分的准备,以应对这些挑战,确保这个项目能够为当地带来可持续的利益。

Deep Dive

Shownotes Transcript

Translations:
中文

The spirit of innovation is deeply ingrained in America, and Google is helping Americans innovate in ways both big and small. The Department of Defense is working with Google to help secure America's digital defense systems, from establishing cloud-based zero-trust solutions to deploying the latest AI technology. This is a new era of American innovation. Find out more at g.co slash American innovation.

Hey, T&B listeners. Before we get started, a heads up. We're going to be asking you a question at the top of each show for the next few weeks. Our goal here at Tech News Briefing is to keep you updated with the latest headlines and trends on all things tech. Now we want to know more about you, what you like about the show, and what more you'd like to be hearing from us.

So our question this week is how important are the latest tech headlines to you? If you're listening on Spotify, look for our poll under the episode description, or you can send us an email to tnb at wsj.com. Now on to the show. Welcome to Tech News Briefing. It's Tuesday, April 8th. I'm Victoria Craig for The Wall Street Journal.

The global AI revolution is relying on roughly a trillion dollars recently pledged by America's tech titans to build mammoth data centers across the U.S. But President Trump's new tariffs could wreak havoc on those plans. Today, we'll look at why some experts see the president's sweeping levies as a tax on the future of artificial intelligence. And we'll take you to a small Louisiana town that is banking on investments in this booming industry to help lift its residents out of poverty.

First, President Trump's decision to slap new tariffs on American trading partners has sent a chill through U.S. tech companies over the past few trading days. Shares in the so-called Magnificent Seven, which include Amazon, Alphabet and Apple, have collectively shed more than $1.5 trillion in market value, while the Nasdaq Composite Index tumbled into bear market territory.

The biggest source of fear for investors has been worries about the ability for tech firms to do business with the rest of the world and access critical components like microchips, which power data centers that are critical to making artificial intelligence platforms work. WSJ Pro reporter Isabel Busquets explains that costs are likely to rise not just for critical chips, but raw materials for those big data center builds, too.

Isabel, a Cato Institute analyst told you that the future of AI is now being taxed.

What exactly does he mean by that? When we think about AI, we think about it as something nebulous. It's software. It runs on the internet. But what's behind AI is a lot of really expensive, complicated hardware. Every time you're using AI, there's a lot of computations happening in a physical data center, which is this large building with tons and tons of servers.

And the type of data center that we need to run AI, essentially, we don't have enough of them yet for the amount of AI that businesses and governments and individuals in this country want to run. So companies like Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Oracle, they're essentially racing to build these new

new AI-optimized data centers. So they'll be able to meet the amount of demand for the amount of AI compute that everyone wants to do. But like with building anything, they're going to require a lot of different materials that come from large, complex supply chains, which in large part rely on other countries. And the issue now is that a lot of the components that they need to build these data centers are

are subject to the tariffs that were announced last week. Things like steel, like the building is made out of steel. Also, there's a ton of things inside the building like sprinkler systems that use steel and electrical equipment. These data centers are now being taxed because of the tariffs. You mentioned the cost committed to building these data centers. Is there a risk that if this tariff fallout continues, if these tariffs do stick, that these lofty data center plans will fall by the wayside?

Based on what I've heard from analysts, for these companies, building these data centers is extremely, extremely important. They're kind of betting their business on the AI future at this point. And so I think for them, cost is less of an issue than maybe for some other businesses who are dealing with tariffs. I think they will spend what they need to spend in order to get these built because it's sort of an imperative for their business to be able to deliver AI. So

I don't think we're necessarily going to see them fall by the wayside. Do we have any idea how some of these big companies are preparing for higher costs or potential tariffs on semiconductors like President Trump hinted last week?

They haven't been super vocal about it yet, and I think that's in part just because everything is so in flux. It's so hard to know exactly how this is going to shake out in the short term and in the long term. But I'm not sure it'll impact their plans for building for this year. I think a lot of those plans are already in motion. I think they've already secured a lot of those materials already.

But long term, the idea is hopefully doing more manufacturing in the U.S. But these companies have such large, complex global supply chains, and that's just not something that changes overnight or potentially ever. That was Isabel Busquets, a reporter who covers tech and AI for WSJ Pro.

Coming up, small-town America has been willing to welcome high-dollar investments from tech companies in the global AI race. We'll take you to one Louisiana town, depending on Big Tech's big bucks, after the break. Business taxes. We're stressing about all the time and all the money you spent on your taxes. This is my bill?

A corner of rural Louisiana has been passed over time and again when companies have gone looking for places to build manufacturing facilities. But

But now, the artificial intelligence boom has sparked interest in areas with lots of land and power infrastructure that can be used for data farms that fuel the world's machine learning systems. WSJ reporter Jennifer Hiller visited a small town in Louisiana where Facebook parent company Meta has pledged to spend $10 billion building a new data center. For a town where a quarter of its 2,000 residents live in poverty, Meta's arrival offers enormous rewards and

and risks. Jennifer, tell us about Holly Ridge, Louisiana. So Holly Ridge is a small and incorporated community in Richland Parish, Louisiana. It's in the northeast part of the state. It's a farming community. This is a real rural place that's about 45 miles from the Mississippi River and small community, but lots of land, lots of big transmission lines.

and access to natural gas. And those are the things that the tech companies need these days for their big data centers. And the state has done quite a lot to convince Meta that it's the right place for their next data center.

Absolutely. Louisiana has been peddling this farmland for almost 20 years now. They were originally trying to attract some kind of big manufacturing facility like an auto plant. And, you know, the community came in second place a number of times over the years for auto plants. And

And this data center opportunity came up and the state legislature last year passed a bill that allows sales tax exemption for data center equipment. That is a real common incentive available in probably about half the states across the country. Anywhere that has a large data center market usually has that incentive in place. So Louisiana did that.

and worked with Utility Entergy, which is going to be supplying power, to come up with a plan for this site and also kind of helped Meta match up with a local landowner that had more land because they needed even more space.

And that's what I want our listeners to really understand is the size of this data center campus that Meta has plans to build. Can you just give us a sense of the scale? Yeah, it's just absolutely enormous. It's probably a mile wide and about five miles long. And when you're driving along it, it just seemingly goes on forever. But the facility that Meta is building will be about four million square feet. The project's going to cost about $10 billion.

So it's roughly the size of 70 football fields. Mark Zuckerberg shared a site image of it overlaid on top of Manhattan a few months ago, and it covers a good chunk of Manhattan. I'm wondering, how do people in the town feel about welcoming Metta? One of the biggest benefits is probably in employment. Yes, there's going to be a lot of construction jobs that come with this. They will literally have thousands of construction workers on site.

So people are excited about this project. They're a little nervous about it, too, because they are hoping that local people get jobs and that this isn't just construction workers that come in from other areas and are around for a while and then go back home. They are hopeful that

Local people will be able to get jobs both for the construction companies that are working on the site and for META trying to do job training and things like that with the local community colleges. What about worries about the strain on the power grid and jobs?

Meta's agreement for how long it plans to stay in this area. Are there worries about what happens if it's just a medium term thing? The concern across a lot of Louisiana about this project is coming essentially from other utility customers. It will require a huge amount of power. Entergy is the utility operator.

And it's Louisiana business wants to build about $3 billion in natural gas plants. There's also going to need to be transmission upgrades and substations and things like that built. So they have a 15 year agreement to sell power to Meta. And the concern that you hear from other residential or

business customers in Louisiana is that they're simply trying to understand the risk and they are concerned about the risk because a gas plant is something that lasts for 40 or 50 years. And so if Meta doesn't need as much power in 15 years or decides to go somewhere else, those costs would still need to be paid for and those would go to other customers in Louisiana.

And this town in Louisiana isn't the first in America's heartland to sort of change tactics from a focus on farming, maybe manufacturing, and then now to AI and big tech. You also have an exclusive story on Homer City, Pennsylvania, that's making way for a data center campus of its own.

Yes, and that one is at an old coal plant that closed down a couple of years ago. And a few weeks ago, they imploded it. And the plan at that site in Homer City is to build what would be

basically become the largest natural gas fired power plant in the country. And to have a tech company, or I guess it could be a couple of companies, they haven't ironed out all the commercial arrangements, and we don't know who the customer is going to be yet. But you could have a data center or maybe multiple data centers built on that same property.

That was WSJ's Jennifer Hiller. And that's it for Tech News Briefing. Today's show was produced by Jess Jupiter with supervising producer Matthew Walls. I'm Victoria Craig for The Wall Street Journal. We'll be back this afternoon with TNB Tech Minute. Thanks for listening.