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U.S. Tariffs Stay in Place as Appeals Court Puts On Hold Earlier Ruling

2025/5/29
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Alex Osola: 我主持了本期节目,讨论了美国上诉法院暂停一项裁决,该裁决推翻了特朗普总统的关税,以及这一事件对特朗普贸易议程和全球贸易的影响。 我采访了多位专家,分析了法院裁决的细节、对不同关税类型的影响,以及特朗普政府可能采取的应对措施。 此外,我还报道了美联储主席鲍威尔与特朗普总统的会面,以及Meta与Anduril合作开发美国军队高科技VR/AR头显的新闻。 Gavin Bade: 我是华尔街日报的贸易和经济政策记者,我解释了哪些关税受到法院裁决的影响,哪些没有受到影响。 法院裁决使特朗普政府依据《国际紧急经济权力法》实施的关税失效,但依据232条款实施的国家安全关税仍然有效。 尽管法院裁决削弱了美国在贸易谈判中的杠杆作用,但各国仍然有理由与美国进行谈判,因为美国政府可能采取其他措施来实施关税。 特朗普政府正在探索其他法律途径来维持关税,例如1974年贸易法案第122条和1930年关税法案第338条。 Jess Braven: 我是华尔街日报的记者,我分析了最高法院可能对关税案的裁决。 最高法院的裁决将具有约束力,影响所有法院。 贸易法院的裁决援引了最高法院最近的一些判例,这些判例限制了政府的权力,这表明法院正在限制政府的权力。 这个案例将法律、政治和经济紧密联系在一起,法院的行动将影响市场和全球贸易政策。 Heather Somerville: 我是华尔街日报的科技和国家安全记者,我报道了Meta与Anduril合作开发美国军队高科技VR/AR头显的新闻。 如果Meta赢得合同,这将是Meta与美国军方最重要的合作,并为Meta开辟一个新的业务线。 这反映了近年来硅谷在拥抱国家安全工作和为国防部工作的转变。

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An appeals court temporarily allows President Trump's tariffs to remain in place. Plus, what yesterday's ruling that voided the tariffs could mean for Trump's trade agenda. What's remarkable about this case is that it really ties in law, politics, and economics are all here inextricably tied. And what the courts do is going to affect the way the markets and the way that trade policy is seen around the world. And President Trump tells Fed Chair Jerome Powell he's making a mistake by not lowering interest rates.

It's Thursday, May 29th. I'm Alex Osola for The Wall Street Journal. This is the PM edition of What's News, the top headlines and business stories that move the world today.

President Trump's tariffs are to stay in place for now. In a brief order this afternoon, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit said it was pausing yesterday's decision from the Court of International Trade, which, as you heard in this morning's show, ruled that President Trump didn't have the authority to impose sweeping tariffs on virtually every nation until it could hear further legal arguments.

The pause comes as the Trump administration scrambled in search of a stay on the ruling, saying it would take the matter to the Supreme Court before the end of the week if necessary.

In a briefing at the White House this afternoon, Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt said the trade court's ruling was part of a, quote, dangerous trend of judges interfering with the president's decisions. These judges are threatening to undermine the credibility of the United States on the world stage. The administration has already filed an emergency motion for a stay pending appeal and an immediate administrative stay to strike down this egregious decision.

But ultimately, the Supreme Court must put an end to this for the sake of our Constitution and our country. For more on what the court ruling could mean for Trump's trade agenda, I'm joined by trade and economic policy reporter Gavin Bade. So Gavin, which tariffs are affected by the Court of International Trade's ruling and which ones aren't?

Basically, what we're talking about are two broad swaths of tariffs here for the Trump administration. The first is all of those so-called reciprocal tariffs that he promulgated on so-called Liberation Day. Those were invalidated by this ruling, right? And the second is the tariffs that were based on the fentanyl trade, on fentanyl smuggling. That was on Canada, Mexico, and China. Both sets of those tariffs were invalidated.

were promulgated under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, and Trump said that that gave him the power to do these global tariffs, and the court said, no, it does not.

And what are the tariffs that aren't affected by this? So there are the so-called Section 232. These are national security tariffs on individual industrial sectors. So the steel and aluminum tariffs, the automotive tariffs, the tariffs that are coming down the pike on semiconductors, on lumber, on things like that. So those sector-specific tariffs, that's a totally different legal authority. They were not part of this at all. They remain in effect.

Of course, trade negotiations are still going on, right? So Canada and China have welcomed the court's ruling. The UK, which was the first country to strike a deal with the US, has had a more sort of wait and see approach. Why would any country negotiate with the US right now?

There's a couple reasons. The first is that the administration has pledged to, if they can't do tariffs under this authority, they will find other authorities to impose their tariffs. The second one is that those national security tariffs, the sectoral tariffs that we talked about, are still in place. And a lot of countries would love to negotiate their way out of that as well. So there are still things to talk about here. It does undermine a little bit of the U.S. leverage here. That's what the Trump administration said yesterday.

in their filing for the emergency stay on the Court of International Trade decision. They said that that decision severely undermines their negotiating position, undermines their leverage, and that's why they need an immediate stay. Then you saw Kevin Hassett and others on television today saying,

Nothing has changed. Conversations continue. We're still talking to world leaders. So obviously, there's a little bit of tailoring the message for the audience there. But I would say the talks are still on, but they're certainly affected by these latest court decisions. So if the trade court ruling is upheld...

Would that then be the end of Trump's trade agenda? Could he use other legal ways to keep tariffs in place? Certainly not the end. They are actively exploring other options to keep these in place. One interesting option on the table is kind of a twofer, right? There's a section of the Trade Act of 1974 called Section 122, and that actually allows you to impose up to 15 percent tariffs for up to 150 days on countries that have

persistent balance of payment issues with the United States, things like the trade deficit that Trump was trying to solve with all these reciprocal tariffs. Now, the Court of International Trade actually name-checked that section in their opinion and basically said, you should have done this in the first place.

without saying that explicitly. We could see the Trump administration do that. Now, that would allow them to impose tariffs immediately without like an investigation. That's one idea under consideration. There are others as well, expanding their use of national security tariffs. That's something they could do. They could also use what's called Section 338, which dates all the way back to 1930 and the Tariff Act then.

and actually gives very broad tariff authority for the country to counteract unfair foreign trade practices as well. So there's a lot of different options for them to do this. They initially chose the kind of boldest, fastest, and riskiest strategy, and we're seeing that that risk diminishes

didn't necessarily pay off here, but there are a lot of options for them to continue. That was Wall Street Journal reporter Gavin Bade. Thank you, Gavin. Thanks, Alex. We heard how the administration plans to oppose the trade court's ruling all the way to the Supreme Court. WSJ's Jess Braven explains what a potential Supreme Court ruling would mean.

Even when you have lower courts that issue narrower injunctions or injunctions that apply only to the individual parties, if the Supreme Court makes a ruling on what the law requires, then all courts are going to have to follow it. And that's not in dispute on the tariff thing. Certainly, we don't know how the Supreme Court would rule. But it is interesting that the Court of International Trade did cite a number of recent Supreme Court decisions that limited the Biden administration's power to

to do a number of things like involving student debt or COVID relief and so forth. And similarly, this trade court in New York said that the Trump administration also exceeded its power under these federal statutes. So it is basically some anti-regulatory precedents that came recently from the U.S. Supreme Court are now, for now at least, restricting the Trump administration just like they did the Biden administration before that.

What's remarkable about this case is that it really ties in law, politics, and economics are all here inextricably tied. And what the courts do is going to affect the way the markets and the way that trade policy is seen around the world. So it'll be fascinating to see the interrelations between these different fields of coverage.

Wall Street took the latest tariff news with a grain of salt. Investors were initially enthusiastic after the trade court struck down President Trump's most sweeping tariffs. But by this afternoon, stocks had paired gains. In the end, major U.S. indexes closed higher for the day. The Dow was up about 0.3 percent, and the S&P 500 and the Nasdaq both rose roughly 0.4 percent.

New data from the Labor Department showed that more people newly filed for unemployment claims last week, a larger uptick than economists expected, but one that still kept the claims tally within its recent range. And revised data from the Commerce Department indicated that underlying demand in the U.S. economy grew 2.5 percent in the first quarter, less than previously thought.

Inflationary pressures were also firm. The PCE, or Personal Consumption Expenditures Price Index, rose at an unrevised 3.6% annual rate, up from 2.4% in the previous quarter. Coming up, we've got the rest of the day's news, including how Meta is getting into the defense business. That's after the break. ♪

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The Fed said that Powell didn't discuss his specific expectations for monetary policy. He did stress that policy decisions, such as the path of interest rates, would depend on economic data.

And Tim Leisner, a disgraced former Goldman Sachs banker turned government cooperator, has been sentenced to two years in prison for his role in the looting of billions of dollars from a Malaysian sovereign wealth fund. The Wall Street Journal recently reported that, according to a person familiar with the matter, Malaysia is seeking to extradite Leisner and has since engaged with the Justice Department about its request.

Meta Platforms and Andrel Industries, the defense company headed by Palmer Luckey, are teaming up to build high-tech headsets for the U.S. Army. The line of helmets, glasses, and other wearables will carry sensors that enhance soldiers' hearing and vision, helping them detect drones flying miles away or sighting hidden targets, for instance. Meta and Andrel have jointly bid on an Army contract for VR hardware devices worth up to about $100 million.

Heather Somerville, who covers technology and national security for The Wall Street Journal, says that for Facebook and Instagram parent Meta, this could be a big move for its business. Should Meta with Anderle win this contract to develop virtual reality headsets for the Army, it would be the most significant tie-up that Meta will have had with the U.S. military. And a contract that could be potentially $100 million worth

to build tech for the US Army would create very different and potentially significant new line of business for Meta, which remember was at its heart a social media company that makes its profit from online advertising. And it's really one of the most striking examples as of late of

of how far Silicon Valley has come in recent years in embracing national security work and being willing and enthusiastic about working for the Defense Department. This was not the case not that long ago. And for a company the size of Meta to now be getting into building hardware for the Army is just a striking indication of the evolution of big tech.

And that's what's news for this Thursday afternoon. Today's show was produced by Anthony Bansi and Pierre Bien-Aimé with supervising producer Michael Cosmedes. I'm Alex Osola for The Wall Street Journal. We'll be back with a new show tomorrow morning. Thanks for listening.