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‘Businesses Don’t Like Uncertainty’: How Cisco Is Navigating AI and Trump 2.0

2025/3/21
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Chuck Robbins: 我认为企业最不希望看到的就是不确定性,尤其是在关税等方面。总的来说,企业界对政府的积极性依然存在,政府也正在与企业界进行互动,这是一件好事。 思科的成功并非完全依赖于人工智能,我们还在企业网络和安全领域取得了强劲增长。我们为互联网提供底层连接,如果没有思科,大多数科技公司都无法运作。简单来说,我们连接GPU和全球企业网络,确保互联网的日常运行。 我们在AI领域的成功,得益于我们自己设计的芯片、更快的行动速度以及对大趋势的把握。这让我们避免了在云计算领域犯下的错误。我们最初在云计算领域失败,是因为当时普遍认为企业不再需要网络,而且我们缺乏合适的云计算基础设施产品。 企业在AI应用方面面临三大挑战:识别高价值用例、确保数据安全以及人才匮乏。当前AI基础设施建设与.com泡沫时期不同,如今是由拥有高现金流和高盈利能力的大公司主导,风险更低。 对大型语言模型(LLM)玩家的误解在于认为他们只做训练,不进行后续开发;实际上他们会持续向上发展,并提供多种定价模式。早期的AI代理应用需要人工监督,但随着时间的推移,人类可以逐渐放权给AI处理某些任务。AI不会取代程序员,而是增强他们的能力,从而提高效率。 大型组织总是需要提高效率,这可以通过蛮力或数据分析两种方式实现,没有绝对的对错之分。面对特朗普政府,企业领导者需要保持灵活,积极参与,并与政府就税收立法等问题进行合作。 AI监管需要在保障安全和维护美国领导地位之间取得平衡,并借鉴社交媒体监管的经验教训。思科保持领先地位的关键在于定制化客户参与模式和团队的创新精神。 Christopher Mims: 企业在AI应用方面面临三大挑战:识别高价值用例、确保数据安全以及人才匮乏。 Tim Higgins: 当前AI基础设施建设与.com泡沫时期不同,如今是由拥有高现金流和高盈利能力的大公司主导,风险更低。

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Chuck Robbins, Cisco CEO, shares his insights on navigating uncertainty in business, drawing parallels between his sports experience and leadership. He discusses the importance of teamwork, competitiveness, and adapting to change.
  • Importance of teamwork and competitiveness in leadership
  • Cisco's strong growth across networking and security portfolios
  • Robbins's experience playing basketball with Michael Jordan

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Few people sit at the nexus of business and politics like Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins. As head of a company that makes much of the infrastructure underlying the internet and artificial intelligence systems), and as chairman of the lobbying group Business Roundtable), Robbins has a unique perspective on the rapid changes facing both Silicon Valley and Washington, D.C. How is he navigating this moment? And what lessons did he learn from playing basketball with an all-time legend? Robbins speaks to WSJ’s Christopher Mims) and Tim Higgins) on the Bold Names podcast. 

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