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Episode 1601 - Justin Kurzel

2024/12/19
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Marc Maron: 我在库泽尔的电影《The Order》中饰演了被暗杀的电台主持人Alan Berg,这是一个虽然戏份不多,但却至关重要的角色。库泽尔是一位极具天赋的导演,他的电影风格独特,富有诗意和黑暗感,善于运用澳大利亚的自然景观。他的其他作品,例如《雪镇谋杀案》和《Nitram》,也同样令人印象深刻,展现了对犯罪心理和社会问题的深刻探讨。 我与库泽尔讨论了他在电影中对人物的刻画,以及他如何选择演员。库泽尔表示,他选择我饰演Alan Berg是因为被我的播客所吸引,并认为我的声音和性格适合这个角色。他还谈到了他对Alan Berg这个人物的理解,以及他对社会中极端主义和暴力的担忧。我们还讨论了《The Order》的主题,以及它在当今社会背景下的意义。库泽尔认为,这部电影的主题在拍摄和上映后变得更加尖锐,尤其是在美国大选之后。 我们还谈到了库泽尔的其他电影,例如《雪镇谋杀案》和《Nitram》。库泽尔解释了他对那些进入社区并默默影响他人,最终导致社会动荡的人物很感兴趣。他谈到了在拍摄《雪镇谋杀案》时,如何让演员融入角色,以及如何展现人物的人性。他还谈到了在拍摄《Nitram》时,如何刻画主人公的孤立以及他与父母之间绝望的关系。库泽尔表示,他拍摄这部电影是因为他对主人公的孤立以及他与父母之间绝望的关系感兴趣。 我们还讨论了澳大利亚电影的独特风格,以及澳大利亚电影中经常出现的黑暗主题。库泽尔认为,澳大利亚电影中存在一种独特的氛围,它既美丽又具有威胁性,这种氛围与家庭、家庭暴力和隐藏的危险有关。他还谈到了澳大利亚电影的历史,以及澳大利亚电影中经常出现的犯罪和暴力主题。 Justin Kurzel: 我选择Marc Maron饰演Alan Berg是因为被他的播客所吸引,并认为他的声音和性格适合这个角色。我对Alan Berg的故事很感兴趣,虽然资料有限,但我被其作为目标的孤独声音所吸引。电影《The Order》的主题在拍摄和上映后变得更加尖锐,尤其是在美国大选之后。我对那些进入社区并默默影响他人,最终导致社会动荡的人物很感兴趣。在拍摄《雪镇谋杀案》时,我让演员融入当地社区生活,并努力展现人物的人性。在拍摄《Nitram》时,我关注的是主人公的孤立以及他与父母之间绝望的关系。我对主人公的孤立以及他与父母之间绝望的关系感兴趣。澳大利亚电影中存在一种独特的氛围,它既美丽又具有威胁性,这种氛围与家庭、家庭暴力和隐藏的危险有关。我对《Turner Diaries》及其对反犹太主义情绪的影响很感兴趣。我接下来想拍摄一部关于“燃烧彩虹大麻节”的电影。

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Why did Justin Kurzel choose Marc Maron to play Alan Berg in The Order?

Justin Kurzel was captivated by Marc Maron's podcast, particularly a conversation with Louis C.K., where Maron was trying to work through his issues. This authenticity and the way Maron's voice could narrate throughout the film made him the perfect choice for Alan Berg.

Why was Justin Kurzel hesitant to direct 'Nitram'?

Kurzel was hesitant because the subject matter of the Port Arthur massacre is highly sensitive and taboo in Tasmania. The prime minister even spoke against it in parliament, fearing it might be a horror film or that revisiting such a tragic event would be inappropriate.

Why did Justin Kurzel find the character of John Bunting in 'Snowtown' unique?

John Bunting was unique because he was a social psychopath, unlike the typical reclusive serial killers. The FBI studied him for his ability to integrate into and manipulate a community, which fascinated Kurzel and informed his directing approach.

Why did Justin Kurzel approach 'The Order' differently from his other films?

The Order was more structured and beat-driven, like a classic American procedural. Kurzel wanted to explore a different genre and tone, finding it exhilarating to work with the conventional narrative while still maintaining a character-driven approach.

Why does Justin Kurzel think Ned Kelly is a significant figure in Australian culture?

Ned Kelly is a mythic outlaw who created a rebellion and wore a suit of armor, becoming a legendary and controversial figure. His story has been retold numerous times and has become a symbol of Australian identity, often romanticized in films, literature, and even as a tourist attraction.

Why does Justin Kurzel want to make 'Burning Rainbow Farm' next?

Kurzel is interested in 'Burning Rainbow Farm' because it's a true story about two men who organized a large marijuana festival and were involved in a tragic siege after their child was taken away. The film explores themes of love, community, and the challenges faced by LGBTQ+ individuals in small towns.

Why does Justin Kurzel think Australian films have a sense of menace?

Kurzel believes that the Australian landscape, history, and the presence of a dark underbelly, including past convicts, genocide, and ongoing social issues, contribute to the menace in Australian films. This history and the isolation of small communities often foster a sense of unease and tension.

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Marc Maron discusses his cameo in the Bruce Springsteen film, "Deliver Me from Nowhere," his interactions with Bruce Springsteen and other cast members, and his upcoming tour dates.
  • Marc Maron has a cameo role in the Bruce Springsteen film "Deliver Me from Nowhere."
  • He's been filming at the Power Station in New York.
  • He's interacting with Bruce Springsteen, Jeremy Strong, and Paul Walter Hauser on set.
  • His upcoming tour starts in January 2025.

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Filmmaker Justin Kurzel is drawn to stories about outlaws and outsiders. Growing up in South Australia and living in Tasmania, he’s seen the fragile nature of small communities and the people who can prompt societal upheaval. Justin talks with Marc about his new and very relevant film The Order and why Justin was compelled to cast Marc as an assassinated radio host. They also talk about Justin’s other films, including one that the Prime Minister of Australia said shouldn’t be made. Sign up here for WTF+ to get the full show archives and weekly bonus material! https://plus.acast.com/s/wtf-with-marc-maron-podcast).

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