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48、串台投资实战派David:“投资审美”很好是什么样的一种感觉?

2024/12/30
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周鑫:我的投资方法论核心是价值投资,即股票价值是未来现金流的折现。我更加注重公司审美,聚焦于深度研究和持续跟踪高质量公司,并考虑安全边际和估值。我构建了一个包含全球50家顶级公司的投资组合,这些公司具有极高的标准和持续的增长潜力。我关注公司EPS增长,对于普通公司则关注基本面强烈改善的情况。不同类型的公司需要不同的跟踪频率,品牌消费品跟踪频率可以较低,高科技公司则需要高频跟踪。 我根据对公司未来EPS增长的确定性把握来计算预期回报率,并与其他公司进行比较。在组合管理中,大部分持仓是能够清晰算出预期收益的高质量公司,也包含一些基本面改善的公司和交易性机会。我关注企业的生命周期,不同生命周期对应不同的估值方法,例如在成长期早期,PE估值法可能无效。投资顶级公司,重点是关注其是否变得更强大,即使短期盈利能力有变化,只要它在变得更强大,其强大的速度就能够抵消估值波动。 判断EPS趋势需要结合宏观经济和产业趋势,优秀公司的EPS测算执行度会更高。宏观经济方面,我认为中国经济长期增速下降到2%-3%是一个确定性事件,但中国和美国作为超大规模经济体,仍能挖掘微观机会。我主要关注大消费、大科技和大周期这三个行业,并会参考日本等国家在消费降级时的经验来寻找投资机会。 对于投资者,建议了解基金的风格,例如高质量公司、产业趋势、成长股或红利股等,并了解基金在什么情况下会吃亏,什么情况下会亏钱。提高投资审美,对风险有更深的认知,才能在市场中获得更好的收益。 燕妮:作为主持人,我主要对周鑫老师的投资方法论和框架进行了提问和探讨,并从投资者的角度提出了一些问题,例如如何判断EPS趋势、如何选择高质量公司、如何看待消费降级等。

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What is the core principle of David's investment methodology?

The core principle is the first principle of investment, which is that the value of a stock is the discounted future cash flow. This approach is aligned with the philosophies of Warren Buffett, Charlie Munger, and Duan Yongping.

How does David define a 'top-tier' company in his investment strategy?

A top-tier company is one that is globally recognized for its excellence, with a high barrier to entry and deep moats. These companies are typically leaders in their industries, such as Apple, Costco, and TSMC, and account for less than 3% of the total companies in the market.

What is the 'Global Elite 50 Club' in David's investment strategy?

The 'Global Elite 50 Club' refers to a portfolio of 50 of the world's most elite companies, selected based on their global leadership, strong business models, and high growth potential. Examples include Apple, Costco, and TSMC.

Why does David emphasize the importance of EPS growth in his investment strategy?

EPS growth is crucial because it reflects a company's profitability and future potential. David focuses on companies with high EPS growth confidence, especially industry leaders, as they are more likely to deliver consistent returns.

How does David differentiate between top-tier and lower-tier companies in his investment approach?

Top-tier companies have high barriers to entry, deep moats, and strong business models, making them more resilient and capable of maintaining or increasing their value. Lower-tier companies require significant fundamental improvements to be considered, such as moving from a 20% to a 50% improvement in their business fundamentals.

What role does valuation play in David's investment decisions?

Valuation is critical in determining whether a company is worth investing in. David compares the valuation of top-tier companies to ensure their expected returns are significantly higher than their peers. For example, he evaluates whether a company like Anta Sports offers a better return than Kweichow Moutai based on their respective valuations and growth prospects.

How does David incorporate macroeconomic factors into his EPS calculations?

David considers macroeconomic factors as a primary input in his EPS calculations. For instance, he adjusts the expected growth rates of companies like Meituan and Kweichow Moutai based on macroeconomic conditions, such as consumer confidence and overall economic trends.

What is David's approach to investing in companies during different stages of their lifecycle?

David invests in companies at various lifecycle stages, using different valuation methods for each. For example, he focuses on cash flow and capital allocation for growth-stage companies like Amazon, while using traditional PE valuation for mature companies like Apple.

How does David manage his investment portfolio to balance risk and return?

David's portfolio is balanced with a focus on high-quality companies that meet his stringent criteria. He also allocates a smaller portion to turnaround or thematic opportunities, ensuring diversification while maintaining a core focus on top-tier companies.

What advice does David offer to new investors based on his experience?

David advises new investors to understand the style and strategy of the funds they invest in, including whether they focus on quality, growth, or thematic opportunities. He also recommends staying informed about key industry trends and avoiding over-reliance on overly optimistic company narratives.

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本节探讨了David投资方法论的演变,从最初的价值投资到更加注重公司审美,强调聚焦顶级公司深度研究的重要性。他分享了精选全球50家顶级公司的投资策略,以及如何选择和持续跟踪这些公司。
  • 投资方法论迭代:从价值投资到公司审美
  • 聚焦顶级公司深度研究
  • 精选全球50家顶级公司投资策略
  • 持续跟踪顶级公司

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前阵子看到有大V又说了,做投资的不要做自媒体,做自媒体的不要做投资。投资和教人投资,是个看似差不多但却有很大不同的两件事。

最近我去拜访了“投资实战派”播客的两位主理人。他们一边管着私募,一边做着播客,常常和投资者交流、带投资者去实地调研。他们的播客十分硬核,普通人听了可能会睡着,但是据说有不少基金、券商的投研人士都很爱收听。一档严肃且垂直的投资播客无疑了。

因为我过往常常做基金经理访谈,这次也以访谈者的身份,和基金经理周鑫聊了聊他的“开源投资系统”——聚焦、高质量、开源,是他投资策略的关键字。是否现在还聊价值投资有些不合时宜?所谓的提升投资审美到底如何去做?永辉超市的逻辑又如何和现有体系自洽?在本期节目中,周鑫会有详细的解答。下面是他们的介绍。

本期主要讨论了周鑫/David投资方法论的变化,强调投资的第一性原理,即股票价值的未来现金流折现,以及精选公司深度研究、持续跟踪和考虑安全边际与估值的重要性。David还分享了其投资策略,包括关注企业商业模式和长期增长潜力,以及在特定市场环境下进行资产配置的方法。对话最后提供了对投资者的建议,强调了对投资风格的认知、持续学习、研究积累认知以及投资过程中的耐心与坚持。

**嘉宾:**周鑫/David,播客《投资实战派》主理人,私募基金经理,早年从事海外衍生品当中的债券和利率的交易,积累了丰富的海外市场经验。自2016年起,专注于股票投资,构建了一套开源的投研系统,对价值投资有深度研究与实践;经历多个经济周期和多样化的市场环境,对企业生命周期及地缘政治周期有独到见解;熟悉商品策略的配置。

利用独有的开源投研系统不断深化对互联网,大消费,大周期行业的第一性原理认知,不断积累认知复利,追求更高的投资标准和审美。

**主持人:**燕妮,“一路有妮”)投顾组合主理人,《燕妮聊基金》播客主理人。职业基金研究10年+的前从业者。

🎯时间轴

00:00 燕妮聊基金与投资实战派周鑫共谈投资方法论

03:58 精选全球50家顶级公司投资策略

07:28 精选全球50公司投资策略解析

10:59 高质量公司投资策略与市场估值逻辑

18:11 EPS增长置信度与行业龙头的关联性

26:29 探讨商业模式的形成与核心竞争力

33:53 高壁垒公司与消费行业投资策略

36:52 巴菲特的投资哲学与企业生命周期分析

40:42 投资成长期公司与价值评估策略

44:30 组合管理中的公司配置策略

50:08 探讨投资逻辑与风格选择

01:02:35 探讨投资中的置信度与市场未来展望

01:13:07 投资策略与市场分析分享

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