The main theme of the conversation was Xiao Ma's journey through postpartum depression and her reflections on personal growth, emotional struggles, and the changes in her relationships, particularly with her husband, after having a child. The discussion also touched on the importance of self-care, emotional expression, and the challenges of adapting to new roles and environments.
Xiao Ma felt a sense of loneliness and isolation due to several factors: the physical and psychological changes she experienced postpartum, the shift from a couple's dynamic to a family dynamic with the inclusion of her in-laws, and the lack of emotional support and understanding from her husband. She also mentioned the loss of personal freedom and the overwhelming responsibilities of motherhood, which contributed to her feelings of being misunderstood and unsupported.
Xiao Ma described a noticeable shift in her relationship with her husband, where small but significant gestures of care and attention, such as him always holding her hand or accompanying her for small errands, had diminished. She felt a sense of loss and disconnection, as her husband's focus shifted more towards their child, leaving her feeling neglected and emotionally distant.
Xiao Ma coped with her postpartum depression by seeking positive feedback and emotional support from friends, engaging in physical activities like yoga and Pilates to improve her physical and mental health, and focusing on self-care and personal growth. She also emphasized the importance of expressing her feelings and needs, and setting personal goals to regain a sense of control and purpose in her life.
Xiao Ma realized that her emotional needs and the dynamics of her relationships had changed. She acknowledged that her relationship with her husband had become less intense and that she needed to focus more on her own well-being and independence. She emphasized the importance of self-love and self-care, and the need to express her feelings and desires more openly to achieve a healthier emotional state.
Gao Erji reflected on the importance of emotional expression and communication by highlighting how seemingly trivial conversations and shared moments can deepen connections and provide comfort. He compared these interactions to grooming behaviors in animals, which help build alliances and reduce stress. He also noted the challenges many couples face in trying to communicate effectively and the need to break down stereotypes to truly understand and connect with each other.
发生在无数次沟通都难以触达之后。
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00:09 Intro
PART 01
02:18 「处境」
08:27 凝视深渊
17:27 真正的关于「自己」
PART 02
23:20 时间 - 耐心 - 确定性
24:58 情绪和感受,作为困顿时刻的解题思路和答案。
27:40 彼此间无聊的废话为什么重要?—— 爱欲的延伸。
28:55 解除「刻板印象」才能真正的触达。
30:00 情感是流动的、变化和成长的,接受这一点,是一种松绑。
31:17 终将:爱神再次降临。(“只是爱就完全可以”)
31:33 Outro
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电影《Hors-saison(法国 / 2023)》插曲
《只是爱就完全可以》- 文兆杰 - 专辑:《爱神》/ 2022
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