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E129: Sam Altman plays chess with regulators, AI's "nuclear" potential, big pharma bundling & more

2023/5/19
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Chamath Palihapitiya
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David Sacks
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Sam Altman: 建议成立独立机构监管AI,并对AI模型的训练和使用发放许可,以确保AI安全可靠。他声称自己不持有OpenAI任何股权,并认为AI监管、许可和监管俘获即将发生。他提出应申请许可才能编译和训练AI模型,这类似于KYC(了解你的客户)机制。 Chamath Palihapitiya: 认为Sam Altman在参议院听证会上采取了策略性的让步,以实现监管俘获,从而巩固OpenAI的领先地位。他认为Sam Altman通过同意所有监管要求,确保自己能够参与塑造新的监管机构和规则,从而保护OpenAI的利益。他还指出,参议院听证会上的参议员们对AI技术缺乏真正的理解,他们提出的监管建议更多的是基于个人偏见而非实际需求。他认为,硅谷公司对AI的态度比华尔街更谨慎,并指出AI模型正在变得越来越小,越来越容易获取,监管机构很难对其进行有效监管。 David Sacks: 认为Sam Altman的策略是监管俘获,通过同意所有监管要求来保护OpenAI的利益。他认为参议员们对AI技术缺乏理解,提出的监管建议是多余的,可以通过现有法律解决。他反对AI监管和许可制度。 David Freedberg: 认为AI模型正在变得越来越小,越来越容易获取,监管机构很难对其进行有效监管。他指出,越来越多的开源AI模型出现,使得监管AI变得更加困难。他认为,由于AI模型小型化和边缘计算的普及,监管机构难以追踪和审核模型的使用情况。他认为,试图追踪和批准所有AI模型并审核服务器几乎是不可能的,监管机构应该认识到这一点。他认为,监管AI模型的许可制度将会扼杀创新,并导致权力集中在华盛顿。他还认为,AI监管将优先保护就业,这可能会阻碍创新。 Chamath Palihapitiya: 认为一些有影响力的人应该超越自身利益,考虑AI对社会整体的益处和风险。他认为,AI技术具有巨大的潜力,但也存在极小的风险可能导致人类灭绝。由于对Transformer模型的工作原理缺乏了解,AI的潜在风险被低估了。为了防止AI技术被用于破坏性目的,需要放慢AI发展速度。他认为,目前,各方对AI监管的立场出奇地一致,这与核武器的情况类似。 David Sacks: 认为目前,支持AI监管的观点在政治上占据主导地位,而反对监管的观点则不受欢迎。他认为,Elon Musk担心的是AGI(通用人工智能)可能对人类构成威胁,但这并非当前AI监管讨论的重点。他认为,目前只有一个对人类构成物种级别风险的AI风险,那就是AGI,但这仍然是一个长期的风险。 David Freedberg: 认为,由于AI模型小型化和边缘计算的普及,监管AI模型的编译和初始实例化仍然是可行的。他认为,在AI模型小型化并广泛应用于手机之前,需要设置关卡来减缓AI发展速度。他认为,可以通过要求提供个人信息来监管大规模AI模型的训练。

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The discussion revolves around the commercial incentives for companies like OpenAI to ask for AI regulation. The panelists debate whether this is a strategic move to preemptively control the market or a genuine concern for the potential risks of AI.
  • Sam Altman's testimony advocating for a separate agency to oversee AI.
  • The concept of regulatory capture and its potential benefits for companies.
  • The debate on the practicality of regulating open-source AI models.
  • The analogy of AI to nuclear weapons and the need for caution.

Shownotes Transcript

(0:00) Bestie intros!: Reddit Performance Reviews

(5:14) Quick AIS 2023 update

(6:27) AI Senate hearing: Sam Altman playing chess with regulators, open-source viability

(21:25) Regulatory capture angle, "preemptive regulation," how AI relates to nuclear, insider insights from the White House's AI summit

(43:33) Elon hires new Twitter CEO

(48:46) Lina Khan moves to block Amgen's $27.8B acquisition of Horizon Therapeutics

(1:02:30) Apple's AR goggles are reportedly being unveiled at WWDC in early June, platform shift potential, how it deviates from Apple's prior launch strategies

(1:07:45) Residential and commercial real estate headwinds

(1:15:29) Unrest in SF and NYC after two recent tragic incidents ended in death

(1:24:20) Soros political motivations for backing progressive DAs

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