Pivoting, with Cedric Thompson Jr.
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They are Washington, D.C. Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of iHeartRadio. Good morning. This is Laura. Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast. Today's episode is going to be a longer one, part of the series where I interview fascinating people about how they take their days from great to awesome and any advice they have for the rest of us.

So today I'm delighted to welcome Cedric Thompson to the show. Cedric has pivoted from a career in professional football to content creation, sharing his videos on family life on social media with millions of people. So Cedric, welcome to the show. Hey, Laura. Thank you so much for having me. Yeah. So why don't you tell our listeners just a little bit about you, the quick bio?

Okay, well, my name is Cedric. A lot of people call me Ced. I'm originally from California and I moved out to Minnesota because I got a full-ride scholarship to play football out here. I met my then girlfriend my freshman year who is now my wife and we have three daughters, three beautiful daughters. I was drafted to the NFL in 2013, played for a few years and now I transitioned over to doing full-time content and I share just my perspective on fatherhood and

and marriage and self-development. And I really enjoy what I do. Yeah. Well, I love that you've made this career pivot. A lot of people have to make pivots in life, but obviously football isn't the kind of thing that people can do forever. Right.

You know, our bodies won't allow that. But I'm so I'm curious how you decided what you were going to pivot to and what that process was like. So it's interesting. That's a great question. And we can go, man, we can talk for hours on that. So I'm I'm from California, like I said, but I'm from the inner city. I was born in Englewood, raised in Compton, like moved all around. And like sports were something that we were put into, like essentially stay out of trouble.

and I just happened to be athletic and I enjoyed being a captain and I just kind of kept doing it. And it worked, it obviously worked out for me. But it wasn't, my goal was never to go to the NFL. I didn't really understand what that really was. It was just to work hard and be around my teammates. And I love the community aspect of being on a team. It wasn't until my junior year when I was in college where NFL scouts would come to see the juniors and they'd realize, oh, this guy has potential. And I was like, oh, I got potential. Okay, cool. I guess the next thing is the NFL.

So then I went to the NFL, worked really hard and got drafted. Only like 0.1% of people get drafted. And when I got to the NFL, that's when I realized, oh, I did what I wanted to do. And when I got there, I was like, ah, this doesn't feel like me. You know, like it just feels like I'm kind of living a dream that a lot of my peers growing up said that we were supposed to do. When I got there, I saw how political it was, how it was all about money and status and not really the camaraderie of being around people

a team, you know, and I kept playing for a couple of years when I didn't want to play. I just kept doing it because it was kind of all that I knew. And part of pivoting from it was scary. My last team I was with, it was with the Cincinnati Bengals and I ended up getting hurt. And when I got hurt, my first daughter was born around two weeks before I was injured. And

And then I got her, was able to come back to Minneapolis and raise her the first seven months of her life. And I was like, I'm done. Like, I just want to do this. So my daughter, long after they say my daughter, I was like, I just wanted to be a dad and just raise my babies. Yeah. And so then you decided to make videos about it. Yeah, I did. Oh, so yeah. So when I was in, when I was playing, I was with the Patriots at one point.

And I got cut from the team. I was like, oh, this can be over with at any point. So I was like, let me just figure out what else I wanted to do. Because football was all I ever did. And I was like, let me just pick up a camera and start recording videos and just see what happens. A lot of it was for me to just

distract myself from that, knowing that I wasn't playing outside of training. And I told myself when I got online, I'm here to be myself and tell my story from my perspective because news blogs or sports analysts always told people and I never said it from my own

And then I started making videos on YouTube. And that did really well in the beginning because all of it is really authentic, which is like a rare thing online for whatever reason. And yeah, I've been doing it ever since. That's awesome. Yeah, well, people definitely flock to these videos. They've been very, very popular. So we...

We got to talk to each other a little bit before this. I got to do a Cedric's podcast. We talked about how when you were playing football, the schedule was very, very set. I wonder if you could just tell people like what a day in the life of NFL training looks like. Yeah. So you wake up and it's around like, you know, six o'clock every morning. And when you go in, you don't have to worry about anything because everything is taken care of.

So you walk in and there's monitors everywhere and you're there from 6:00, 7:00 in the morning to about 8:00 at night and every single minute, and I'm not over exaggerating, every single minute. I told you on my podcast, you get in there, it's 7:15, 7:35, check in. 7:40 to 8:15, meeting one. 8:20 to 8:00,

to nine o'clock lift one. And it just goes like that the entire time. And that's really it. So you don't really have time, you don't have to worry about anything. That's the simplest way to put it. Somebody, all the food is made for you, you walk in after practice, the smoothie is right there, they have your beet juice, everything is just done for you. You got to just show up and perform and be ready to work.

Yeah. And that's different from your life now, I think. Yeah, it really is. So what is your schedule looking like now these days? Nobody's handing you a smoothie at 8, 15 a.m.? Nobody hands me a smoothie. Nobody is making my meals for me. Nobody's telling me I need to work out. There's no consequences if I'm on time. Everything is all on me. Everything is all on me. It's not on somebody else making a schedule or a meal plan or a smoothie or whatever.

But you've had to figure out then a schedule that works for you. And one of the things I understand from your videos is you actually do get up pretty early in the morning. Is that right? Can you tell us a little bit about your morning routine? So, yeah. So I get up early in the morning and, you know, depending on what I'm working on, I'm really into self-development. For me, self-development means understanding like where I am.

And the thing that I learned from my parents and the way that I was brought up and challenging those things to figure out what it is that I actually truly want to hold on to and something that I can let go and build new skills to be a better husband, to be a better father and to be a better person. So most of the time I get up early in the morning and I have a set of questions that I ask myself and I break it down by marriage, kids, faith, self-love.

and relationships and I separate family from my relationship with friends and stuff. And I'll write about it and I'll kind of have a goal in mind that I want to be thinking about actively doing in those relationships. Actually, I have a sauna

In a cold tub at my house and depending on the day and the weather I'll get in there if I'm feeling like it I feel like and if I don't I won't um, then after that is pretty much my well, that's that's my morning routine Yeah, and and then the rest of the day is sort of split with um, I mean running your business You're doing content creation representing brands and and and fatherhood. I'm curious how you sort of make those different pieces fit together well

I plan on Friday. That's the first thing that I do. You plan on Friday. I hear that's a good idea. Yeah, it is. It's great. So what I do is I think of my life in pillars. So in every pillar, there's X amount of things that I need to do, and some have more priorities, some don't have others. And if mine have a deadline, I will put that thing first because typically if there's a deadline, something bad will happen if I don't get it done.

And to me, it's really that simple. It's like deadlines, get those in there. What do I want to do? Put those in there. And then that's it. And it's so funny that I'm explaining it so simply now. It was not like that in the beginning. It was really difficult in the beginning. A bit chaotic at the beginning. Yeah. Well, that's true. It can happen. All right. Well, we're going to take one quick ad break and then we will be back.

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Well, I am back with Cedric Thompson, who is sharing about his schedule, how he has pivoted from a career in football to one in content creation, talking about how he balances running his business with time with family. So I have to I'm very curious, you know, when you put lots of videos out in the world.

Sometimes you get reactions you thought you'd get. Sometimes you get reactions you really didn't think you would. I'm curious if you have any videos you put out there that you were just like, I did not see that coming. Oh, yeah. I mean, pick your choice, man. It's like when you...

Like with my content, I'm sharing things that I'm really going through and doing my best to articulate it in 60 seconds. Nothing takes 60 seconds to really explain. So I might say something that comes off in a way that isn't necessarily what I mean and I could articulate it better, but that's part of the reps in the practice. I made a video

about helping my wife like clean the house, right? And what I was trying to say was that we have a lot going on. The house is a mess. I'm going to just clean the whole thing for the both of us. And...

People took it as if I was saying, "My wife ain't doing nothing. I'm cleaning the house." I'm like, "That is not what I'm saying. That is not what I'm saying." People just came after me. I was like, "My bad." That was not what I was saying. That happens a lot. The message is going to be to everybody and the fact of the matter is everybody's going to say something. You know what I mean? It's just the name of the game. It happens more times.

I would like. Well, I find, I feel like people on the internet are looking to be offended about something. I mean, one of your videos that I was sort of amazed at the response. I guess you had been parenting solo for a week or something while your wife was out of the country. And people, there was a mix.

Like some people were like, oh, isn't this great? You know, he's taking a nice video about how he's, he can run the household while his wife is away. And then others were like, why are you acting like you, you know, saved the world by taking care of your own kids for a week? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was another video that I was going to mention. It's like, when I posted that, when I was making, I was like, I don't know exactly what's going to happen. I was like, this video is going to do well because,

You know, you don't really see fathers doing this, but it's also the number of my wife's gone. I'm like, oh, I got no choice. I got to do this. Whereas like me, if I'm being honest with you, I could have had help. But I genuinely wanted to do this because my wife always expressed to me mental load. I never could really understand it. So I was like, you know what? You're gone for 10 days. I'm about to just do this for myself. I want to help you and your mom. I don't want to help nobody. I want to help with a schedule. I just want to do it.

By day one and a half, I was like, "All right." I was like, "I did it." Is your mom busy? Could she come? Yeah. Then just powering through to finish it, it gave me this new respect for my wife and the things she started explaining to me to give me an understanding for a long time. For me, I'm somebody, I want to put myself in people's shoes so I can have empathy and understand them. That's what happens.

I mean, I've been doing that all my life just through sports, you know? Yeah. Well, let's talk a little bit about that, about, you know, empathy and communication. Because one of the things you do talk a lot about is it's about trying to communicate well with the people in your life. And I'm curious, you know, how that's been as it's developed in your life, like where you think you've learned communication skills or the ones you're still working on? Oh, man, that's a really good question. I had a really long talk with my manager yesterday. It's about communication because it's so fascinating because,

I have this idea that like, I realized that, you know, there's one word, right? Let's call the word love. People kind of have their own definition of love than the one that's in the Webster's Dictionary. And when you realize that, it's like, that's why communicating is so important to understand, okay, where are we at? Like, what are we saying? You know what I mean? And you almost have to come up with your own definitions within this word or this topic or this whatever. And what I've learned is that you have to really become

a good listener, one, and you kind of, not kind of, you have to take emotion out of it most of the time. And just being able to listen for words, listen and take words for what they are, and almost try to understand each word that your partner or your child or your friend or the person down the street who's upset because you cut them off or whatever,

are saying. And from that, not being emotional, you're able to really understand the root of what people actually want. And then you get to choose if you want to give that to them or not. That's the, that's like the, and that's for every relationship. My, me and my wife, me and my kids, my friends, people online. It's like, oh, I understand what they're saying, but

It's OK. Well, but how do you I mean, that's that's easier said than done, because how do you take I mean, it is very hard to take the emotion out of it. I mean, your your neighbor's mad, like you're you're you don't want to jump in to defend yourself or something. You know, how is there a process you have for kind of calming yourself down in these moments?

So I've tried, like I've read a book called Nonviolent Communication, and it talks about how you basically have to become a good listener and understand what people actually want. And to be honest with you, the only way that you really get good at it is by putting yourself out there to have conversation. Because my problem was I would be somebody who just shut down and I had to learn how to not shut down and give myself the chance to be

able to give myself the opportunity to communicate with someone. Like I said, in the morning, I get up and I write questions. I'm focusing on how to be a better communicator in those questions. And I'm being intentional about, I want to be warmer towards my wife today. And that in itself is,

helps me look at her through a different lens and I can ignore that the house is dirty or that like we're tired or whatever because I'm choosing to look at her in that lens of warmth and she's my wife and I love her etc. etc. I really feel just from my experience that you don't it's easier said than done but you really

get good at it by giving yourself the opportunity to have those tough conversations or to even just start a conversation about something. I have no idea if that made sense. Yeah, it did. It did make sense. And I'm curious, I mean, your kids are still pretty little, right? They're little ones. They're five and two. Yes. But I'm kind of curious, like how you think about

spending time with your kids and like, what are your favorite things you like to do with your kids in the course of your regular schedule? I mean, I'm such like, like, what do you guys want to do? And like, let's try to make it happen. But my kids are in a lot of sports. They are in a lot of activities. So they are always are busy. And most of the time I know that they kind of have like, you know, busy lives because we keep them busy. Most of the time I'm just trying to wind down with them and figure out what they want to do. Like anytime, like we went to California last week, I'm like, what do y'all want to do?

what's going on? We want to do nothing. I'm like, okay, let's not do anything. So for me, it's more about like, what do they want to do? And then if I have things that I want them to do, then we'll make plans to make it happen. Like, yeah, that's how I approach parenting with my kids because to be honest with you, my wife is really big on like,

camp tennis soccer softball rock camp i'm like all right you're the chill parent you're like the sit around lie on the couch parent yeah yeah yeah and it's like y'all want to go outside and go to the park all right let's do it let's do it all right well we're going to take one more quick ad break and then we'll be back with more with cedric thompson

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So I am curious, obviously, you know, anyone who's had a career in professional athletics, that's been a major part of their life, obviously their physical fitness. And then you're adjusting to life afterwards where no one's requiring you to do anything. What is your exercise routine looking like now? And where do you make space for that in your life? Well, I think the first thing is realizing that I did not have to work out how I worked out when I played. That was the first thing is like I was out of like,

running crazy sprints, like I'm about to go out there and tackle people again. So for a long time, I had to learn like, hey, you can just jog. Like, it's all right. You don't have to sprint around the lake. You know what I mean? So that was the first thing. And now it's really, it took a lot of research for me to realize what it actually takes to just live, have a healthy life and a healthy body, you know? So now it's gone to two to three times a week of like,

I would say like strenuous things, you know, like lifts, like I don't like weights anymore. I never want to touch a weight in my life again because that's all I ever did. So like I'll do like calisthenics where it's like pull-ups, push-ups and stuff like that. Not a runner, don't like running, so I don't run. So my cardiovascular stuff is like

That's like the closest that I'll get. And I'll try to jog. I live right by a lake. I'll try to jog around the lake sometimes if only I'm invited. I won't go out there by myself. You're putting it in a different place in your life. Exactly. You spent a lot of time on it earlier. You spent a little less time on it now. I'm curious.

how you see your business developing over the next few years as you're, you know, get all these people watching your videos. Where do you see this going? Well, now, you know, for a long time, I've just been expressing how I felt and I know people resonated with it. And through that, you know, I've gotten a lot of reach and it's given me great opportunities to work with like really big brands. And that's been awesome. But now I feel like I have something that I want to give to the world that I've always felt in my core, in my being.

And it's, I call it harmony, that we're all looking for harmony in our lives. When you think about an orchestra, all the people who are doing everything that they can and leaning in their strengths to make these beautiful sounds.

And I think about my life and how many things are constantly moving around. All I'm ever trying to do is just find harmony for myself so I can find harmony for my, give the best, give myself the best opportunity to have harmony with my wife and my kids and my friends. And it's so reassuring to me because it's something that you always have to work on.

So now these ideas and these philosophies of like how I get up in the morning or how I think about fitness, how I think about time, all goes back to like this idea of having harmony and always working to have that harmony. So now I'm finding myself

wanting to speak. Like I'm doing the podcast and I'm starting a clothing brand that's called Harmony to bring people back to this way of thinking about our lives. So that's what I really see myself focusing on now.

So any different extension that you can come up from this concept of harmony, basically? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. We'll keep sharing it with a broader audience for sure. Yeah. So I always ask people, what is something you have done recently to take a day from great to awesome? You know,

I think a lot of my shifts from going from great to awesome is all based on how I look at something more than something that I put in my planner to do and it changed and it was a better day. For me, the more deep thinking and writing that I do, it's all about how I look at things.

more so than like something drastically changing for me to have an awesome day. Because, you know, I used to hear people say like, "You, every day is great, every day is awesome." I'm like, "Well, that's really hard for me to like, to accept." But when I changed my mindset, it was easy for me to realize, you know, like life is good and everything's okay. So for me, it's more of a mindset shift to have more

consistent, awesome days by the way that I just view, I guess, being appreciative of

doing things that I enjoy. Well, I'm curious, was there any time recently that, you know, objectively the day wasn't looking all that great and you were able to shift your mindset about it? Hmm. I mean, I can, I was like, which kid do I want to choose? Who had the meltdown? Who, who, yes, exactly. Well, actually this is you this morning. So my youngest daughter, Quincy, came in here and, you know, when I'm in the morning, it's like,

I don't want nobody to bother me. I'm trying to, like, answer these questions. Like, I want my time. And she came in here and she came in here to talk to me. And typically it would be really easy for me to be like, Quincy, like, leave daddy alone. Like, it kind of knocks me off. And then I was able to, like, be patient with her and, like, sit with her and still do my thing. And right then it clicked to me, like, oh, like, I still can get –

the writing done. It's just about shifting a little bit and making sure that she's calm. If I don't give her the love that she's looking for, it's just going to be more tough. She's two. She's going to keep coming back. She doesn't understand that I'm sitting there writing. So I would say for me, if I have a bad morning, it's really hard for me to have a bad day. So that little shift of

So in mindset there, I would say took not even a great day, like it could have been a bad day to an awesome day just by realizing what was going on with my two year old. Yeah, that's great. Yeah. No, you can't really push off a two year old and expect them to understand. Oh, I see. You had something else you were doing. Oh, pardon me. It's all good. All good. Yeah. What are you looking forward to right now?

I think building out harmony for me, like now that I understand like all the things that I've been going through all these years, that I have a way to conceptualize it and give it to the world, it really excites me. And I feel like I'm really at a point in my life where I'm getting up and I'm doing something that doesn't feel like work. It's just like I'm doing something that I want to like give to the world because I really know how much it's helped me.

And I think it can help other people because just like with you do, there's, it's practical, but it takes work. And I think that is the magic formula. And that's just really exciting for me. Awesome. Awesome. Well, where can people find you?

They can find me on Instagram. That's where I'm mainly at is just said CED. And then on my podcast is just conversations with said and YouTube, TikTok. It's all just my name. Well said, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you to everyone for listening. If you have questions about this or any other episode, you can always reach me at Laura at Laura Vanderkam dot com.

And in the meantime, this is Laura. Thanks for listening. And here's to making the most of our time. Thanks for listening to Before Breakfast. If you've got questions, ideas, or feedback, you can reach me at Laura at LauraVanderkam.com. Before Breakfast is a production of iHeartMedia.

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