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There will always be emails

2025/6/9
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Before Breakfast

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Laura: 我认为我们常常陷入一种误区,总想着先处理完所有琐事,比如回复邮件、处理各种信息,然后再去做真正重要的事情。但事实是,这些琐事永远也处理不完。总会有新的邮件、新的信息涌入。如果我们一直等待“清理完甲板”的那一刻,我们将永远无法开始。因此,我建议大家改变这种思维模式,不要把所有时间都花在处理这些琐事上,而是要设定目标,朝着目标前进,即使还有很多事情没有完成。要学会接受这种不完美的状态,并在此基础上采取行动。 Oliver Berkman: 我也认为,我们总是高估自己能够完美完成任务的能力。总觉得所有事情都应该做到尽善尽美,但现实是,总会有超出我们能力范围的事情需要处理。因此,我们需要承认这种局限性,并培养一种“愿意行动”的心态,去做那些真正重要的事情。如果我们总是想着先处理完所有事情再去做重要的事,我们最终会发现自己永远都在“清理甲板”,而没有真正开始航行。所以,关键在于,即使在没有完全准备好的情况下,也要勇敢地去做那些对我们来说最重要的事情。不要等待所谓的“完美时机”,因为那个时刻永远不会到来。我们必须在当下就为自己争取时间,去做那些能够带来真正价值的事情。

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Hey listeners, you know I can't be bothered with lengthy beauty routines. Who has time for that? That's why I am so glad I discovered Merit. Merit is all about simplicity, high-performing products, and enhancing your natural beauty. If you're like me and prefer a less is more approach, you'll love that Merit can help you look put together in five minutes or less.

My favorite product has to be the minimalist. It's a two in one foundation and concealer that gives me smooth, even coverage with zero fuss. I also like the flush balm for cheeks. My shade is archival and it gives me that healthy, natural flush of color that blends in beautifully and makes me look like I spent more time on my makeup than I actually did. Ready to simplify your routine and make mornings a breeze.

Head to MeritBeauty.com and get their signature makeup bag free with your first order. For clean, effortless, high-performing makeup, head to MeritBeauty.com. Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of iHeartRadio. Good morning. This is Laura. Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast. Today's tip is that there will always be emails.

So don't spend all your time dealing with emails or clearing the decks in general. Instead, set your sails and get going in the direction of your goals, regardless of what still theoretically needs to get done. Today's tip, like another this week, comes from Oliver Berkman, who is the author of 4,000 Weeks. Berkman was a guest on Laurie Santos' podcast, The Happiness Lab.

where he noted that we are never going to be able to do things as perfectly as we can imagine them. There's always going to be too much to do. Perhaps it might be wise to admit that and, as he put it, develop the willingness to act and to really do the stuff that matters. Berkman points out that there is always more that feels like it needs to be done than we can do, an observation that's not new to anyone listening to this podcast. But Berkman's insight is what comes next.

He says that if you assume you're going to deal with all the things you think you need to do first and then get to the good stuff, you are going to end up spending your whole life clearing the decks and never getting there. He continues, the skill we're trying to develop is the willingness to act on the most important things now, even though the decks are not clear.

The underlying point here, he says, is there isn't this moment coming later when you're going to have all the time for the things that matter. And so, on some level, you have to claim that time in the present instead. I think this is wise. I have long advised against clearing the decks before you get to your real work. Fundamentally, the decks will never be clear. Instead, you can choose to get to your real work now.

So if you find yourself perpetually drawn into email, Slack, Teams, text, the news, and the administrative work that we feel we have to get done to keep everything running, check your assumptions. Don't assume that you need to clear the decks or that doing so is even possible. Do what matters most now anyway, even while the decks aren't completely clear. There will always be emails, could be a helpful phrase to say to yourself.

Whenever you think that you don't have time to reach out to that new client because your inbox is a mess, or write that novel because your inbox is a mess, or be present with a loved one or look at the sunset, remind yourself that there will always be emails. There will be emails if you don't look at the sunset, and there will be emails if you do. Probably you will be happier if you take a moment to take the world in. When we embrace this truth,

We stop trying to clear the decks for some illusory time in the future. Life won't be calm next week. Possibly, it won't be calm next year. If there is something you would like to do, best to get going. In the meantime, this is Laura. Thanks for listening. And here's to making the most of our time. ♪

Thanks for listening to Before Breakfast. If you've got questions, ideas, or feedback, you can reach me at laura at lauravandercam.com. Before Breakfast is a production of iHeartMedia. For more podcasts from iHeartMedia, please visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

Hey listeners, you know I can't be bothered with lengthy beauty routines. Who has time for that? That's why I am so glad I discovered Merit. Merit is all about simplicity, high-performing products, and enhancing your natural beauty. If you're like me and prefer a less is more approach, you'll love that Merit can help you look put together in five minutes or less.

My favorite product has to be the minimalist. It's a two in one foundation and concealer that gives me smooth, even coverage with zero fuss. I also like the flush balm for cheeks. My shade is archival and it gives me that healthy, natural flush of color that blends in beautifully and makes me look like I spent more time on my makeup than I actually did. Ready to simplify your routine and make mornings a breeze.

head to MeritBeauty.com and get their signature makeup bag free with your first order. For clean, effortless, high-performing makeup, head to MeritBeauty.com. Hey, listeners. We know you're all about making the most of your time. So why not turn your lunch break into a growth break with Front Row Seat with Ken Coleman. Every Tuesday, Ken sits down with top experts to explore the real questions that help you thrive at work and in life.

Questions like, what are the 10 best foods for your memory? Or how can you ask for the raise you want and actually get it? If you love thoughtful advice and smart strategies, check out Front Row Seat with Ken Coleman, wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast. ♪