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EP146 | 自己稿子自己寫啦

2024/11/11
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博恩:喜剧创作的原创性是未来创作者面临的最大挑战。一些喜剧演员在网络上发布抄袭内容却获得好评,印证了博恩之前提出的理论:机器可以搜刮网络上最好笑的留言并拼凑起来,效果比大多数单体喜剧演员更好笑。这反映了人们对喜剧演员核心价值的误解,也体现了利用工具创作的普遍性。 博恩:西方喜剧演员通常需要自己创作专场内容,而在台湾,却普遍接受请写手代写专场稿件的现象。台湾将深夜脱口秀节目和单口喜剧都称为“脱口秀”,导致概念混淆,人们对单口喜剧演员的创作要求降低。台湾观众对喜剧演员创作的要求降低,导致网络上抄袭行为盛行。使用AI工具创作与抄袭网络内容本质上并无区别,都体现了创作者利用工具的能力。 博恩:对笑料原创性的重视是近期的现象,过去人们更关注笑料本身的传播和效果,而非其来源。美国纪录片《The Aristocrats》中,一百位喜剧演员讲述同一个笑话,展现了个人风格的重要性,而非笑话本身的原创性。喜剧演员的价值在于其提供的独特的情感价值和形象,而非单纯的笑点。建议那些对网络抄袭现象感到不满的创作者,应该学习成功的案例,并提升自身在口条、视频质量和外形等方面的能力。 博恩:学习语言的最佳方式是沉浸式学习,但成本较高。建议高中生利用AI工具学习英语,避免与陌生人接触的风险。博恩分享了自己独特的思考方式,以及对将喜剧融入心理治疗的看法,认为喜剧擅长发现问题,但不擅长解决问题。 博恩:欣赏周星驰无厘头的喜剧风格,并分享了自己最喜欢的笑话以及对哲学书籍的看法。博恩就网络喜剧表演的责任和观众的反应发表了自己的看法,认为平台和算法也应承担一部分责任。博恩分享了自己对人脉经营的看法,认为在创业初期人脉很重要,但随着自身能力的提升,人脉的重要性会下降。 A演员:对网络上抄袭网络梗的视频表达了不满,认为其缺乏创意和翻转。 B演员:对网络上抄袭网络梗的视频表达了不满,认为观众缺乏辨别能力,甚至觉得没有翻转的更为高尚。

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Why does the speaker believe that originality is the biggest challenge for creators in this century?

The speaker believes originality is the biggest challenge because of the rise of tools like ChatGPT and the prevalence of content recycling, such as repurposing popular online comments or jokes. This makes it harder for creators to produce truly original work, as audiences often don't care about the source of the content.

What is the speaker's opinion on comedians using ghostwriters for their performances?

The speaker finds it confusing and problematic, especially in Taiwan, where it is more accepted compared to the West. In the U.S., comedians who use ghostwriters risk ruining their careers, as audiences expect comedians to write their own material, which is seen as a reflection of their soul and essence.

How does the speaker differentiate between late-night talk shows and stand-up comedy in Taiwan?

The speaker explains that late-night talk shows are weekly productions requiring a team effort, while stand-up comedy is typically a solo endeavor with no time pressure. In Taiwan, both are often referred to as 'talk shows,' which leads to confusion about the expectations for comedians to write their own material.

What does the speaker suggest is the core value of a comedian?

The speaker believes the core value of a comedian lies in the emotional value they provide to the audience, rather than just the jokes or performance. It's about the persona they create and the unique perspective they offer, which resonates with the audience on a deeper level.

What is the speaker's view on the use of ChatGPT or similar tools in comedy writing?

The speaker questions whether using tools like ChatGPT diminishes a comedian's originality. They argue that if a comedian can claim credit for using ChatGPT effectively, then someone using online comments as material should also be acceptable. This raises questions about the true value of a comedian's work.

Why does the speaker think Taiwanese audiences are more accepting of comedians not writing their own material?

The speaker attributes this to the cultural confusion between late-night talk shows and stand-up comedy in Taiwan. Since late-night hosts often rely on writers, audiences extend this expectation to stand-up comedians, leading to a lower emphasis on originality in comedy.

What is the speaker's opinion on the role of humor in psychological therapy?

The speaker believes humor can be therapeutic but cautions against using it as a replacement for serious therapy. They think humor is better suited for identifying and highlighting issues rather than solving them, which requires more structured approaches.

How does the speaker view the concept of 'originality' in jokes historically?

The speaker notes that the idea of a joke having an original author is relatively recent. Historically, jokes like 'Xiao Ming' or 'Xiao Cai' were shared without concern for who created them. The modern emphasis on originality reflects a shift in how comedians and audiences value creative ownership.

What does the speaker think about the role of personal style in comedy?

The speaker believes that personal style is crucial in comedy, even when delivering the same joke. They reference the documentary 'The Aristocrats,' where different comedians told the same joke but each brought their unique flair, demonstrating that style can make a significant difference in how a joke is received.

What advice does the speaker give to comedians who are frustrated with the lack of originality in comedy?

The speaker advises comedians to focus on improving their delivery, video quality, and appearance, as these factors can significantly impact their success. They also suggest learning from those who succeed with recycled content, rather than simply resenting them.

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台灣的脫口秀文化中,觀眾似乎較能接受演員使用網路素材,甚至認為直接使用網路上的高分留言比演員自己創作更有趣。這種現象可能與台灣民眾對脫口秀的定義模糊,以及專場演出與節目的區別不清有關。
  • 台灣觀眾對脫口秀演員使用網路素材的接受度高
  • 專場演出與節目的定義模糊導致概念混淆
  • 民眾對喜劇演員是否需要自己寫稿的認知不足

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