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Southeast Asia and Taiwan

2024/11/14
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China in the World

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Julio S. Amador III: 我认为许多东南亚国家不愿被卷入台湾问题,因为这对于他们来说是一个难以处理的难题。我们一直被提醒注意台湾问题可能带来的危险,但我们不愿就这个问题进行认真讨论,这意味着我们未来会遇到问题。菲律宾因地理位置最接近台湾,必须关注台湾发生的事情,但我们更关注南海问题,这被认为是更重要的战略问题。我们需要认真讨论台湾问题,因为它将对台湾以外的地区产生经济、贸易、安全和外交影响。一些国家在台湾问题上有单方面的利益,这些利益不必在东盟讨论,因为中国在一些东盟活动中拥有否决权。一些问题确实需要单方面的决定,这些决定不会受到一个难以就某些问题达成一致的区域组织的阻碍。 Ratih Kabinawa: 台湾与东南亚地理位置接近,一直是台湾对外政策的目标。南希·佩洛西访问台湾后,台湾问题受到了更多东南亚国家的关注。东盟首次就台湾海峡紧张局势发表联合声明是一个重要的进展。每个东南亚国家对“一个中国政策”都有自己的解读。如果发生台湾突发事件,印尼政府最关心的是在台湾的印尼国民。保护外交是印尼政府的首要任务,印尼外交部正在制定一项与台湾进行更多外交接触的政策。台湾海峡两岸的和平与稳定至关重要。我们没有讨论该地区台湾问题的机制。中国肯定会反对将台湾问题国际化的想法,因为这会严重影响东南亚国家与中国的经济联系。我们需要加强东盟人道主义中心在冲突管理方面的作用。我们需要向台湾、中国甚至美国发出明确的信息,即任何使用武力并挑衅改变现状的人都应承担责任。我们可以恢复一些对话,比如东盟-东盟ISIS对话,或者尝试将台湾纳入该地区的一些区域对话中。 Ian Chong: 如果发生某种对抗、封锁或隔离,东南亚与东北亚的贸易可能会中断,这对东南亚来说代价高昂。东南亚各国在某种程度上都受益于相对稳定和可预测的秩序,因此美国是首选的安全伙伴。东南亚国家在更长远的利益和更眼前的利益之间存在紧张关系。对于东南亚来说,无法摆脱一些重大的台湾突发事件,因为地理位置就在这里。维护该地区的稳定与和平对我们所有人来说都很重要。

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In this episode of the China in the World podcast, Dr. Ian Chong speaks with Dr. Ratih Kabinawa, adjunct research fellow at the School of Social Sciences at the University of Western Australia, and Julio S. Amador III, executive director of the Philippine-American Educational Foundation, on Southeast Asia and Taiwan. The three scholars discuss how tensions over the Taiwan Strait affect Southeast Asia, and how the regional states and ASEAN look at the current dynamics.

Dr. Ian Chong is a nonresident scholar at Carnegie China, where he examines U.S.-China dynamics in Southeast Asia and the broader Asia-Pacific. He is also an associate professor of political science at the National University of Singapore.

Dr. Ratih Kabinawa is an adjunct research fellow at the School of Social Sciences at the University of Western Australia. She is a recipient of the Taiwan Ministry of Foreign Affairs 2024 Fellowship. Her research interests include transnational democracy, Taiwan’s international relations, Taiwan-Southeast Asia relations, and foreign policy of non-state actors. She is currently working on her first monograph on Taiwan’s use of informal diplomacy in Southeast Asia.

Julio S. Amador III is the executive director of the Philippine-American Educational Foundation, the interim president of the Foundation for the National Interest, and founder and trustee of the non-profit FACTS Asia. He previously worked in the Office of the President of the Philippines and served as deputy director-general of the Foreign Service Institute. He was a Fulbright scholar and was with the East-West Center in Washington.