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Zachary Levi | Club Random with Bill Maher

2024/12/8
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Zachary Levi: 我认为左派对我的政治观点过于苛刻,他们甚至建议在节日期间与家人断绝关系,这完全是错误的。我认为家庭应该超越政治,即使存在不健康的家庭关系,也不应该因为政治立场而与家人断绝联系。左派将仅仅因为投票给特朗普而将对方视为虐待行为,我对此表示不同意。尽管公开支持特朗普,但我目前的工作并未受到影响。我支持罗伯特·肯尼迪,因为他对健康和医学的观点与我更接近,并且我认为对现有的疫苗计划提出质疑是科学的态度。科学应该不断接受挑战,质疑现有的疫苗接种方案是科学的态度。传统的疫苗是使用减毒活病毒或细菌,而现有的疫苗接种方案应该受到质疑。历史上,人们通过接种少量病原体来增强免疫力,这更接近于传统的疫苗概念。在独立战争时期,人们通过接种少量天花病毒来增强免疫力。左派对持有不同意见的人采取居高临下的态度,这种傲慢的态度导致了他们的失败。左派的一些愚蠢行为,例如提议将男性送往女性庇护所,也导致了他们的失败。我不赞成特朗普的做法,但他的一些政策比拜登更好。我支持罗伯特·肯尼迪,并非仅仅因为疫苗问题。我支持罗伯特·肯尼迪,因为他是一个正直的人,关心人民。我认为罗伯特·肯尼迪应该将他的环保立场与他对疫苗的质疑结合起来。左派建议与家人断绝关系的做法是荒谬的,这源于主流媒体的错误宣传。主流媒体的负面宣传加剧了人们之间的敌意。即使我坚信自己的观点,我也承认自己可能是错的。真正的知识分子应该对自己的观点保持谦逊,并承认自己可能出错。我认为自己是连接美国左右两派之间的桥梁。我自认为是基督教徒,我相信上帝能够赋予人们说其他语言的能力。我不认为上帝有性别。我认为美国的教育体系存在严重问题,学生毕业时缺乏基本知识。那些获得名利的人应该承担起相应的责任,利用自己的影响力做一些有益的事情。我不赞成左派的态度,但我不会预先对任何事情抱有偏见。我认为自己患有注意力缺陷多动障碍。我不赞成长期依赖药物来获得快乐。我尝试过各种毒品,其中可卡因是最糟糕的。我认为一些毒品可以用于治疗,前提是使用者对其抱有尊重。我曾经在服用迷幻药时体验到上帝的爱。我不在乎别人的政治立场,我只关心他们是否善良。我们需要认识到每个人都是人。我们需要谦逊,承认自己可能出错。 Bill Maher: 我认为左派对我的态度很刻薄。我不赞成左派建议在节日期间与家人断绝关系的做法,我认为这很愚蠢且错误。我认为家庭应该超越政治,即使存在不健康的家庭关系,也不应该因为政治立场而与家人断绝联系。左派将仅仅因为投票给特朗普而将对方视为虐待行为,我对此表示不同意。Zachary Levi 因为公开支持特朗普而失去了工作。我不认为Zachary Levi 是一个愚蠢的人,他是一个有思想、善于表达的人。在一段关系中,即使存在分歧,也应该学会接受。我理解为什么有人会投票给特朗普,尽管我不赞成他的做法。我认为特朗普的总统任期比拜登更好。共和党对环境问题的漠视和对民主的轻视是我投票反对他们的两个主要原因。特朗普的环保立场仅限于清洁空气和水。我被左派边缘化了,因为我没有屈服于他们的观点。左派对特朗普的指控是虚伪的,因为他们对克林顿的类似行为视而不见。我不赞成特朗普拒绝承认选举结果的行为,但他这样做是出于个人自负。福克斯新闻并非是散播虚假信息的始作俑者。塔克·卡尔森在私下里对特朗普的评价与他在公开场合的言论截然相反。左派和右派在处理选举结果方面存在差异。特朗普拒绝承认2020年大选结果,这与希拉里和卡玛拉·哈里斯的做法截然不同。美国建国者是自然神论者,而不是基督教徒。宪法中关于政教分离的条款是为了保护教会和国家。我爱美国。左派对美国的仇恨令人担忧。我们应该对那些做出错误行为的人负责,即使他们的行为是由于被欺骗造成的。大学里教授的政治立场严重失衡。我们需要在政治观点上保持平衡。我们应该寻求真理,而不是试图控制对方。即使存在分歧,我们仍然可以和平相处。我们需要谦逊,承认自己可能出错。如果上帝能够解决所有问题,那将是件好事,但这也将剥夺我们学习和成长的机会。我不理解Hawk Tua 的走红,以及她由此获得的成功。我不认为Hawk Tua 的走红对社会有害。美国的教育体系存在严重问题,学生毕业时缺乏基本知识。 supporting_evidences Zachary Levi: 'Well, we'll get into all that, I'm sure. But, you know, I know I've lost plenty of fans on the far left who like hate when I do that, but it's just so true and it's just so wrong. And so I do love to stick the knife in them when they do stupid things.' Zachary Levi: 'Yeah, well, true. And also, I mean, listen, I don't think anybody, there's plenty of people that live with or have to deal with quite unhealthy families.' Zachary Levi: 'abusive relationships in your life, right? But that said, a lot of people, unfortunately, they see someone on the other side of the political aisle merely by having voted for Trump, if they're from the left, as that's abusive.' Bill Maher: 'That's you. You got canceled for basically saying...' Zachary Levi: 'I mean, listen, I have yet to see what the ultimate effects of all that are going to be. I already had multiple jobs that I was in the process of shooting or that I have yet to shoot, and none of those have been compromised.' Zachary Levi: 'So basically, I was stumping for Bobby. I really wanted Bobby to be my guy.' Zachary Levi: 'just to have a question about something. Yeah, I mean, you're an anti-vaxxer. You're an anti-vaxxer. You're a pro-idiot because you're not looking at the nuance of it.' Zachary Levi: 'So, you know, I've said it a billion times. There are some pathogens out there and possibly to come that I would fight you for the vaccines.' Zachary Levi: 'Just because he calls into question the efficacy and the safety of the current vaccine schedule, the 72 shots that we give the children. It all should be called into question.' Zachary Levi: 'I'm not saying that vaccines writ large are some evil thing. I don't think that either.' Zachary Levi: 'Just enough where it got them just sick enough so that their immune system kicked on and then they had a forever immunization from whatever this thing is.' Zachary Levi: 'And I think it was him who said, actually, what you need to do is take a teeny little bit of like the pus that is coming off of some of these soldiers.' Zachary Levi: 'And it's just, it's that kind of condescension that lost them the election.' Zachary Levi: 'you know, about putting, you know, penises in women's shelters or whatever the fuck that's stupid on the left that they're doing.' Zachary Levi: 'I still think I would never vote for Trump because he doesn't understand about conceding elections.' Zachary Levi: 'Not even for the vaccine thing? They didn't, like, come after you for that?' Zachary Levi: 'I think everything. I think, listen, as with any human being and... our choices for, you know, candidates for president included, no one is perfect.' Zachary Levi: 'He's somebody who's actually like a human being who cares about human beings.' Zachary Levi: 'the thing you got to do in your campaign is marry what you have been known for, which is you're an environmental lawyer, an environmentalist.' Zachary Levi: 'It is ridiculous. I think it's ridiculous. I don't think we should ever have gotten to this place.' Zachary Levi: 'I mean, when you have almost every network television show, other than Fox News, when all the rest are saying Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, and all of his supporters are Nazis...' Bill Maher: 'No, that's not true. Over bullshit. That is not true.' Bill Maher: 'you don't seem like the complete fuck. fucking idiot the people on the left said you were' Bill Maher: 'You must know that you're with a person as a friend, as a lover, whatever, and 80% of it is you're aligned.' Bill Maher: 'Except that they, you know, I don't get the Trump vote because of what I said.' Bill Maher: 'The Democrats, they lost a crazy contest to a crazy person.' Bill Maher: 'They don't really get it about the environment. And the other one is democracy.' Zachary Levi: 'Trump's environmental position is for clean air and clean water.' Zachary Levi: 'Sure. And you were like, I didn't move. I didn't change. I didn't. The boundaries have changed.' Zachary Levi: 'But, like, their thing, you know, my thing with them is you do crazy, nutty shit and have a shitty fucking attitude and...' Zachary Levi: 'Okay, well, first of all, I don't know if he's a rapist. He's certainly a pig.' Zachary Levi: 'It's this unfortunate level of hubris, meaning you and I and a lot of other people that felt very passionately about the candidate we wanted to vote for still, at the end of the day, are willing to have at least enough humility to recognize, I could be wrong.' Zachary Levi: 'And certitude is the hallmark of the person who's not an intellectual.' Zachary Levi: 'I mean, and maybe we have, I think, you know, MSNBC is a giant problem at this point, but don't, but you know, don't, don't tell me that Tucker Carlson isn't.' Bill Maher: 'It came out, his text came out in the lawsuit. I mean, Fox News had to pay $780,000 million dollars.' Bill Maher: 'And again, this is the main difference between the left and the right here. When the left loses an election, yes, they grumble about it and they say things they shouldn't...' Bill Maher: 'Same as this time. Kamala Harris conceded the election, said, I lost.' Zachary Levi: 'I'm not saying that the way that he took that was the right way to do it.' Zachary Levi: 'I feel like I'm the perfect one in this country to bring us together because I never get mad at anybody.' Zachary Levi: 'I would call myself Christian adjacent at this point in my life.' Zachary Levi: 'Is magnificent and all powerful. And like, this is the force in star Wars, like in and through all things.' Zachary Levi: 'No, no, but I'm talking about like bloodline Jewish.' Zachary Levi: 'I think that when you meet someone, when you finally get to a place in your own life when you're really ready for it...' Bill Maher: 'Seriously, but I despise what all of that represents.' Bill Maher: 'I don't understand. What is the harm to society?' Bill Maher: 'And, you know, it is sad. They know nothing. I mean, it's not their fault. They went to school in America where they will let you out of school...' Bill Maher: 'I want to, I can help this person a lot by giving them advice.' Bill Maher: 'Trade on this thing that you're famous for a little bit. Trade the chip in for...' Bill Maher: 'And also, I think it's imperative that anyone who has given these chips for fame and for power recognize that they have a responsibility to use it' Zachary Levi: 'I'm not going to pre-hate anything.' Zachary Levi: 'This country is bloated. It's fucking constipated. It needs a fucking colonic.' Zachary Levi: 'Well, I mean, I say that in like not technical term, but like in the sense of like I've had like pretty hardcore ADHD most all of my life.' Zachary Levi: 'I can't believe people who have to take drugs to feel good.' Zachary Levi: 'Oh yeah like which one oh absolutely Well, I mean, I think that like, you know, fortunately one of the ones that I've done the least amount of is cocaine and it's that, that is, it, well, it, it sucks your soul away.' Zachary Levi: 'I'm very bullish having done a lot of discovering and stuff as I was younger, right? I'm in a place in my life now where I don't see that stuff or try not to see it as more than something that can absolutely be medicinal and beneficial in one's life' Zachary Levi: 'All that stuff saved my life in a lot of ways. And I also learned, I think, some really, oh man, some of the most connected moments I've ever had with God was when I might have been on a soul search with some psilocybin or something like that.' Zachary Levi: 'No. I think that God is kind of... omnipresent in all of that stuff. I don't know that there's, I don't know that God has a gender.' Zachary Levi: 'Well, that was to protect the churches, not the state.' Zachary Levi: 'I love America.' Zachary Levi: 'Okay, that's all I would, I wouldn't even have to go, and I could go on for hours on that subject, but I wouldn't have to say anything more than that.' Zachary Levi: 'Like, I can't say you can't go and do your protest, but that should never be infringing on the rights of anybody else.' Zachary Levi: 'You need a balance, just like we need ying and yang and male and female, plus, of course, trans and gay and bisexual and all the other...' Zachary Levi: 'If you're really trying to get to like why science should be welcoming questions, why any of these ideas should be welcoming questions...' Zachary Levi: 'We can still have turkey together. Absolutely. You can have turkey without calling each other a turkey.' Bill Maher: 'If he would just come down, instead of speaking through whatever clouds or the French toast or the Bible...' Zachary Levi: 'One thing I really do well here, I think, as the hawk to a girl will tell you, is give people advice.' Zachary Levi: 'I don't consider myself religious, but I consider us both to be very deeply spiritual.' Zachary Levi: 'I think that religion is more kind of, you know, found in the ritual.' Zachary Levi: 'The first half, the people who hate Trump hate it because he's a human.' Zachary Levi: 'And, of course, everybody has to be completely confirmed in their ideas.' Zachary Levi: 'It's just the people, again, if you're more moderate, if you're more in the middle, you recognize that everyone is a human being.' Zachary Levi: 'Some of it's just genetic. There's programming in us that they have actually shown to be straight up, literally hereditary.' Zachary Levi: 'Different strokes for different folks, man.' Zachary Levi: 'And yet, what they're really doing, what people are really doing on the internet between porn and OnlyFans, it's just a nation full of freaking freaks and perverts.' Zachary Levi: 'Right now, young lonely boys particularly are spending their life savings on not talking, talking to a girl on OnlyFans and having her do whatever her show is.' Zachary Levi: 'He was one of the OGs that, but again, was a part of the...' Zachary Levi: 'It's not even that it's going to be sentient and turn into Terminator, although there is the possibility of that goes crazy.' Zachary Levi: 'Have you ever been on OnlyFans?' Zachary Levi: 'I'm just saying that's a thing that exists.' Zachary Levi: 'But so many people. So many. Listen, I don't get it.' Zachary Levi: 'Have you ever given a girlfriend like a foot rub or anything?' Zachary Levi: 'because they're feet. I understand that you have an anal type of personality that doesn't like anything like the things you were talking about.' Zachary Levi: 'There's also the list of things that I never did and never want to do.' Zachary Levi: 'That's right. And like skiing is on that list.' Zachary Levi: 'I don't really want hobbies.' Zachary Levi: 'It's almost like sex. It's one of the few things that never disappoints.' Zachary Levi: 'They haven't won since I was in high school.' Zachary Levi: 'They are really good.' Zachary Levi: 'They beat them Nuggets the other night.' Zachary Levi: 'And it feels good to have stuck with them and never wavered all these years.' Zachary Levi: 'Oh, yeah. Oh, you do? Always did.' Zachary Levi: 'Ever since I was a kid, I wanted to be a dad.' Zachary Levi: 'You should play the hot dad role.' Zachary Levi: 'Did you ever see The Crush back in the day with Carrie Elwes and Alicia Silverstone?' Zachary Levi: 'It's kind of a smaller family movie.' Zachary Levi: 'where I play a dad and all of this stuff.' Zachary Levi: 'It's a true story about this couple. They started dating. On their third date, they got pregnant, and they were like, what do you want to do?' Zachary Levi: 'So then we're like, okay, and this is a true story. This real couple.' Zachary Levi: 'And then they get a little older and their oldest son starts behaving in ways that are, you know, not normal, that are atypical.' Zachary Levi: 'And so it's a story about this couple who are still trying to figure out if they're even going to work and their own kind of demons and things they're struggling with while they're trying to raise these two kids...' Zachary Levi: 'He plays Austin, who is this, the most... beautiful, accurate portrayal of, I think, of a child in the autistic spectrum and the beautiful heart and mind of all of that.' Zachary Levi: 'What'd this kid do to God?' Zachary Levi: 'because I've kept you here for long enough.' Zachary Levi: 'And, like, the more friends I have who are Trumpers, the better.' Zachary Levi: 'I could be a superhero's helper like Robin.'

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Key Insights

What is Zachary Levi's stance on cancel culture and its impact on his career?

Zachary Levi has not been officially canceled but acknowledges the possibility. He mentions that none of his ongoing projects have been compromised despite his political views. He plans to discuss the potential impact with his team and remains uncertain about future repercussions.

Why does Zachary Levi support Bobby Kennedy, and what aspects of his campaign align with Levi's views?

Zachary Levi supports Bobby Kennedy primarily due to his views on health and medicine, which align more closely with Levi's own beliefs than Western medicine. Levi appreciates Kennedy's depth, integrity, and willingness to question the efficacy and safety of the current vaccine schedule.

What is Zachary Levi's opinion on the use of vaccines, and how does he differentiate his stance from being labeled anti-vax?

Zachary Levi is not anti-vaccine but believes in questioning the efficacy and safety of the current vaccine schedule. He emphasizes that science should welcome challenges and that questioning vaccines does not equate to being anti-science. He supports vaccines for certain pathogens but criticizes the blanket acceptance of all vaccines without scrutiny.

How does Zachary Levi view the role of family in politics, particularly during the holidays?

Zachary Levi believes that family should transcend politics, criticizing the idea of cutting off family members over political disagreements. He acknowledges that some families may be unhealthy or abusive but argues that merely voting for Trump should not be seen as abusive behavior. He advocates for maintaining family ties despite political differences.

What is Zachary Levi's perspective on the influence of media on political polarization?

Zachary Levi criticizes the media for exacerbating political polarization by labeling Trump supporters as Nazis and spreading fear. He believes that this rhetoric has led to unnecessary animosity and division, particularly among families. Levi argues that media should promote balanced discussions rather than sensationalism.

What is Zachary Levi's view on the role of humility in political discourse?

Zachary Levi emphasizes the importance of humility in political discussions, stating that true intellectuals acknowledge the possibility of being wrong. He believes that certitude and self-righteousness hinder productive conversations and that humility can help bridge political divides.

How does Zachary Levi describe his spiritual beliefs and their influence on his life?

Zachary Levi describes himself as deeply spiritual but not religious. He believes in a God that is omnipresent and all-powerful, similar to the concept of the Force in Star Wars. His spiritual beliefs have influenced his approach to life, relationships, and personal growth, emphasizing love and connection.

What is Zachary Levi's opinion on the impact of AI and its potential consequences?

Zachary Levi is concerned about the rapid development of AI, particularly its potential to displace entire industries and create AI-driven sex bots. He warns that AI could lead to societal issues, including the erosion of human connections and the rise of virtual relationships. Levi supports cautious advancement in AI technology.

What is Zachary Levi's perspective on the role of education in shaping societal values?

Zachary Levi criticizes the American education system for failing to equip students with essential knowledge, leading to widespread ignorance on basic topics like history and geography. He believes that the lack of quality education contributes to societal issues and that the Democratic Party, which often focuses on education, should be held accountable.

How does Zachary Levi view the relationship between politics and personal relationships?

Zachary Levi believes that personal relationships should be prioritized over political differences. He advocates for maintaining connections with family and friends, even when political views diverge. Levi emphasizes the importance of understanding and accepting differing opinions to foster healthy relationships.

Chapters
This chapter explores the divisive issue of family estrangement due to political disagreements, particularly focusing on the impact of the 2020 election and the varying reactions to it. The discussion touches upon the lack of common sense and the role of social media in exacerbating the situation.
  • Political divisions impacting family relationships
  • The role of social media in fueling conflict
  • Varying reactions to the 2020 election

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