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Everything you want to know: Gary and Andrew Pt.1

2024/12/28
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I Catch Killers with Gary Jubelin

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Gary Jubelin: 警探工作充满挑战,需要处理各种各样的案件,从琐碎的法律问题到严重的凶杀案,工作强度大,需要在黑暗中寻找光明。他加入警队并非出于崇高的理想,而是因为觉得这份工作很有趣。他经历过被驱逐出飞机、被攻击犬袭击等事件,也曾对一些政府决策感到不满。在审讯过程中,他会根据事实和直觉来判断,有时会采取强硬的策略,但也注重尊重和理解。他认为破案需要团队合作和技能,并对那些通过努力最终破获的案件感到自豪。他曾对无辜的人采取过强硬的审讯策略,事后感到内疚,但他认为如果他的亲人被杀害,他也希望警察能够全力以赴。他怀念警探工作带给他的满足感和兴奋感,但也承认这份工作会让人上瘾。离开警队后,他经历了艰难的时期,但他努力重新开始,并为自己的新事业感到自豪。 Andrew Hamilton: 作为一名喜剧演员,他经常被问及警探工作相关的问题。他曾在监狱服刑,对监狱的管理制度提出过质疑。他认为一些警察和狱警非常遵守规则,而有些罪犯的愚蠢行为反而让他们显得聪明。他与Gary Jubelin分享了自己被捕的经历,并认为人生中的低谷可能成为转机。 Manny Carudis: 他分享了自己在一次秘密行动中被攻击犬袭击的经历,以及如何处理受伤同事的紧急情况。

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Why did Gary Jubelin join the police force?

Gary joined the police force after seeing two cops chase a bad guy while he was working as an electrician on a building site. He thought it looked like fun and was drawn to the idea of good versus evil, rather than any noble intentions to improve society.

What was one of the most dramatic incidents Gary experienced during his career?

Gary was involved in a covert operation to catch a drug plantation owner in a national park. During the operation, he and his partner were attacked by guard dogs. They managed to fend off the dogs with lumps of wood, but another officer was severely injured after being attacked and accidentally shooting part of his hand off while trying to defend himself.

What is Gary's perspective on the dumbest criminals he has encountered?

Gary notes that some criminals are surprisingly smart in their dumbness. He recalls instances where he laid out overwhelming evidence, such as fingerprints and photos, only for the suspect to still deny involvement. He also mentions a prisoner who escaped but was caught simply by asking if he should be in prison, to which the prisoner embarrassedly replied 'yes.'

How does Gary feel about the use of 'good cop, bad cop' tactics in interrogations?

Gary believes 'good cop, bad cop' is an effective tactic because it plays on human nature—people naturally gravitate toward someone showing empathy. He also notes that confessions often come from the suspect's desire to unburden themselves, rather than intimidation.

What is Gary's proudest moment in his career as a homicide detective?

Gary is most proud of cases where he and his team brought their skills to solve challenging investigations. He specifically mentions the reinvestigation of the murders of Evelyn Clinton and Colleen in an Indigenous community, where he felt he made a significant difference in showing that the police cared.

How does Gary feel about his departure from the police force?

Gary describes his departure as a difficult and unfair experience, especially since policing was his passion. He felt it was unjustly taken away from him, but he has since channeled his energy into a media career, where he continues to make a difference through his podcast and involvement in justice committees.

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Why did Gary join the police? Why was he kicked off a plane? Why was he attacked by dogs during a covert operation? Who are the dumbest crooks? In this end of year special, ex magic mushroom dealer Andrew Hamilton is asking Gary Jubelin the tough questions. This is everything you wanted to know - and nothing is off limits.

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