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Moms, Prophecies, and oh ya Orpheus is there too... KAOS Takeover w/ Christie Vogler and Anastasia Pantazopoulou (Part 2)

2025/7/4
logo of podcast Let's Talk About Myths, Baby! Greek & Roman Mythology Retold

Let's Talk About Myths, Baby! Greek & Roman Mythology Retold
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Anastasia Pantazopoulou
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Christy Vogler
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Michaela
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Anastasia Pantazopoulou: 在《混沌》中，我主要关注阿里阿德涅、瑞迪和卡纽斯这三个凡人角色，他们都与宙斯分享着预言，但他们并不知道。剧集赋予了这些角色在希腊神话中没有的自主性，通过反转他们神话故事中的关键方面来赋予他们自主性。例如，瑞迪决定跟随奥尔甫斯进入冥界，因为她有更大的目标要实现；卡纽斯决定改变性别，然后成为了一个给予生命而不是夺走生命的角色；阿里阿德涅想要为她的人民而战，她留在克里特岛，成为了人民的领袖。这三个角色走到一起，并通过与母亲重建关系或与其他在性别或社会地位上处于边缘地位的角色建立新的联系，从而创造了一个赋权的乌托邦。 Christy Vogler: 这三个角色不仅共享预言，而且她们与母亲的关系也很复杂，这种复杂性在某种程度上也是出于预言的需要。这些母亲似乎对孩子们更大的目标有更清晰的认识，她们知道这会疏远彼此的关系，但她们仍然必须坚持下去。剧中唯一真正的母亲形象是赫拉，但我们没有看到她作为母亲的一面。 Michaela: 这部剧中的所有母亲都扮演着重要的角色，并在各自的社区中发挥着重要的作用。瑞迪和卡纽斯的母亲意识到有一个更大的计划，他们的孩子是其中的一部分，并且对这个计划很重要，因此她们做出了牺牲。这也展示了母亲对孩子的深爱，以及她们希望孩子成功、做得更好、更快乐的愿望。

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Welcome back for a slightly late part two of a KAOS Takeover episode with Michaela Pangowish, Christie Vogler, and special guest Anastasia Pantazopoulou. This time we talked about all the mortals bouncing around in the series, from our deep love of Caeneus to our fascination with Orpheus (what is he even doing?), and all the moms we met along the way.

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CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. I try to provide direct warnings when there is reference to anything with overtly traumatic themes but be aware that Greek mythology regularly features assault, death, and many other potentially triggering events.

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