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How to improve your posture

2025/1/21
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Marielle: 我注意到很多人长时间保持不良坐姿,例如像虾一样蜷缩着。这虽然短时间内问题不大,但长期保持会引发疼痛。改善姿势的第一步是了解自己的习惯性姿势,找出导致疼痛的根源。我们可以想象身体的各个关节像星星一样,组成一个星座,观察这些星座的模式,就能发现重复出现的姿势。 此外,我们还需要定期进行姿势调整,例如短暂的运动、伸展等,来缓解长时间保持同一姿势带来的影响。我们可以设置一些环境提示,提醒自己定期进行姿势调整,也可以通过一些游戏来进行姿势调整,例如模仿动物或字母的姿势。 最后,改善姿势也需要调整环境,例如调整办公桌椅和电脑屏幕的高度,使之更符合人体工程学。如果疼痛严重或持续存在,应寻求专业人士的帮助。 Lita Malik: 长时间保持不良姿势会导致疼痛,但短时间内问题不大。良好的姿势因人而异,关键在于舒适和适应性,而不是外在美观。改善姿势需要了解自己的习惯性姿势,并定期进行调整,例如进行一些简单的伸展运动。 在工作场所,经常活动可能会被认为是不专业的,但实际上活动对身体健康和工作效率有益。我们需要调整办公环境,例如电脑屏幕高度、键盘位置、椅子舒适度等,以改善姿势和疼痛。 Katie Bowman: 长时间保持同一姿势会使身体僵硬,需要通过活动来改善。良好的姿势是通过终生保持身体的多样化姿势获得的,而不是仅仅保持一种姿势。我们可以通过‘墙面测试’来客观地评估身体的排列和活动范围。 长期重复相同的姿势会使身体适应这种姿势,导致骨骼和肌肉的改变,最终影响身体的体验。我们需要给身体提供更多姿势选择,避免长期保持单一姿势。要关注身体发出的需要活动的信号,例如不停地抖腿或敲打手指,并根据这些信号进行调整。检查髋部和下背部的排列,确保骨盆位置正确,可以改善下背部的疼痛。

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This chapter defines good posture as dynamic and adaptable to various activities, unlike the misconception of rigid uprightness. It emphasizes identifying repetitive body shapes and their potential harm, suggesting an exercise to visualize 'constellations' formed by body joints to pinpoint problematic habits.
  • Good posture is dynamic and adaptable, not statically upright.
  • Repetitive body shapes can lead to pain and injury.
  • Visualize body joints as constellations to identify habitual postures.

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Have you ever seen that meme of a shrimp in a desk chair? Normally, I try not to explain memes or jokes, but this one's pretty straightforward. You know how shrimpies get curled up into sort of a hook shape? Imagine that, but sitting in a desk chair, trying to fill out an Excel spreadsheet. A lot of us sit like this, or in equally tortured positions. And that's bad.

Right? I always laugh as a physical therapist because people send it to me all the time. But the reality is, it's not so much the posture in itself, but the time and the

And the amount of movement that we actually get throughout the day to interrupt those stagnant positions. That's Lita Malik. She's a physical therapist and author of the book Science of Stretch. And she says if you hold your body in a shrimp-like shape for a short amount of time, probably not a huge deal. If you do it all day, every day, that's when you start hurting.

Katie Bowman is a biomechanist, which means she studies the effects that physical forces have on the body. She says you may have felt this effect after a long time in transit, when everything in your body feels stiff. Usually on a plane or a car, you don't get to have any movement breaks whatsoever. You're really, really stuck in a position. So what do you do in those moments? You shake out your muscles, stretch, and move your body into other positions.

Katie, who wrote a book called Rethink Your Position, says doing that throughout your life is what leads to good posture. We've got so many parts and I don't think we're really fluent in all the options that we have for positions, despite the number of joints and hinges and levers that really allow us to assume many different shapes. We're kind of stuck in the same set of shapes.

On this episode of Life Kit, how to improve your posture. We'll talk about what posture is exactly, how to know if yours is serving your body, and what you can do throughout the day to mix up the shapes your body is making.

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Lita Malik, the physical therapist, says it's not that. And it's not as simple as saying sit up straight. In reality, that posture, it may not be right for everyone and every single body. So really, the best posture is one that's fit for the things that you need to be doing and one that is adaptive and dynamic and one that you can change in and out of. Good posture isn't about how you look. It's not about being graceful or ladylike.

It's about how your body feels. So good posture is one that is dynamic, one that is not susceptible to pain as often as possible, and one that is best fit for what you need to get done. And bad posture is a set of patterns that cause you pain or make you prone to injury over time. The way you hunch over when you're washing the dishes or bend down to do your laundry or strain your neck reading in bed at night.

Takeaway one. The first step in fixing your posture and eliminating posture-induced pain is to drill down into your habits. What shapes are you making all the time? And what do you never do? Take a moment right now and check in with your body. Does anything hurt or ache? Have you noticed the pain before? Any idea when it started or what triggers it?

Here's an exercise that can help you go a little deeper on that. Imagine a star placed at every one of your joints, on your wrist, your elbow, your shoulders, one on your head and one on each vertebrae of the spine and your hips and your knees. And then ask yourself, what constellation am I making?

the bulk of the day. And you start to recognize that there's probably some repetition around the way that particular area that's alerting you or flaring up for you is positioned. Maybe you feel tightness in your shoulder blade. If you feel that most when you wake up, the problem could be your sleeping postures. You might notice like, oh, that shoulder that, yes, gets sort of folded underneath me when I'm sleeping, that it makes this particular arm constellation at night.

I notice that's really similar to the same arm constellation that I'm making at work. And that arm constellation is also showing up when I'm driving. And you start to see yourself as a collection of shapes. You might also realize, huh, I've been carrying a heavy tote bag on that shoulder. That's probably not helping. Looking at the constellations your body makes throughout the day will reveal your habits. And we have a lot of asymmetrical habits. And so over time...

You feel the effects of not having movement really distributed throughout the body. Your body adapts to you repeatedly making these shapes. Now your bone mass is slightly adapted to...

the way you load your leg bones, you know, throughout the day. And you've got just a little bit more tension in the parts that have to shorten, you know, to accommodate the fact that you slouch in one particular direction and they get more etched into the body. And then over time, that becomes our physical experience. Katie has another tip to help you check on your body's alignment and what shapes you're repeatedly making. It's called the wall test. You

You can use this one if you're able to stand. Put a wall behind you and let your hips out.

sit against the wall. Your heels don't need to touch the wall. They can be a few inches out to give your butt some space. Bring your middle back against the wall and then try to bring your head back there at the same time. And what many people will find is their upper back has become so stiff. That constellation of the upper back is really curved forward and that shape has become more etched in than they realize.

that the only way they can get their head back against the wall or their shoulders back against the wall is by really arching their lower back. And so the wall is just a really great tool to help you

Get an objective measure for how your body parts are able to articulate. I did this in the studio during our interview, and Katie also had me reach my arms out to the side against the wall. And your arm, can your wrists touch while all those other pieces stay on the wall? Yeah. And then you can go overhead. Do my hands go above my head? Can my wrists touch the wall there without making... That's not, that needs some work. Do we find one? Do we find a spot? Yeah.

Yeah, there's not. Well, one of them can, but the other one can't quite. Right. And that's a big part of that asymmetry too. You know, there's just injuries, there's hobbies or habits that we all have that will etch in these just different ways of using our body. But without checking in with your ranges of motion and the way things are stacking and able to articulate relative to each other,

you just miss out that things are declining. You start to go, wow, I don't know when my hips got so tight. I don't know when I stopped being able to get my arms overhead. And then it becomes, I didn't know when I lost the ability to get up and down off the floor. And a lot of that is being set now just in

The fact that we're not utilizing a large number of shapes, we're kind of stuck in these same repetitive shapes and those shapes are leaving, they're leaving their mark. This isn't to say that we always need to move perfectly evenly or symmetrically, but we want to start giving our bodies more options. Takeaway two, create moments of posture counter-programming.

Let's say you're a desk worker and you spend most of the day sitting in the same position. Just stepping away and doing a three-minute workout, walking, doing lunges up and down your room or whatever it might be. That could help a lot. Now, if you have mobility restrictions or you can't do standing exercises, Lita recommends a seated cat-cow stretch, a seated hamstring stretch, a cross-body arm stretch, or some rotations in your chair. Basically, you want to put your body in as many different shapes as possible in that one-minute break.

Here's Katie. Just shake up your hands, reach them over the head, you know, bend to the right, bend to the left. Now, if you work on your feet in retail or at a warehouse, for instance, your posture breaks are going to look different. Typical movement breaks for that person might include actually sitting down for a bit, again, stretching the hip rotators, the hip flexors, standing up, stretching the calves, maybe even doing some calf raises. Lita recommends stretching your back too, especially if you're lifting heavy trays or boxes.

And Katie says you can create natural cues so these movement breaks become second nature, like changing positions every time you cross something off your to-do list or touching the top of the door frame each time you leave a room. Create these little environmental cues that just remind me that these parts are

need movement, then my shoulder position when I go back to sitting at a desk and, you know, writing a book or working on a piece doesn't really bother me because I've nourished my shoulder and all these other positions just for minutes here or there sprinkled throughout the day. Here's another fun idea. Try a game of solo charades. You're going to contort your body to look like an animal or a fruit or a vegetable or a letter of the alphabet.

I find bananas are a good starting point. Elephant works well for me too. And giraffe is good if you really want to stretch your neck. The whole point is you're just trying to not do what you've just done for the hour leading up to that or the three hours or the six hours or the 16 years. But movement breaks are only part of the equation. Takeaway three, adjust your environment.

If you're constantly feeling pain in a part of your body, these body resets do help. But it's possible something's just wonky with your work setup or your sleep setup. That pain could vanish with some small tweaks. Think about the body constellations you made earlier. If you figured out that your arm is being pinned in a certain way when you're sleeping, then you might want to place pillows in a way that...

make it so that you're not pressing on certain areas. Or consider how you're sitting in your chair at the office. Do you slump back a lot or perch at the top of it? Put more weight on one leg or the other? Do you have to crane your neck up to look at your monitor or reach your arms out really far to type on your keyboard? Lita says when it comes to your desk setup, everything that you need to reach repetitively should be comfortable. Make sure that whatever it is you're looking at most, maybe that's your monitor, that

At the top of that screen is at or about eye level with you, give or take a few degrees. Another aspect is bringing it close enough to you so you don't have to peer forward. Next, let's adjust your keyboard. Keeping the keyboard at or... We suggest around 90 degrees at the elbows with some support for your wrist so that you're not reaching too far and your wrist isn't flexed too far up because that's a sustained posture that might aggravate...

For example, the carpal tunnel. Now let's do your desk chair. Do you feel comfortable and supported in the one you have? Are your feet swinging off the ground or resting firmly on the floor? You want something that allows your thigh to sit in the depth of the chair comfortably. The seat cushion should be about a couple inches behind your knee. So if your leg is going off of the seat, you should have a couple inches before you feel your knee.

feet flat on the ground, some support for your elbows and your shoulders. If your pain doesn't go away with these kinds of tweaks or if it's getting worse, there is professional help out there. If you have an area that's become very acutely injured and you're noticing other symptoms, you know, radiating pain and things that feel nervy or just the activities of daily living are being hindered because you can't

walk on a particular joint, then you want to go check in and have an evaluation. You can go see a primary care doctor or an orthopedist and also look for a physical therapist in your area.

As I was talking to Katie about taking movement breaks throughout the day and getting up to stretch my body, I thought back on all the times in my life when that behavior was frowned upon. At my first job, working for a financial magazine, one of the executives complained to HR that I was getting up from my desk too much to go to the bathroom or the kitchen to chat with a colleague.

It's like they expected their employees to be robots who could sit at a desk without moving, typing away for eight hours straight. Well, it's acting. You know, you're basically acting. You're like, I will act like a person who doesn't need to move.

I told Katie, that has never felt right in my body. I guess I would describe myself as having sort of a restless energy in my body and I need to like get up and move and stand and stretch and do all these things or else, I don't know, I'll just start to fall asleep or I'll feel really, really like pent up. And socially, that wasn't really accepted for a long time. I think...

A lot of that starts in school. There's a big assumption that if people are moving and taking care of their body's physical needs, that they can't possibly address their educational or, you know, mental productivity. But I think that there's a lot more evidence just to the contrary of that.

That if you are someone who needs to move, that moving can really help regulate yourself. It's really just the ability to fidget. Embracing your fidget, especially if it helps you stay more focused in what you're doing. Embrace the fidget. That's our fourth and final takeaway. So much of life trains us to be sedentary, to unlearn all of the ways we moved our bodies as kids.

Let's push back on that. Let the people fidget. It is a way of distributing load and it's a very easy way to meet more of the body's needs to move. Katie says if you're feeling self-conscious about leaving your desk to do some squats or make the shape of a banana, remember. You know, you can only focus and think really as much as you can based on how your body's biological needs are met and movement is a tremendous tool.

biological need. Also, think about all the ways your body is trying to shake itself out. Do you bounce your knee all the time? Drum your fingers? She says those little movement quirks we have are impulses worth listening to. I would teach that those fidgeting signals are more like hunger signals. We really need a language for, oh, my body's telling me it needs to change shapes right now and do a

Okay, Katie has one final tip for you to check on the alignment of your hips and lower back. This is a problem area for a lot of folks. She says a lot of us have this habitual standing posture where we push our pelvis and hips forward. So that your pelvis is placing more weight on the front of your foot over your toes than it is the heels. To see if you're doing this, take off your shoes, stand up, and see if you can lift your toes.

if that feels impossible. Back your hips up so that the pelvis is stacked more over the heel and less over the middle or the front of the foot so that you can lift your toes all the way up. And that simple adjustment

It changes the way your lower back is articulating. If this feels really good, remember that posture the next time you're, for instance, washing dishes. If you notice your hips are resting against the counter, pull them back. It's like an instant lower body makeover just by backing the hips up. Do you think that this is what Juvenal was talking about when he said back that ass up? I'm almost certain that's what he was talking about. He cares about your posture. He cares about the load on your lower back. Who doesn't?

Who doesn't? I mean, that's a community service song, ultimately. All right, it's time for a recap.

Takeaway one, you can map out your most common body constellations to determine which parts of your body are overworked or neglected. That can help you find the root of the pain you might be experiencing. Takeaway two, start to fill in those gaps with little movement cues. Do some squats or lunges or overhead reaches whenever you check an item off your daily list. If you're on your feet a lot throughout the day, find some time to sit and rotate your back muscles.

This can also be less formal. Touch the top of the doorway every time you leave the room. Make animal poses or shape your body like letters or numbers. Takeaway three, adjust your most common environments for maximum comfort. Get that desk chair and monitor just right or use that body pillow while you're sleeping.

And takeaway four, embrace the fidget. When you're feeling antsy, your body is trying to tell you something. It's probably saying, hey, I could really use a stretch break right now. Or this sitting position is uncomfortable. So listen and move accordingly, no matter what other people say.

For more Life Kit, check out our other episodes. We've got one on the best stretches for preventing chronic pain and another on how to heal from an injury. You can find those at npr.org slash life kit. And if you love Life Kit and want even more, subscribe to our newsletter at npr.org slash life kit newsletter. Also, we love hearing from you. So if you have episode ideas or feedback you want to share, email us at lifekit at npr.org.

This episode of Life Kit was produced by Margaret Serino. Our visuals editor is Beck Harlan, and our digital editor is Malika Gareeb. Megan Cain is our supervising editor, and Beth Donovan is our executive producer. Our production team also includes Andy Tegel, Claire Marie Schneider, and Sylvie Douglas. Engineering support comes from Robert Rodriguez. I'm Mariel Segara. Thanks for listening.