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Some trade deficit whiplash

2025/6/5
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Diane Swonk: 四月份美国贸易逆差显著收窄,但这主要是前期关税政策变动导致的结果。医药品进口的减少是主要因素,因为企业为了避免关税,提前在第一季度增加了进口量。此外,一季度黄金进口量激增,导致四月份的需求下降。我认为新的关税政策对制造业产生了一些负面影响,部分制造商因为零部件供应中断而被迫停产。虽然钢铁关税在短期内可能增加了钢铁行业的就业,但长期来看,由于投入成本的增加,制造业整体就业受到了损害。 Shannon Grein: 我认为关税的影响正在渗透到服务业。即使服务业公司不直接销售商品,他们也需要购买各种受关税影响的商品来维持运营。例如,新餐厅需要购买受关税影响的照明设备、桌椅等。许多食品服务、零售以及金融和保险公司都报告说,五月份的运营成本有所上升。然而,目前尚不清楚这种价格上涨的压力是否会持续,我们需要几个月的时间才能确定。 Betsy Stevenson: 我观察到企业一直在积极应对关税带来的影响,许多企业在四月份增加了库存,以应对未来可能的价格上涨。然而,随着库存逐渐消耗,他们将不得不以更高的价格重新进货。我认为企业为应对关税所做的努力开始显得不足,消费者将逐渐感受到关税带来的压力,尤其是在夏季。所以,我认为关税的影响是多方面的,它不仅影响了贸易平衡,也影响了企业的运营成本和消费者的购买力。

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The US trade deficit saw a record shrinkage in April, following its largest ever increase in the first quarter. This fluctuation is partly due to front-running of tariffs on pharmaceuticals from Ireland and a surge in gold imports from Switzerland in the previous quarter. The impact of new tariffs on employment is yet to be fully seen.
  • Record shrinkage of the US trade deficit in April
  • Significant reduction in imports from Ireland (pharmaceuticals)
  • Large gold bullion imports from Switzerland in Q1
  • Limited impact of tariffs on earlier employment reports
  • Plummeting optimism index of the National Association for Manufacturers

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Hey there, and thanks for listening. We want to know more about our audience. Stick around at the end of this episode to hear about how you can help provide feedback and have a chance to walk away with a $75 gift card. Some states look at prediction markets online and say, wait, isn't that just betting?

I'm David Brancaccio in Los Angeles. First, there's news the difference between what America imports and what it exports shrank by the most ever recorded in a single month. Goods and services imports way, way down. But to understand what really happened in April, you have to appreciate what happened the month before, given changing trade policy. Diane Swonk is chief economist at the audit tax and advisory firm KPMG.

It's a bit of whiplash here. We saw 55.5% narrowing of the trade deficit in April. That is simply stunning. And it follows the largest widening of the trade deficit in the first quarter on record. Now, a big part of that narrowing was a reduction in imports from Ireland.

of all places? Well, guess what we get from Ireland? Pharmaceuticals. And in fact, we saw a lot of front running of tariffs. Pharmaceuticals are actually on the list of things to be tariffed even separately, in addition to the country 10% tariffs that we see out there. And there was a lot of front running in the first quarter. So we didn't see as many in April. And what's this with Switzerland? We actually imported a lot more something here. I mean, it's not cuckoo clocks.

It's gold bullion. We imported a ton of gold bullion in the first quarter from Switzerland. And so now that we got it here, we don't need to import it again. Now, tomorrow will be the big employment report and the big hiring report. We didn't see the new tariffs reflected much in the employment reports from the earlier month. You think we'll start seeing it tomorrow?

We could see a very minor imprint from the New Terras on manufacturing activities. Some manufacturers actually had to idle production because some parts didn't make it in already due to disruptions from trade. And the manufacturing sector, certainly the National Association for Manufacturers, their optimism index absolutely plummeted.

in May. And that was before we saw the steel tariffs. We know from 2018, 2019, the steel tariffs of only 25 percent, and this is now at 50 percent. On top of that, those steel tariffs actually created 1,000 jobs in the steel industry at the expense of 75,000 in manufacturing because of higher input costs. Diane Swonk, Chief Economist, KPMG. Thank you for the briefing. Thank you.

Maybe the clip art for economic output might be a factory with a smokestack, but the service sector is also a huge part of what we do. And there is news service sector activity has fallen for the first time in about a year. The May data is from a survey conducted by the Institute for Supply Management. It found a lot of business people focused on tariffs. Marketplace's Henry Epp has that.

Higher import taxes are trickling into the service sector because even if they're not selling goods, service companies have to buy goods to operate. And a lot of those goods were subject to new tariffs last month. Take a new restaurant, for example, says Shannon Grein, an economist at Wells Fargo. You need the lighting and you need the chairs and you need the tables and you need all the things that set that operation up.

Companies in food service to retail to finance and insurance all reported paying more for the stuff they needed in May, according to the ISM. But what's not clear yet, Grind says. How sustained or sticky is this price pressure? It'll take a few months to find out.

What this report does show is businesses across the economy have been trying to prepare for the impact of tariffs. Many stocked up in April, but as they work through that inventory, they'll have to restock at higher prices, says Betsy Stevenson at the University of Michigan. So now, she says, The things companies have done to try to brace for the storm, it's starting to not be enough.

And soon, she says, consumers will start to feel more of a pinch from tariffs as the summer goes on. I'm Henry Epp for Marketplace. Stock markets now open and the Dow is down 114 points, three-tenths of a percent. The S&P and the Nasdaq are both down two-tenths percent. The European Central Bank was able to cut interest rates by one-quarter of a percentage point this morning, with inflation there dwindling. ♪

A court decision before the last presidential election allowed companies to take bets on who would win. You can also buy predictive contracts for all sorts of things, from your view on what the Federal Reserve would do on interest rates to who will win the Oscar for, say, best picture. But some states see this as gambling and want to treat predictive contracts as such. WYPR's Scott Massione reports.

Predictive contracts let people with a hunch try to cash in on that hunch for guesses about all kinds of things. Who might be the next Nobel Peace Prize winner or how many tornadoes will hit the U.S. this month? The options are taking trading apps by storm. CalShe, the predictive market company, now pairs with online brokerage platform Robinhood to offer the options. Sarah Slain's the head of corporate development for CalShe. We do think that this is going to be one of the largest financial instruments that's out there.

Trade prices fluctuate on demand, but the payout is always $1 per contract. So traders could buy 10 contracts predicting which team will win the NBA final. And if they're right, they get 10 bucks. If they're wrong, they get nothing. According to Slane, Kalshi processed more than a billion dollars in prediction trades this year for just two events, the Super Bowl and March Madness. It's capitalizing on predictions that traders have already been making for years.

Like GDP growth rates, inflation levels, unemployment, weather derivatives. Johnny El-Hashim is a partner at Holland & Knight who specializes in gaming regulation. But what is happening now is that we're, I could say we're like at a crossroads where financial innovation and public regulation are colliding in a way.

They're colliding because six states now say the contracts are essentially bets and are not properly regulated or taxed. They've issued cease and desist letters to Kalshi and Robinhood. It's a classic battle of state versus federal jurisdiction. At the end of the day, this is a federalism fight. Andrew Kim's a partner specializing in gambling at the law firm Goodwin. Congress left it unclear as to what kind of role that the state regulators should play in this space.

As of now, the states seem to be losing. The Federal Commodity Futures Trading Commission gave Calchi approval for trades last year, and state attempts to challenge that in court have so far failed. I'm Scott Mascione for Marketplace.

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