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'You Didn't Hear This From Me' is Kelsey McKinney's gossip bible
2025/3/4
NPR's Book of the Day
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Andrew Limbaugh
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Kelsey McKinney
Kelsey McKinney: 我在福音派教会长大，从小被教导闲聊是罪恶，但这并没有阻止我对它的兴趣。我的新书《你没从我这里听到这个》探讨了闲聊作为一种中性社会工具的本质。它既非绝对好也非绝对坏，关键在于使用方式。它可以帮助我们建立联系，也可以造成伤害。在真人秀节目中，我们可以在没有个人风险的情况下观察人们的行为，并从中学习社交技巧。闲聊也具有实用性，例如在#MeToo运动中，女性通过闲聊互相保护，建立团结。我们应该关注自己的身体感受和偏见，来更好地利用闲聊理解自己和世界。
Andrew Limbaugh: 访谈中，McKinney 指出闲聊本身没有固有的道德价值，它像任何工具一样，好坏取决于使用方式。
Juana Summers: (角色为访谈者，没有表达核心观点，故不列入此部分)
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Andrew Limbaugh: 'In this interview with NPR's Juana Summers, McKinney makes the point that gossip doesn't have inherent moral value. It's not good. It's not bad. It is a tool like any other. But it's how we use that tool that dictates who gossip helps and who it hurts.'
Kelsey McKinney: 'I think reality television gives you the ability to talk about people and the way they behave without any personal stakes....But part of that is also social learning, which I think is so fascinating and so fun and a great excuse to consume way more reality television.'
Kelsey McKinney: 'Yeah. So something that I consider gossip and that is gossip definitionally is something like a whisper network. So the idea that people are talking to each other in order to protect themselves from someone in power. A great example of this is the Me Too movement, where you have women talking to each other and saying, hey, I'm...We need to be careful about this.'
Kelsey McKinney: 'It sounds a little woo-woo, but I do think you know if you're crossing some kind of line if it feels bad in your body....So if you can pay attention to the way that you talk to people and the way that they talk back to you, you can start realizing the parts of the world that you're biased against.'
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