Welcome everyone to Politically High Tech with your host Elias. This is going to be the last episode of the season, number 270. Yep, 270.

OK, and I want to end it with a more positive note. You know how crazy it is in here, not just politically. I always give the political example class a major one, but even among families, personal issues, you owe me money or you did me wrong when you took on a boyfriend or girlfriend or something like that.

And another thing, I'm going to bring the tech aspect, the high tech aspect of it. Technology, you're over-dependent on technology, decreasing the overall human interaction. I'm not against technology. I'm a tech user. But there's just a lack of balance, especially with work these days. Everything is very computer-oriented, even smartphone-oriented.

I ain't that good with smartphones at work, I'm going to be honest. All right, you call me a new boomer, or you want an echo boomer, that thing that's called these ungrateful youngins. But anyways, we started exhibiting some of those traits. You know, aging is funny. That's what I'm going to say. Aging is funny. But enough of my yammering. I want to talk about a topic I think has been buzzing for years.

For years, this is not a new trend. Thank goodness, because a lot of new trends tend to be stupid. And I'm going to be honest, I think this trend is debatable. I could see an argument for this. Work balance life, people working longer, not getting paid as much, less vacations. This comes from various surveys, too. So I think that's an epidemic we need to address, not just...

you know, the virus that caused a lot of disruptions and restrictions through our governments. I would say limited data analysis is a put nicely, but we need to work by life balance because yeah, it's nice to work from home and virtually and all that, but it also blurs also creates that, that loophole that some employer or coworker could just disrespect. Oh, I need help with this.

They could give you an email at midnight and you see it. And especially you're you look at your phone at night, you get a little disturbed. So I think we need a little bit of a bounce here. Why I mention all this because it's work balanced life and there's ways to disrupt that more than ever with technology. Ironically, you know, technology is marketed as the most convenient tool, but that's not always the case, especially the way we use that. All right. So I'm going to actually shut up and let my lovely guests here talk.

Her name is Arlene Cohen Miller. She is going to be our spiritual coach slash advisor here. You know, right before we start, I was going to give her like the spiritual lawyer thing, but she no longer does that. I would have said that I would have caused deception and misinformation. And I'm trying to be more careful in the misinformation part, not the freedom of speech part.

Just in the fact that it's incorrect and it could cause unintentional deception. So I was like, I'll try to come up with a nickname for these people. I'll just toss it out. So that was a so that's just, you know, the cutting board. It's crap. It's a bad idea. So let's toss out the window.

But I'm just being brutal. I'm just telling you how I think sometimes. Sometimes it's weird as heck. Feel free to comment on that if you want to. I don't know if you're frustrated to get out on me. Go right ahead. Your your comments will be exposed. And, you know, you might get support as a haters. It's up to you. So let's welcome her. OK, Arlene Cohen Miller. And what do you want the listeners and the viewers to know about you before we get started?

Well, I do have a legal career. You know, I was 15. I decided I was going to become an attorney. I did become an attorney.

And I've had two law firms, one in a suburb of Cleveland, Ohio, and one in a suburb of Denver. And I've been a family law attorney for divorce and custody and stuff like that. I've also been a commercial attorney just helping businesses collect their debts. And I've enjoyed that. And I guess the reason I'm a work-life balance coach is that when I opened my law firm, I was a solo practitioner in a little storefront office.

Three years out of law school, I immediately found out I was pregnant.

All my family was back in Kentucky. I was up in Ohio. And my ex-husband was working 70 or 80 hours a week. And I had to sort of like build a tribe of people to help support me to start a business, to get a business off the ground, to be a parent. And there weren't any coaches like what I do. You know, there were counselors, there were psychologists, there were psychiatrists. But that wasn't really what I needed. And I just feel like a lot of people could really use help

balance and harmony to their work and personal life. And since I had to sort of invent it on my own, you know, that's where that bit of me comes from. And after my film was done, I moved to Colorado, bought into a law firm there doing commercial law and

About six years before we sold the business, I got a diploma in transformational holistic counseling and in coaching and mentoring and certification in meditation because it just felt like in law school, I wasn't really taught how to listen. I wasn't really taught how to do things to really negotiate settlements in a way that I actually heard, validated, and sort of partnered with people to come to resolutions of situations. So I

I really felt like I needed that additional help. And I did incorporate that into my business. I thought it helped a lot. I found out what a lousy listener I was and applied it there. And I just got really tired of practicing law. And so we sold the business. And now I have a business called Jewel Consultancy, and I do focus on coaching and mentoring. I also throw in soul readings, too, which is a little bit of spiritual bent of it. And so that's a little bit about me.

Well, no one can say you failed as an entrepreneur, that's for sure. You had multiple law firms, you sold them, hey, that's pretty successful. Hey, you know, I think one would ask...

What made you go to the spiritual coaching holistic path? Because some people just don't mind being lawyers, you know, getting them business debt and just collecting that big, big, you know, I'm going to use a very cheesy example, you know, suitcase full of money, although big checks and all of that good stuff. You know, I did hear a little bit that it seems like it was detaching your humanity in the sense that you wasn't being as empathetic or listening. Is that part of it?

Yeah, I mean, I think I brought spirituality into my law practice, especially, I mean, I was really young when I was a divorce attorney. And that was, I mean, I started like being a divorce attorney on my own at age, I don't know, 28 or nine. You know, I'd done it for another attorney working under him. But it's really difficult. You know, people are dumping all their stuff on you and projecting. And it's just because it's just one of the most difficult things you can go through. And some people, you know,

pitted their children against each other and then there were children that were abused and neglected because the kids the parents did you know drugs or alcohol to excess and um so when I switched over to the business thing I basically the way I incorporated that quote spirituality is is that you know we were helping businesses collect their debts and I think people deserve to be paid for their services

But I didn't do it the way that a lot of attorneys do it. I treated everyone that I contacted with dignity and respect.

and I was kind and patient to them. If they were obnoxious to me, I might just sue them and attach their assets. But I always, in the beginning, always treated people with dignity and respect unless they proved me wrong. And that was kind of a new way of doing things in business, especially collections, you know, because a lot of people are trained, you have to talk to people a certain way. And so I guess that that is how I brought that kind of

spirituality, which for me means spirit and which means love, into the practice of law. And I'm really glad I did because I think it's needed because I wasn't, of course, taught that in law school. So, yeah, I did apply that to my legal career before I decided I just wanted to be a coach and a mentor.

Oh, wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. Now let's get into the good stuff. Work balance life. What the heck does that mean? There's been buzzwords thrown around. All this social media, even traditional media to some extent, they throw these buzzwords, but they don't always give a clear definition. What does work balance life mean to you?

Well, I add the word harmony in there. Work-life balance and harmony. And I agree with you completely. It's been a really overused term. And people give it all kinds of meaning and do all kinds of things with it.

I work with it, like, from the inside out. So, like, there's all these life hacks and mom hacks and work hacks. And they're awesome. They tell you how to simplify your life. They tell you how to save time. You know, a simple thing is, you know, ordering your groceries online and having them delivered. There's all kinds of things like that. And they're excellent to help you, you know, create those spaces of having more time. But the bottom line I feel from working with people is that...

it doesn't change how you feel on the inside. If you feel anxious, stressed, overwhelmed, like you've got the weight of the world on your shoulders, having something there that's going to save a little bit of time here and there is helpful, but it's not going to resolve the underlying issue and problem for you. So the way I work with work-life balance and harmony is I help people create it from the inside out. So when we're more

when we're more confident, when we're more peaceful, when we're more, instead of being all contracted and fearful, we're more open and loving with clear, strong, and appropriate boundaries, it's a lot easier to handle whatever life presents. Because just because we're practicing work-life balance and it's a practice, it's not a perfect. We always need to be flexible and adaptable because our lives are always changing and things are always moving around, especially if you have kids that are growing up.

It's really important to take a look at ourselves individually and maybe have an attorney or not an attorney for me, but a coach or a mentor kind of guides you along the way to feel into where to from here. How do I want to move my life around a little bit so I feel different on the inside and I can handle more of this stuff on the outside? What doesn't really help? What doesn't really work that I need to cut out? What would

What would be some stuff I needed to add in? You know, how do I really, if there was no, if there are no limits, how would I ideally like to experience my life? Because it's really helpful when we're working with work-life balance. You're not just focusing on everything that's bringing you down. You actually are like aligning and moving towards the person you're choosing to become and how you're choosing to feel inside about your life and the people that are in your life and what's going on for you.

So I guess that's a short version of how I see and work with work-life balance and harmony. Oh, that's great. Listeners, I don't want to hear, I'm going to sound very harsh here for a second. I don't want to hear your ADHD convenient excuses. If you choose to pay attention, you will pay attention. Even people that's diagnosed with the thing, okay? I personally know family members that are like, oh, I've got ADHD. Yeah, it could be true to some extent. But if you're really interested, you'll be paying attention.

Even with that condition. Okay. So, you know, if you're not interested, just say you're not interested. Just don't give me that sorry excuse. All right. Look, this is important here because I can speak confidently for America. We are working more than ever. We're not giving time to family. We're not giving time to, you know, activities that can help us heal. And I'm just going to throw a few examples. Exercise, meditate, me time, whatever. Okay.

And, well, that's the way I see work-balanced life. But it's such a broad, broad term. That's why I want her definition of it. And I think it's a very good one. Because it's not just balance in your regular, natural, secular view of life. There's also a spiritual component. And that's the part that we don't talk enough about. If I have to be one of those that have to keep channeling spirituality, spirituality is as important as life and oxygen. I will do that.

Because I'm most people wasn't taught this. She wasn't taught it. I wasn't told we did something. I found out our own. We have to be like spiritually to enemies are just so curious. Right. And I call us like the most powerful oddballs. So you secondly, he there's you could see the acts of period, but you're bringing yourselves down. OK, I want you to join. But I cannot help you if you're going to be blind and hopeless. I can't. I can't force it into you. But those of you want to listen, who's been tired.

And this could be a good New Year's resolution for you, too. Working down his life. New Year's resolution. OK, this could be a very good one. All right. So if you haven't got one, fill this one out. If your New Year's resolution is bullcrap or is a blank, put this one in there. OK, this could be the answer to your New Year's resolution. OK, that's all I want to say about that. I don't want to talk too much.

All right. So let me ask the more negative question. What are the barriers of work balance like? I'm not really mentioning one about people working too much.

One of the barriers, why can't people achieve work-balanced life in general? Well, I don't think that they can achieve it. They just don't know how to achieve it. Because oftentimes what happens, since we're working from the inside out here, is that maybe I have a client or someone that I'm working with that has a really active inner critic. And they don't know how to turn off that inner critic and turn on the inner coach.

And so one way that I suggest that people do that is oftentimes we have this ability inside of ourselves. Like if someone was talking to us, our friend or someone we care about, and they're talking about all the stuff that all the blockages, the reasons why they can't move forward, all the ways that they criticize themselves, what's stopping them from moving forward in their life, what they really want to create. And we're listening and we're being empathetic.

what would we say to that person? Instead of cutting them down, how could we nurture them, lift them up, support them, champion them? And sometimes even, we know this for ourselves, but also for the people we love, sometimes we need a little bit of that tough love, sort of take your head out of a dark place and let's look at this in a new light. But I feel like all of us really have that ability, especially for the people that we care about in our lives. And so one of the first things that we can really do is, okay,

is turn that around and give it to ourselves. You know, I know how to give that to my friends. I know that if someone came to me and said all the reasons that things were just going down the tube and I was really upset and all the things I tried,

I would champion and support them and nurture them and uplift them in a way to help them to step forward and not cut them down to send them into a deep, dark hole. So we just need to begin to turn around and practice giving that to ourselves. And, you know, practice makes permanent. And just because we try once doesn't mean that we're going to get it. It's like if I was choosing to run on the Boston Marathon. I've never run a marathon. I've run a half marathon a long time ago. I mean, you have to practice running a lot.

And it's not like you can just snap your fingers and all of a sudden the inner critic is gone and the inner coach is there, you know, in charge of the ship. And so we just need to continually work with how we're treating ourselves and how we're talking to ourselves and maybe even have an accountability buddy that's doing the same thing. So we're supporting each other and we can begin to turn that ship around so that the way that we're talking to ourselves is a way that's helping to uplift us and to help us move forward.

The poison balls we want to create for ourselves in our lives. You hear that? Something interesting I picked up. Turn your inner critic to your inner coach. Yeah, coach is tough, but they want you to bring out your best. They try to bring the best out of you. Your critic is, I don't know, you're too stupid to be a mathematician. You're not good with numbers. You're crazy. The coach is like, come on, you can do it. Come on, come on, come on. I want those 20 equations solved. You can do it.

You know, it might be tough, but they're more loving and caring. We bring the best while the critics are just want to shut you down. Yeah. Okay. We got to say no to that, you know? Yeah.

I'm sorry. No, go ahead. No, go ahead. No, I just, and we just have to learn to say no to that because you're right. I love your inner critic. It sounds like the way we talk to ourselves. And it's just like, you know, I know I let you in the driver's seat. You're going in the back seat now. And if something's bothering you, you know, tell me about it. But we need to, you know, a lot of these bits of ourselves are kind of broken and they just sort of need our love and support. So we don't want to push them down necessarily.

Sometimes I view them as kids inside of me that are really dysfunctional, that got hurt or something happened or a teenager. And we do need to love them and care for them. But we made a mistake in allowing them to be in the driver's seat. And so we're taking back the driver's seat. We're buckling them up in the back. We're doing more to take care of them. We're not allowing them to have that big voice to draw us down into that deep, dark hole. We're choosing to begin to climb up the mountain of where we were choosing to go.

No, yeah, not exactly. No, feel free to tell me. You got some new value. This is more for you. I'm just guiding the conversation. Some people may say, oh, I let people interrupt. They only got one or a few episodes. Me, I got all the episodes to talk my stuff. So I'm laid back as I see the abundance of opportunity. You know, nine out of 10 times, I'm not going to talk bad about guests. Most of what I do is indirectly refer it. If you figure out what the guest is, you figure it out.

All right. I'm going to say, well, I would disagree with this person on A, B, C and D. That's it. I'm not going to say this person is stupid or whatever, except for one person that I didn't respect as a guest. He tried to tell me how to talk and I purposely piss him off and I got him wild up. And I was happy because I have that mischievous kid side of me that, oh, you want to do that? Break it off. Break it off. Right. But that's something I'm working on because, you know, it's good for certain situations, not good for a lot of them.

But for the most part, I don't mind guests interrupting me because I want them to bring value. Okay. A lot of them are one-time guests. I would like to have some reoccurring guests because some are, especially this season, last two seasons, phenomenal. Overall, phenomenal guests.

great value and not going to usually talk and me i got better as a host to focus on certain topics that try to just cover everything everything and you know i think the quality is better because i'm this one does this work life balance but you could put the love gratitude because there are solutions there are multiple solutions to the problem

You know, so that that's what I'm going to say about that. And it's a true criticism. I agree with that criticism, but I'm just saying what's the reason why I allow that. OK, so that that's all I want to say about that. Yeah. You want to add anything?

No, I do agree with you that the gratitude stuff is really important. I know you mentioned that you've covered it in a bunch of other podcasts. But I think a lot of people, when it comes to gratitude, they make it more of a head thing and like making a list, but they're not really feeling it. And so I think they're really the key with gratitude. I mean, it just helps to raise you up. You feel better full stop. And so gratitude.

I think you just talk about gratitude enough, especially when it's from the heart. And so when we were practicing gratitude to help lift ourselves up and to have better work-life balance, because of course, life is a lot easier on all fronts if we actually feel grateful. And so we can really start with, you know, there's, it's a lie that we have to wait for something to be grateful for because, you know, like you sort of even mentioned, you know, we have so much to already be grateful for, you

in our life. I got up this morning, I had a really nice bed to sleep in, it's comfy, I got a hot shower, I got food in my fridge, I had a nice meal out with some friends, whatever it is, or I just had a nice little short conversation with somebody. We should exchange a smile with someone. There's all these little things that happen to us every day that if we are awake and aware, they can really touch our hearts and we can feel grateful. We're not just making lists. And when we

actually feel grateful for anything, it can sort of extrapolate out to the rest of our life, including our work-life balance. And we can feel different about all the challenges that we're facing because we have that kind of deep feeling of gratitude in our heart. And it really doesn't matter what it is. We all have something that we can feel grateful for, just not make it a head thing. So I think gratitude is important across the board.

You know what? That's a very good point. Maybe that's just a head thing, even an external thing. Something good has to happen. That's that gap. Yep, that even I used to, oh, I have to wait for something good to happen. Or it's just a head thing. I don't know what I'm grateful for. I got up, but I feel not great. You feel it's a while, but you just got up and you're still alive, right? You can still walk. You can still talk. You can still enjoy things of life.

If you got it hard, I get it. I'm not going to water down your problems. That's not the point here. It's just give you tips how to think life differently. It's just like exercise. It's hard. It's difficult. You're challenging your habits that's been ingrained for years, but you are moldable. You can't change it. Try it.

Just give it a shot if you haven't tried it before. That's all I'm going to say. I wish I could go through the screen and, I don't know, massage your head or something with a brush or something, but I can't do it. I want to go through the screen and just talk to you right there. Hey, you disturb your negative routine or something. I can't do that.

You have to be really willing. And I know I get it. It's the, I used to be a depressed person. I even tried to commit suicide before. Okay. I was there. I was dark. So I am not a stranger to darkness and negativity. I mean, I'm Charlene is not either. I, you know, but it's just how we choose to live life is not that problems are not going to go away. They're not going to go away. That's how you handle it.

that's the key and you attack it head on instead of just i don't put it metaphorically speaking put your head in the sand well in this case to bury your head in cyberspace do a more part of the example all right so that's what i'm going to say i really hope you're really getting this listen because i'm being serious i know me like to be troll a little bit of a smart alec i know i might say the more colorful version of a smart alec okay

I'm on professional mode today. So I'm behaving. I'm behaving because I match with the guests here. That's what I do. You're vulgar. I'm vulgar. Guest professional. I'm professional. OK, I'm tempted to say it, but you get why you you understand this is you're the smart people. You're smart. You're going to get it. If you don't get it now, you'll get it in the future. Go right ahead.

And I was on a podcast today with three other women. And it was really interesting, you know, all of us, you know, professional, blah, blah, blah. And one of the younger ones, she has an autoimmune disease and she's been very successful in her business. And she's just choosing to back off a little bit because she really wants to have a kid, you know, and she's getting to that place where you have to either have one or not. And I was just really impressed by her because, you know, she's having all these, you know,

autoimmune is not an easy thing to have an autoimmune disease. But she still, you know, is running her business. She's still putting time into her marriage. She's still, she's choosing to maybe back off a little bit from, you know, as hard as she's been working so that her body can be healed and calm enough so that she can conceive. And so I guess the reason I'm sharing this is that

I mean, she really impressed me. It wasn't like she was trying to be anything. It's like even if we have things that on the physical level or the emotional level or the mental level are difficult, it doesn't mean that we can't still find something to be grateful for. And like you said, Elias, we're trying to say that it's not hard for you, but it doesn't block that gratitude of the universe to come and touch your heart.

That's exactly right. That's an excellent example of resilience. She could have just felt sorry for herself. Oh, I can't do this. I can't do that. But no, she's running business. You maintain marriage. I mean,

She's very strong in my book, stronger than a normal person as far as I'm concerned. She could have been chosen to feel ungrateful. Oh, you know, my life is bad. But die one day from a cold. I mean, that's a bit dramatic. But she could certainly say that if she was in that victim mindset. But she's more of a conqueror, overcomer mindset. And that's actually admirable. So for those of you who don't have kids, and that includes me.

There's no excuse that you could juggle a lot. I mean, me, I say I take care of my elder children. That's what I say to cover it up. Bad, bad answer. Well, deal with it. That's the only answer you're getting from me. It's at least an honest answer. It is somewhat of a creative one. But all is serious to solve. You see, this is someone who's battling with a real challenging, you know,

disease in general and it's a good thing we didn't get specific into it but the point is you can be resilient you can still be grateful for life okay i mean i'm not telling you just to say oh happy dolly dolly everything's gonna be perfect i don't know it's how you handle it count your blessings i forgot what this proverb is but that's the hardest arithmetic

A human can do. Count your blessings. We don't do it. We're quick to point out problems. We're quick to point out how this person looked funny, how this person did the job wrong. We're quick on that. But it comes to counting our blessings. And we got a lot more than we realize. If you meditate deep, you'll be surprised that you come up with 1, 3, 5, 10. Let's go ambitious. 100 examples of gratitude. Okay?

eventually let's just put that for some of you eventually some of you already there you come with a thousand great great all right good for you but there there is reason to be grateful and that's the mindset i've been operating with look in my 20s i already feel like i was 80 i'm at 30s i feel younger because it's having that mindset and do i get grumpy at times yeah i'm gonna be honest there's i don't want to be bothered but you don't make it a lifestyle you don't make it a habit

catch yourself i'm sure you know if you go to her site i'm gonna plug i'll plug it right now she has a lot of solutions you coaching meditation you know she she has stuff for you there and me i got some practical stuff i'm not the expert here but you know just go to her if you want to if you have like very complicated problems i'm that part i'm gonna play the coward card and say i got nothing to do with that okay

I'm just giving you ideas through guests because these guests are wonderful. Well, most of them are and they have value. I mean, obviously she's already saying about being grateful and to challenge her just a little bit. I'm sure she could easily answer this. How can we, if you already mentioned her doing a bunch of things, there's a good tie into that. How can we take care of ourselves despite having such a, forget busy, I got a better word, assiduous schedule, schedule that keeps going at it.

constantly has to go one two three you jump before you could even walk and crawl i gotta think i mean how can we take care of those i think that's another big challenge a lot of us have even sometimes myself at times so you're talking about people that just have they're so busy they don't have time to breathe right i mean that's a little dramatic but yeah yeah um

What comes to share is that when I was 38, he was two, and I was pregnant, and I had a really bad miscarriage. I still had my law practice, so I was in the hospital for a week on all sorts of antibiotics, just getting the baby that didn't attach out of my system.

It was a really interesting experience because what I felt on that level when that happened to me is that, you know, well, I was really grateful I already had a child that was healthy, but I just realized, you know, hey, the world goes on without me. You know, I had my practice of law that I really couldn't practice for like a couple of weeks. My mother flew in and she was bringing my son back and forth to the hospital to me. And I said, wow, life goes on without me. So I guess that mindset, that realization,

It was like, wow, I can slow down. You know, I don't have to do all these things. The way how busy my schedule is, is actually a choice. You know, what can I let go of? Where can I give myself some space to breathe? Because if we don't give ourselves space to engage in self-love and self-care, will we really have a timeout? We need timeouts. Kids need timeouts as adults. We need timeouts. You know, even if it's 5 or 10 or 15 minutes to...

go outside and go to Central Park or New York or whatever it is where, you know, or talk to a friend or go to a nice cafe or give them a massage or whatever it is. We need those just as much as kids do. And I guess that really struck me that, yeah, I can be, and I was an attorney at that time, I can be an attorney, you know, I can make a living, you know, I can take care of my son, but it doesn't serve anyone if I have such a schedule

that's so busy that I can't even breathe. And really, you know, if I die tomorrow, the world is going to continue to go on without me. So how do I want to live my life? How do I want to give back to others, but at the same time, still fill up my cup with self-love and self-care so I'm actually enjoying life? And maybe it takes some time to disentangle from all of that, from what we created, and that maybe takes some courage to let some stuff go. But

It really doesn't feel like a kind way to live and put ourselves through. You know, I hear a couple of interesting points. Busyness is a choice. I want to reemphasize that. That is so true. Some of the stuff that we are busy with doesn't even serve our highest purpose. We got to let some of that stuff go. Ryan is talking to a toxic person. Yes, I don't throw people in there.

Or, I don't know, looking at the smartphone, looking at what trends are, if you really need to calm down. Yeah, busyness is a choice. And you know what? That's the mindset. Some people use busyness as an excuse not to get themselves better. I know that's hard for some of you. I know that's really difficult. But you know what? This podcast is not a safe space. I want to say it like it is sometimes. And a lot of our problems...

A lot of them. I'll say the most of it. We're the cause of it. Okay. Good day, bad day. That's on you. I know that's hard, but it's true. It says, oh, I hate New York because of this. And trust me, I had that mindset. Oh, it's very expensive. You can make New York work for you if you're creative and determined. Trust me, New York City is expensive, factually speaking. But if you know what you're doing, if you're creative, you know, if you know, if you're resourceful, you can make it work.

Another thing I liked, why is it blanking out on me? You said about, you said that busyness is a choice. I like that. I think a lot of people need to get that. Listeners will be really getting this. Busyness is a choice. Yeah. And some things you're doing is just not helping you. You're used to it. You're used to doing it because it's normal. It's habitual, but.

I know change is hard. Yeah, change is hard for me too. But some of them are beneficial. I say some because some are not beneficial. At the time, they were beneficial, but some of those short-term changes are good for you. Okay? Maybe, you know, all I'm going to say is like meditate because we engage ourselves towards too much stimulation, too much activity, and not enough meditation.

Moosa, Wyatt, slow down, recharge. It's just not enough of that. No, there isn't enough of that. And we definitely need to do more of that for sure. We need to do that. I cannot emphasize that enough. And I'm applying some of that to myself. That's why even though I have a lot of stuff going on, but I could handle it.

Because I filter out what's junk. That's just filling up time for nothing. And you need to find out what that is. Pay attention to energy and vibrations. It feels draining, very draining. It's most likely not good for you. That's all I can add to that. I don't want to get too spiritual and all that or take Arlene's stuff because she has a very valuable thing to say. I'm going to quote that. Busyness is a choice. I wanted to answer this.

Sure. Sometimes it's hard for us to drop the business because then we're with ourselves and all the feelings that we haven't felt that felt hard come up. And I just want to tell your readership that, I mean, I work with this a lot. I'm happy to help you if you're interested, but feeling is healing. And so when we actually feel our feelings, let them move through us and then replace them maybe with higher vibrational stuff. I'm recently just working with like peace, you know, like that.

That feeling of just universal peace. It just has this really calm and centering space. And so lots of times people don't want to slow down because then they have to be with themselves. And maybe a beginning way to be with yourself is uplifting, is sometimes I like to just listen to music that just lifts my heart or I can meditate to or I can dance around the room with. But it's not that same kind of business thing. So that if it's too...

confronting just to not do anything. You know, we can do something else. We can take a walk in Central Park if you're in New York, a nice little walk, enjoying the nature around you. You know, we can sip tea at a cafe and just allow ourselves to be

We don't have to give ourselves that completely quiet time that it just feels too confronting because then all the things that we haven't wanted to feel come up at once. And we don't want to overburden ourselves with that or get ourselves into a situation that we can't handle. So sometimes what I do or what I recommend is that, you know, there's some music you listen to and it just brings tears to your eyes when you want to dance. It just is healing. So there are other ways to...

Have that space that's not the busyness without it being quite as confrontational for you. And so that's available as well. You know, that's a good point. Work at your level. Don't go too extreme. That's a very good point. Don't go too silent. Little by little. Do 30 seconds, 45 seconds, a minute. I'll say incremental change is more sustainable.

That's why I've said multiple times this podcast and I stick into that. So you're indirectly saying that don't go from super hyper noise to quiet. Yeah. And I've done that before. The brain is going to go crazy. So what the heck is going on? I'm going to make a bunch of noise. I'm going to rattle you to do something. Yeah. You know, the brain, the brain is complicated. The brain is interesting. The brain is even funny sometimes. Yeah.

You know, the brain is going to go by what it's used to because it's based on lifestyles and all that, what we program it, right? Based on stuff we absorb. If it's used to going fast, it's going to go crazy. Why are you being quiet? Why are you doing this to me? Why are you torturing me? What is this change? The brain will challenge you. The brain is very interesting. It will challenge you, especially trying to do drastic change right on the spot. Like, you'd be a little slick. What I mean by slick is probably incorporate little by little

The brain will eventually fall for it. A brain is not foolproof, but it's not stupid against drastic change. That for sure. It will go berserk for lack of a better word. It will go berserk. So I actually agree with that. I'm happy that you brought that point up. If I mean, and then really for certain people, drastic changes, uh,

Might be your medicine. You know, we all unique individuals. I got to keep that in mind. I say everyone's spiritual journey is unique. But if a few of you try drastic change, give it a shot. It might work for you. Go right ahead. I could.

Yeah, go right ahead. Yeah, it's just what I like to share with people is that you want to bring in kindness, patience, and tolerance. To me, it feels like this triangle kind of trinity, kindness, patience, and tolerance. So we want to be kind, patient, and tolerant with ourselves as we're bringing change into our lives. You know, it feels too hectic, too out of balance, too busy. You know, there's too much overwhelm. It can be as simple as in the moment, well,

You know, how can I just actually be kind to myself now? Maybe we're just exhausted and we're just going to lie down for a 15 minute nap. You know, maybe we're just going to hang out with a friend who is like laid back and you don't have to talk. You don't have to chatter. You can just sort of like...

enjoy just being in each other's presence. There's all sorts of things that we can do to bring that kindness to ourselves in our lives. And so when, and just be patient with ourselves, you know, if we're going to change, if we're going to give ourselves more space and take away some of that busyness, this clouding, this cluttering things up and making us feel overwhelmed, you know, we need to be patient with ourselves. We make one small step, we acknowledge it, we celebrate it,

we do another small step. We acknowledge, we celebrate it and then it doesn't feel like it's too big and I can't do it. And, you know, it all sort of blends in together and when we're taking steps of change in that way, it doesn't feel like I can't do it. So if I can take that one small step, you know, I can sit and breathe for a minute.

So I just wanted to throw that in as well, because oftentimes what happens is people make New Year's resolutions that are going to do something totally different. And they fall flat on their face. And I've done this, too, because we just put unrealistic expectations that it has to be immediate change. Like there's magic fairy dust coming down and we're a totally different person. It took a while to get to here. So it's going to take a while to get over there where you want to go. No, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

I really hope you're getting this because this is valuable. If you have at least half the wisdom you clean, you have you always give this a shot. You know, your life is in chaos, turmoil. And, you know, that's about the world problems. Who says she was going on with Syria? Total chaos.

And look, I don't care what side you're on on the issue. Just know it's just total, total chaos. You only like to end up like that for sure. For our case, it's more metaphorical. And let's keep it metaphorical. Let's not make it literal, really. So...

Look, we already said a bunch of important things. Turn your big goal into many small little steps or tasks, whatever other label you want to call it, just to make it achievable. It's like a mountain. How are you going to get there? If you just look at the mountain and have a plan, oh, of course it's impossible. If you have your gear or you pave steps, I don't know, take a helicopter or something, find a way, you'll get there.

How are you going to get there is just as important. Do it to small steps. I agree with that because I try to do everything at once and you'll snap right back to your old self just like that. Just like that. Snap. You don't want that. That's why I personally say for most people, incremental change is sustainable. It's just

yeah for most people but for certain people i think drastic change is the only way that's like exceptional few i would not recommend trying i recommend you try the incremental approach if that doesn't work then maybe the drastic approach but that's probably like the 0.01 of humanity right there but most of us is most of us normies and i'll call myself a normie even though it's a little offensive to me i like to be an oddball incremental change is sustainable

That's just for the rest of you. Okay? If you're different, very odd, then go ahead. Go be drastic. So anything else you want to add before we do the shameless plug-in and the wrap-up?

I don't know. I think you made some really, really great points. And, you know, when you make those little small steps forward, you know, it's important to know that you don't have to have a five-year plan or a one-year plan. You're just taking a step. You're seeing how it feels. You're acknowledging maybe something or celebrating something, and then you're feeling into and taking another step. And if we do that over a period of time, there's going to be a lot of change. But if you take a couple steps in one direction, it doesn't feel right.

then modify it. You can step in a little bit different direction. It doesn't have to be set in stone. We don't need to put that pressure on ourselves. We can be adaptable and flexible as we're choosing to create more balance and harmony in our lives. All right. So let's get to that shameless plug-in. But before I do that, before I do that, look, I'm about shameless plug-ins. I support it. Look, we all need a little something. I'll be really getting this, listeners.

Don't be super cynical. Don't be super hard. I look, I know you don't trust many things. That's fine. Try to treat this like an experiment. See what works, what doesn't work. Document it. That's what I could tell you. And then you make some adjustments based on your life and getting deeper into that because a podcast can do justice, especially if you have a unique problem or a very complicated one.

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She has a ton of social media. So, no, she's not a boomer that she only has a Yahoo account. Okay. Or AOL. No, she's very up to date. She has a bunch. Okay. She has the Facebook. She has the Twitter. I refuse to call it X. The YouTube, Instagram, the LinkedIn, even the TikTok. Okay. Even TikTok. Okay.

All right. Even though that might be banned soon. Oh, I got a little rain in there. Enjoy while you can, kids. It's funny with TikTok. I used to be against it. I used to be against it, period. But now I'm more sympathetic towards it. And now the ban is going to happen. I should have been. I should have been a supporter. I should support it since day one. Oh, well.

Oh, well, it helps small business. It's a shame they're going to be affected by it. And Facebook and the other companies are going to get a bigger monopoly, which I'm against. I should have thought about it from a business angle. Then I would have been more supportive. But then you live, you learn. What can I say? Don't beat yourself up too much. Just treat it like a lesson. If you made a mistake, treat it like a lesson. That's another thing I want to say. So...

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All right. So that's what I'm going to say about that. This is such a gutsy question. Anything else you want to add before I wrap this up? There is some free stuff that they might enjoy on the website. There's stuff, there's some videos I did a while back about just being calm and centered. There's also some leadership videos. I have a very extensive blog on all kinds of subjects that could help them. So, you know, even if you, you know, if you just want to even go and check that out, it's free. And I hope you enjoy that.

I have free gifts. Come on, risk free. Risk free. Don't give a hard time with that. Come on, give it a shot. Don't be cheap with your time at least. That's the only thing that's going to cost you just some time. That's it. Well, and if you're low energy, it may cost you some extra energy. But if you're high energy, it's not going to cost you much on that department. Come on. Look, she even got some free gifts for you. Give that one. You got to give it a shot. I wish I could just have my finger go through the screen, command you just to

Try it out. Well, these try to free gifts. Come on, go on, go on. Be nice here. Be nice here. Don't, don't, don't be stingy. Don't be, don't be cheap. I can use the New York slang, but I could throw some of you off. Don't be cheap with your time. Don't come up. Just if you want a better life, give it a try. That's what I'm going to say. So, and now I want to officially wrap this up. So for when, for whenever you've listened to this podcast, you have a blessed day.

Afternoon or night.