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A Disinfectant That’s More Powerful Than Bleach—And Safe for Your Skin

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Rachel Feltman: 我了解到次氯酸是一种高效、安全、廉价的天然消毒剂,其效力超过漂白剂100倍,甚至可以安全地喷入眼睛。然而,它在日常生活中并未广泛应用,这引发了我的好奇。 Jen Schwartz: 次氯酸是人体自身产生的物质,白细胞利用它来对抗感染。它能有效破坏病原体的细胞壁和DNA。市面上也有合成的次氯酸产品,被广泛应用于消毒和护肤领域。我对次氯酸的兴趣始于新冠疫情期间,当时我希望能找到一种更有效的保护医护人员的方法。次氯酸作为预防性措施的潜力正在研究中,例如用于鼻腔冲洗以预防感染。它不仅在美容领域有应用,也具有潜在的医疗用途,例如预防和治疗感染。 次氯酸的有效性至少是漂白剂活性成分的100倍,并且对人和环境无毒。与酒精等消毒剂相比,它更温和,不会刺激皮肤。然而,次氯酸不稳定,难以商业化生产和保存,这是其难以广泛应用的主要原因。近年来,一些公司正在解决次氯酸的稳定性问题,使其更易于消费者使用。将次氯酸用于空气消毒,例如对人员进行喷雾消毒,效果可能并不理想。市面上许多次氯酸产品可能并未解决其稳定性问题,消费者应谨慎选择。消费者在选择次氯酸产品时,应选择成分纯净的产品,避免添加剂影响其稳定性和功效。家用次氯酸生成设备是一种可行的选择。次氯酸比漂白剂更安全,应用范围更广。使用次氯酸消毒时,应让其在表面停留一段时间才能达到最佳效果。消毒剂的使用方法对消毒效果至关重要。 Jen Schwartz: 我对次氯酸的了解始于新冠疫情期间,当时我父亲作为耳鼻喉科医生,面临着感染的风险。我开始研究次氯酸,因为它是一种人体自身产生的消毒剂,白细胞利用它来对抗感染。它能有效破坏病原体的细胞壁和DNA。市面上也有合成的次氯酸产品,被广泛应用于消毒和护肤领域。次氯酸的有效性至少是漂白剂活性成分的100倍,并且对人和环境无毒。与酒精等消毒剂相比,它更温和,不会刺激皮肤。然而,次氯酸不稳定,难以商业化生产和保存,这是其难以广泛应用的主要原因。近年来,一些公司正在解决次氯酸的稳定性问题,使其更易于消费者使用。在疫情期间,次氯酸被尝试用于空气消毒,但效果并不理想。市面上许多次氯酸产品可能并未解决其稳定性问题,消费者应谨慎选择,选择成分纯净的产品,避免添加剂。家用次氯酸生成设备也是一种选择。次氯酸比漂白剂更安全,应用范围更广,但使用时应注意让其在表面停留一段时间才能达到最佳效果。

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Hypochlorous acid is a natural disinfectant 100 times more effective than bleach, yet safe for skin and the environment. It's produced by our white blood cells and synthetically created for use in various applications, from cleaning to skincare. Its effectiveness and safety make it a promising alternative to harsh disinfectants.
  • Hypochlorous acid is 100 times more effective than bleach.
  • It's safe for skin and the environment.
  • It's used in skincare and cleaning products.
  • It's being researched for medical applications.

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With everything from bird flu to neurovirus making headlines these days, it can feel like the world is just packed with dangerous pathogens we need protection from. What if we could get a hand from an all-natural disinfectant that was more than 100 times more effective than bleach, but so gentle and safe that you could spray it into your eyes?

It might sound like the sort of quackery you'd get sold in a shady Facebook group, but such a compound really does exist. It's called hypochlorous acid. And in addition to all of those awesome qualities I just listed, it's also cheap. Plus, you can make it at home. So why don't we use it for, like, everything?

Here to explain is Jen Schwartz, a senior features editor for Scientific American. Jen, thanks so much for coming on to chat today. Thanks for having me. So you wrote a piece about hypochloric acid, which I feel like I've been seeing everywhere lately. So let's start with the obvious. What is this compound?

So it's so fascinating to me that you say you've been seeing it everywhere because when I had this idea, which really came a few years ago, I thought that no one knew about this. But I became aware of it in answering what this thing is. It's a disinfectant and it is something that is made in our bodies. It is part of how our white blood cells fight infection. They go to like a wound that you have and they release bacteria.

including hypochlorous acid that just goes and like dismantles bad things that you don't want, pathogens and rips the, you know, cell walls apart and dismantles the DNA. So it's an extremely effective disinfectant.

Made in the body. And then, of course, there is a synthetic version that we can make pretty easily. And that is what we're seeing in all of these products that are used as sanitizers and disinfectants. And now it's really become more pervasive in like the skincare and beauty industry for use on your skin. So what first got you interested in looking into this? I learned about hypochlorous acid during the early days of COVID.

When my dad, who at that point was still working as an ENT doctor, you know, I was like, my God, dad, you're like hovering six inches like over people's noses and throats during like acute COVID. And we were talking like, what is something more that, you know, people like him in health care could use as a tool to protect themselves? In addition, of course, to like wearing masks and washing your hands, right?

And so that's how I learned about this in the first place. And so I was really curious about

You know, how is this being studied as a potential nasal irrigation or nasal spray? Is it safe enough to put on the mucosa? And let's say, like, you are exposed in your day job, right, if you work in healthcare and there's an emerging, like, pandemic. Is this something that you could spray up your nose once or twice a day? And if you do have viral particles hanging out there, would it kill them on the spot and prevent them from, like, entering your lungs and becoming a full-blown infection? Yeah.

And so that was like the initial sort of question, speculation. Are we going to potentially see this become useful in this way as like a preventative approach?

And again, it would just be one more tool that people would have to like reduce severity of infection. And it looks like, you know, that has definitely been researched over the past several years. There's not like consensus on it, but I think that's like a really promising potential pathway that people are looking into. And that's something pretty different from how most people are encountering hypochlorous acid right now, which is like a toner in the beauty aisle. So I think it's cool to realize that this thing that you're

spraying on your face and using to like cut down bacteria on your face could also have really cool medical implications. Yeah. And what specifically about this disinfectant makes it really exciting for all of these different applications?

I think what's so exciting about it is that it is so effective, right? You know, it's at least 100 times more effective at killing really hard to kill pathogens and microbes and bacteria and fungi. It's 100 times more effective than the active ingredient in bleach. Wow. And so it's extremely good at what it does.

And yet it's incredibly safe. It is non-toxic to people and animals. It is not bad for the environment. I mean, you can spray this stuff into your eyes. It's used as a cleaner for like your eyelids in medical context.

What's so cool about it is that it works so well, and yet even unlike something like alcohol, which we put on our hands all the time to sanitize them, alcohol dries out your skin. It can be very irritating and lead to dermatitis and other things. And hypochlorous acid is like really benign in that way. And I think that's what I got so excited about. Yeah. So if—

This is so great and so, you know, gentle. Why isn't it what we use to clean everything? You know, and that's what I really set out to try to figure out. The most straightforward answer is that it has very little stability. It is not shelf-stable. So the way that it's made, you're going through a process of taking essentially salt and water and then turning it into hypochlorous acid through the process of electrolysis.

And so it's essentially when you get to that place, it is very sensitive to light, to air, to changes in pH, and that can sort of go back into becoming just saltwater again. So it becomes completely useless in that case. Or in other ways, it might develop more, a higher percentage of it, a higher concentration would become something like chlorine gas, which of course is dangerous. So the reason it's not sort of evergreen

everywhere is that it's really hard to like manufacture and bottle this thing and keep it exactly what it is and have the conditions be exactly right. And there's been some changes over the past several years where more companies are sort of figuring out that puzzle and making it more available to consumers as opposed to just something that is used in like commercial and industrial cleaning contexts where there's more control over how that product is managed.

Yeah. Well, and one of the things you mentioned in your piece is that especially during the peak pandemic era, there were some countries and, you know, settings and institutions where this is almost being used to sort of fumigate people on their way in and out of shared spaces. What do we know about how effective it actually is in that context?

So I think in that context, it was pretty much seen like maybe it's not that effective to disinfect a person in that way. And I think, you know, what's really interesting is this is a great product or it's a great molecule to be used on surfaces and things like that.

But, you know, spraying it in the air in that way, is that really that effective? Not really, especially when we're dealing with infectious, like, respiratory illnesses where you're looking at things that are airborne or through droplets. And I think in those cases, the sort of, you know, fogging it everywhere has been proved, like, not that effective. And what you're really trying to do when you fog a room is get, like, even distribution on all types of surfaces in the room. So I don't think there was much, like...

I think during the pandemic, we were sort of throwing spaghetti at the wall and trying all sorts of things. But I don't know that we'll see that going forward. Yeah, makes sense. So you mentioned that different companies are finding solutions for the instability of this compound. But you also mentioned in your piece that there are a lot of brands marketing hypochlorous acid. Like I said, I feel like I've seen it everywhere that maybe aren't

actually solving the stability problem and are maybe ultimately selling people saltwater. Could you talk a little bit more about what consumers should be on the lookout for? I think what's so fascinating is that this has been used as, you know, something in like wound care and medical contexts for a long time.

And now you're seeing that product enter a market that is regulated in a completely different way and in a far less rigorous way. We all know that there's like not that much oversight when it comes to what people can call things in the beauty industry and how they're marketed.

So I think what's fascinating is there are like legitimate cases where we want to be looking at what is this thing really good for? And I think there are a lot of really promising potential uses for it. I just think right now when something goes the route of like, you know, getting made into a product that anyone can really make and bottle and

The thing that I get a little that would make me skeptical are some of the products that have other additives. So if you're putting hypochlorous acid in a bottle and then you're adding like essential oils or all sorts of other things, that's going to really affect the formulation and its stability. So I think like if you want to use this as a...

Toner or facial spray, you know, for treating acne or eczema or something to put in your gym bag to spray your face like after the gym. Just look for something that is like a pure formulation. You don't need all these other additives and they can actually potentially harm the product.

So I think that's like the main thing that I would look out for. And you don't need unnecessary things like it doesn't need to be made out of pink Himalayan sea salt. Like that's just something that's, you know, a distraction from the actual use of the product. And there are also products that allow people to make this on their own, right? Right. You know, I didn't try any of those products for myself. Right.

But I think it's really interesting. I mean, there's versions of this, right? You take something that's done in an industrial context and you shrink it down to like a countertop sized device. And, you know, there's no reason really why this shouldn't work. And I think if you're someone who takes like the cleaning of your house really seriously or you've just had something like norovirus sweep through your house, could this be a really interesting application?

I think so. And I think what's great about it is that, you know, you can't put Clorox bleach everywhere on all surfaces. With hypochlorous acid, there's just a lot more applications, not just in surfaces where it's not going to harm it and where it's going to be effective, but also, of course, like on your skin. So if you have pets and kids, it's not the same concern as spraying bleach.

bleach everywhere. Have you been using hypochlorous acid yourself? I have been. I have it with me today. One of the things that I love using it for is I spray it on my phone case. So I do that a lot. I also like when I get back from the grocery store,

I spray it on like my bananas and just leave them on the counter. Or if I get avocados, I do often spray my face and my hands. The number one thing that this story sort of informed me about when I was reporting is like, as with all disinfectants, you have to let them sit for a little bit. And hypochlorous acid on hard, non-porous surfaces still requires like 30 to 60 seconds to be like really, really effective at killing everything.

But if you think about the way that we clean surfaces in our lives or even spray our hands, are you letting something sit on your hands for 60 seconds? Are they saturated? I used to clean my phone with, you know, whatever I could find.

But I would spray it on and then sort of immediately wipe it off. And so what I've learned is that however effective your disinfectant is, you also have to be using it in the right way. So I've gotten a lot better at like spraying my hands, really soaking them and then letting them sit for a minute. And then I'll like wipe off the rest. And I feel like that wiping action is also really good at physically removing things that might be there. Yeah. Yeah.

Thanks so much for coming in to chat about this. It's rare that I see something like lauded as like a miracle molecule. And then I'm like, oh, it turns out it is actually probably good for stuff. I will probably get this to spray on my face. So thank you. Thank you. That's all for today's episode. We'll be back on Friday to interview a member of the Scientific American team who's been covering science and technology since before the days of the Internet as we know it.

Science Quickly is produced by me, Rachel Feltman, along with Fondam Wongi, Kelso Harper, Naima Marci, and Jeff Dalvisio. This episode was edited by Alex Sagiara. Shana Poses and Aaron Shattuck fact-check our show. Our theme music was composed by Dominic Smith. Subscribe to Scientific American for more up-to-date and in-depth science news. For Scientific American, this is Rachel Feltman. See you next time. ♪