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Short Stuff: Bourgeoisie

2025/1/15
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Josh: 我认为"bourgeois"这个词在美国和法国的含义大相径庭。在美国,它通常被用作一种轻蔑的称呼,带有贬低的意思,暗示着平庸、乏味的生活方式。然而,在法国,这个词则更接近于一种中性的描述,用来指那些有教养、有礼貌、受过良好教育的人。这种差异源于该词在不同历史时期和文化背景下的演变。 在现代美国语境中,当有人称另一个人为"bougie"时,通常是在表达一种负面评价,认为对方的生活方式单调、缺乏个性,甚至有些令人厌烦。这种用法与该词最初的含义已经相去甚远。 然而,在法国,"bourgeois"一词仍然保留着其较为正面的含义,它可以用来指代不同社会阶层的人,例如医生、律师、店主、艺术家等等,而这些人的共同点是他们都拥有良好的教养和礼仪。 总而言之,"bourgeois"一词的含义在不同国家和文化中存在着显著差异,理解这种差异对于准确把握其含义至关重要。 Chuck: "Bourgeois"和"bourgeoisie"这两个词语密切相关,但含义略有不同。"Bourgeois"既可以作形容词,也可以作名词,指单个的资产阶级人士或其行为方式。而"bourgeoisie"则专指所有属于资产阶级的人,仅作名词使用。 在马克思主义理论中,"bourgeoisie"指的是拥有资本并剥削无产阶级的人,是社会矛盾的焦点。马克思和恩格斯在《共产党宣言》中使用了这个词,但其最初含义并非贬义,而仅仅是用来描述一个社会阶层。 然而,随着时间的推移,"bourgeois"一词的含义逐渐发生了变化。在美国,它常常被用来形容那些炫耀财富、行为俗气的暴发户,这与格莱迪斯·奈特和皮普斯乐队的歌曲《Bougie Bougie》中所表达的含义相符。 另一方面,在现代法国,"bourgeois"一词仍然保留着其较为正面的含义,它常常被用来形容那些有教养、有礼貌、受过良好教育的人。巴黎的资产阶级甚至可以细分为三个等级:贵族或接近贵族的人;富人或精英;以及小资产阶级,包括店主、艺术家和商人。 总而言之,"bourgeois"一词的含义在不同历史时期、不同文化语境下发生了显著变化,理解其演变过程对于准确把握其含义至关重要。

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The term "bourgeois" has different meanings depending on the context and location. In America, it's often used as a put-down, implying a basic or middle-class lifestyle. However, its original meaning and usage in other cultures differ significantly.
  • American usage of "bourgeois" often implies a basic middle-class lifestyle.
  • The term's meaning varies across cultures and time periods.

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Hello and welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh and there's Chuck and Jerry sitting in for Dave. So it's short stuff, you basic person. You call me bougie? Yeah. No, I'm not. I wouldn't do that. I think it's kind of a mean thing to say to somebody, at least in America. In France, they're like, yes, you're right. Thank you. In America, it's a bit of a put down. That's right. And that's what we're talking about today. We're talking about a word that's

Bourgeois, B-O-U-R-G-E-O-I-S. Yeah. Not to be confused with bourgeoisie, correct? Well, yeah, they're very closely related. Bourgeois can mean a it can be an adjective and a noun. Right. If it's a noun, you're talking about one person.

who is bourgeois. So that's their behavior or it's the one person. Bourgeoisie is all of the people who are bourgeois. It's a noun only. Okay, everybody, there's going to be a quiz at the end of this episode.

But if you talk to Americans, a lot of Americans probably hear bourgeois and they think, oh, fancy, fancy, fancy. Right. And that is not the case because bourgeois refers to, like you called me, basics or sort of a middle class basic individual. Yes. Or group of individuals. Right. But there's a long road between the original version of bourgeois that we'll talk about and then the...

The American version that it has now and right smack dab in the middle are the commies.

Specifically, Karl Marx. Yeah. I don't understand why Joseph Engels never gets his due because he and Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto. But it's always just Karl Marx, Karl Marx, you know, must drive Engels crazy. But in 1848, they published the Communist Manifesto. And in that, they adopted the word that had formerly been middle class people. It wasn't really much of a put down. It wasn't it was just a useful word for a while.

He equated them with the people who owned the capital that the labor was produced on and decided that they were exploiting the proletariat, the working class. Right.

That's right. And he was writing in German. So, of course, he did not say bourgeois. He said, Birgerliche Gesellschaft. Oh, beautiful. You make German sound beautiful, Chuck. Thank you. Danke. In America, they may translate that as civil society or maybe a bourgeois society. But either way you slice it, what he's saying is,

The bourgeoisie are are the bad people. They're the one they're exploitive. They're not actually doing anything. They just own the stuff that the people who are actually doing something are using to do the thing that they're doing. But really, the bourgeoisie are the ones who are making the money off the working class in their labor. Right. So it was not it was not at this at this time. It was not viewed as a very popular thing.

It wasn't praise. How about that? No one ever used it for praise by this time. And when it finally crossed the Atlantic to America around the early 20th century, the Wobblies, the industrial workers of the world, who were, I believe,

I think we talked about them before and they were split between communists and anarchists. And there was a big struggle, I think between the two, but regardless of whether you're a communist or an anarchist at the beginning of the 20th century, you were not a fan of the bourgeoisie. And, um, yeah. So the wobblies did not like the bourgeoisie either. And they in fact came up with a new slang term for them. That's right. The slang word was bushwa, uh,

B-U-S-H-W-A. And what's weird, I think that was in a quote from a 1970 article. What's weird, though, is that that word, bushwa, eventually was sort of morphed into a slang for BS. Like somebody's full of hot air or BS. Someone, you know, is full of bushwa. Right. We have to thank our friends at the Grammophobia blog for digging that stuff up. That's right.

And then so it also kind of morphed in a new way, kind of the way that that we view it today. But but a little. Yeah, I guess it was pretty much the way we view it today. It first pops up in black culture where it kind of morphed thanks to Gladys Knight and the Pips. They had a disco hit in 1980 called Bougie Bougie. And can we hear a snippet?

No, we can't, unfortunately. But if you want to hear any of the song Bougie Bougie, you can find it on YouTube or just about anywhere where you can listen to it free and clear. But it's a great song and I strongly recommend people go listen to it.

Yeah, and that would be B-O-U-R-G-I-E comma B-O-U-R-G-I-E. Right. And the whole point of the song is it's about somebody who comes from the working class or a poorer background, but started to make money and now they're flaunting it. They have like a new car with a sunroof. They have new clothes. And it was a commentary on them, but also kind of like a snide one, too. Like these people are being tacky in a way and forgetting things.

who they are, where they come from, I guess. Yeah, it is kind of like that new money, old money thing, which is just so bleh, you know? Yeah. I say we take a break, Chuck. Yes, I was about to say that. Nice work.

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So if you want to go back to the original bougie, if you want to go back to France, the original meaning is from a French word, B-O-U-R-G, which I guess would that be bourg? Yeah, kind of like burg on the end of a town. Okay. And that's like a small town or a small market. In the Middle Ages, the people that lived there sort of adopted that name for themselves. So it kind of – this word is just morphing and morphing all over the place over the years. Mm-hmm.

They were one step up from like a farming peasant. So they were sort of the middle class of the time. Right. Which is just the way that it was. Again, I said it was like a useful word. It wasn't like a put down. It wasn't like a compliment. It was like you are bourgeois. That's that. Descriptor. Right. Very nice. And it wasn't until the 17th century, specifically, I think, in 1670, when Moliere, the French playwright, came up with a musical comedy called

He was hilarious. Called Le Bourgeois Gentleman or The Bourgeois Gentleman. And this is when it takes bourgeois and makes fun of it.

It's a Moliere was punching down to the middle class and essentially doing the exact same thing that Gladys Knight and the Pips are doing with Bougie Bougie. They he was basically making fun of some middle class social climber who was trying to make a name for himself in French society.

That's right. And that would be the definition that is most sort of thought of today in the 21st century when someone says bougie. Another, you know, modern musical example is Atlanta's own from the ATL, Migos. You ever listen to Migos? Oh, yeah.

It's good stuff. They have a song called Bad and Bougie, in this case spelled B-O-U-J-E, and it sort of leans back on that, what the Pips were talking about, sort of a new fancy lifestyle. Yes, but two things were different. One...

The Migos made their money cooking crack in a crock pot, which is a proprietary eponym. And usually there's a Uzi in the same room, too. And two, they were proud of being bougie and all the new money and tacky like ways that they threw it around. Like that was the thing. It wasn't it wasn't a put down. They were like, yeah, I'm bougie. You should have seen the money I had before. Now look what I got. Yeah, yeah, totally. It's a great song. Yeah.

Okay, so that's where we are today. Bougie, it's essentially a put down depending on whether you've claimed it yourself. If most of the time, if you're calling someone bougie in America, you're basically saying, like you said at the outset, they're basic, their lifestyle and their life is just kind of boring and pedestrian in the middle of the road. And what's the point kind of thing? Usually it's from somebody who, well, they're just being mean essentially, right? Yeah.

But in France, that's not the case. Yeah. In modern France, it does not mean pedestrian. It's a little more like good, well-mannered, well-educated people.

There's like three levels supposedly of a Parisian bourgeois. The nobility or people that are kind of close to nobility, the rich or the creme de la creme. You have the bourgeois de province, doctors, attorneys, middle class types. And then the petite bourgeois who are shopkeepers, artists, businessmen.

you know, kind of self-starting, self-employed people. Yeah. And even though there seems to be a bit of a hierarchy to it, they all are, they're behaving the same way. I think it just depends on how much money you have is what it's really kind of carved out between. But the bourgeois in France is exactly what Americans who don't know what bourgeois means think of. They're correct, but they're just thinking specifically of the French bourgeois. Yeah. Yeah.

And yeah, I guess that's about it for being bougie and bourgeois and bourgeoisie and Karl Marx and Joseph Engels and Migos and Gladys Knight and the whole lot of it, Chuck. Well, we'll follow up in 10 years and see if the definition's changed again. Great idea. In the meantime, Short Stuff is out. Stuff You Should Know is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.