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For Republicans, the End of Abortion Rights Was a Dangerous Victory

2024/8/20
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David Remnick：特朗普成功推翻罗诉韦德案，但在党内引发政治代价。共和党内部对堕胎议题存在分歧，甚至有人建议停止讨论，以免壮大民主党。共和党全国大会取消了长期支持全国性堕胎禁令的纲领条款，这与最高法院的《多布斯案》裁决形成对比。特朗普试图淡化其在堕胎问题上的强硬立场，声称将堕胎权交给各州是“每个人都想要的”。 Susan Glasser：特朗普在堕胎问题上的立场并非出于原则，而是出于政治和选票考虑。他既想为推翻罗诉韦德案邀功，又不想为此付出政治代价。共和党全国大会暗中取消了长期以来支持全国性堕胎禁令的纲领条款。罗森代尔议员代表共和党基层，对党内妥协感到不满，认为共和党应该坚持反堕胎立场。他认为，即使民意调查显示IVF很受欢迎，共和党仍能在IVF问题上获胜，因为共和党过去曾多次采取不受欢迎的立场，并成功地将其转化为法律。罗森代尔还认为，许多国会议员对IVF的伦理问题缺乏了解。他试图争取的是一小部分美国人，但这些人却拥有不成比例的政治权力。 Matt Rosendale：共和党基层对共和党在堕胎问题上的妥协感到不安。他个人始终坚持自己的原则和信仰，但无法控制整个政党的走向。他反对体外受精（IVF），并试图取消联邦政府对军人家属IVF的资助。他同情那些难以自然受孕的家庭，但他认为应该更多地关注不孕不育的原因，例如避孕药、不良饮食和新冠疫苗等。 Kamala Harris：哈里斯在竞选活动中持续关注生殖权利，这给特朗普带来了压力。 Susan Glasser: 共和党内部对堕胎问题的态度存在严重分歧。一部分人为了政治利益而选择淡化堕胎议题，而另一部分人，例如罗森代尔议员，则坚持反堕胎的立场，并试图将这一立场扩展到IVF等领域。这反映出共和党内部在原则和政治策略之间的矛盾。同时，民意调查显示，大多数美国人支持堕胎合法化，这给共和党的反堕胎立场带来了挑战。

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The Republican Party removed a longstanding plank supporting a national abortion ban at a time when such a ban became legally possible, reflecting internal tension. Susan Glasser discusses this with David Remnick, highlighting interviews with Representative Matt Rosendale and the broader implications for the party.

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At the Republican National Convention in July, a platform plank in place for decades that called for a national abortion ban was removed—right at the moment that such a ban has actually become legally possible, after the Supreme Court’s Dobbs decision. Donald Trump has tried to distance himself from hard-line pro-life positions, saying that abortion rights sitting with the states “is something that everybody wanted.” The New Yorker’s Washington correspondent Susan B. Glasser explores the tension within the Republican Party and speaks with David Remnick about her reporting, including an interview with Representative Matt Rosendale, of Montana. A hard-liner dismissive of pragmatic compromise, Rosendale believes that life begins at conception, and he is challenging his House Republican colleagues to vote their convictions and ban in-vitro fertilization.