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The Other Iran - June 23rd, Hour 2

2025/6/24
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Sean Hannity: 我认为特朗普总统的目标是消除伊朗拥有核武器的可能性，并保护美国在该地区的利益。伊朗的反应是象征性的，旨在挽回面子。尽管如此，由于美国在该地区有基地和人员，我们仍然需要关注。特朗普总统提到政权更迭，并发布“让伊朗再次伟大”的推文，是对伊朗人民的喊话。以色列只针对伊朗的军事目标，而伊朗则针对平民区，这表明他们的心态完全不同。伊朗是恐怖主义的主要赞助国，并帮助策划了10月7日的袭击。如果以色列决定摧毁伊朗的炼油厂、电力网络或领导层，我不会责怪他们，因为伊朗已经多次袭击以色列。特朗普的原则是伊朗不能拥有核武器，他说到做到。如果以色列摧毁伊朗的各个方面，导致政权更迭，我不会感到惊讶，但这从来不是特朗普总统的目标。特朗普主义不是一种孤立主义的原则，而是一种植根于基本常识的原则。 Ali Safavi: 我认为清算这些罪恶的毛拉的日子即将到来。这个政权已经残害了伊朗人民，处决了成千上万的异议人士。我们正处于改变伊朗的边缘，但这种改变来自伊朗人民和有组织的抵抗力量。国际社会应该支持伊朗人民和反对派运动，以推翻该政权。必须斩断蛇头，也就是阿里·哈梅内伊，但这将由伊朗人民和有组织的抵抗运动来完成。我们需要美国和欧洲的政治和道义支持，但不需要任何军事干预或资金援助。一旦压迫的墙倒塌，伊朗人民最终会走上街头。伊朗人民圣战组织（MEK）的抵抗力量正在努力推倒压迫的墙。伊朗人民已经准备好迎接变革，自2017年以来发生了五次重大起义。我不认为这个政权能够幸存下来，我认为我们已经翻开了新的一页。只要国际社会不向该政权提供任何生命线，伊朗人民就有能力推翻它。我不认为政权更迭后情况会变得更糟，伊朗不会变成另一个利比亚。伊朗是一个拥有数千年文明、受过良好教育的人民和有组织的反对派的国家，因此反对派有计划在政权更迭后立即介入并带领伊朗走向民主。 Maria: 我完全支持特朗普总统和他所做的一切，人们必须意识到每个人都尊重他，他应该得到尊重。特朗普总统不得不做他需要做的事情。因为唐纳德·J·特朗普和他的勇气，以及他有足够的决心去认识到像伊朗这样的恐怖国家所带来的生存威胁，并密切关注他们的行动，所以今天这个世界更加安全了。唐纳德·特朗普会自己做决定，这一点我很清楚。

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This chapter discusses the US military strike on Iranian nuclear facilities. The stated goal was to eliminate Iran's nuclear weapons program and protect American interests in the region. The response from Iran was considered weak, but the potential for further conflict remains.
  • US strike on Iranian nuclear facilities
  • Eliminating Iran's nuclear weapons program
  • Protecting American interests
  • Weak Iranian response
  • Potential for further conflict

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 Ali Safavi is a member of Iran’s Parliament in Exile, National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI), and President of Near East Policy Research (NEPR), a consulting and policy analysis firm in Washington, DC. A sociologist by career, Safavi studied and taught at UCLA, California State University Los Angeles and University of Michigan from 1972 until 1981. An activist during the anti-Shah student movement in the 1970s in the US, Safavi has been involved in Iranian affairs since then and has lectured and written extensively on issues related to Iran, Iraq, terrorism, nuclear proliferation, and the political process in the Middle East. Safavi’s older brother, Hossein, a US-educated aerospace engineer from Northrop University in California, was executed by the current Iranian regime in 1981 for his opposition to their repressive policies. He was 29.

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