The Other Iran - June 23rd, Hour 2
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So much discussion because the president's stated goal was to eliminate Iran can't have nukes. And part two of it was to protect our interests and our assets and our and fellow Americans that are in the region. That part of the plan that would that was that was in place long before any bomber took off from Missouri or anywhere.

Um, and hence you saw earlier today with the symbolic telegraphed, Oh, we're going to fire back, you know, but it's not really, we're not really attacking. We just need to be able to save face. I mean, it's so, it's so ridiculous. It's so stupid, but it is what it is. Um, president Trump actually now has responded to this and rightly so, you know, by calling it a very weak response, uh,

And, you know, no Americans were harmed. Not one of these these missiles fired at our Qatari base ever hit the ground. They were all taken out of the air. You know, Supreme Leader saying Iran will not accept any harassment after the attack on the U.S. base. They told everybody what they were doing. It's very reminiscent of what happened after the killing of Soleimani. They said, yeah, we're going to fire all these missiles, but we're going to miss.

because they don't want the wrath of Donald Trump. It is extraordinarily weak. But it is something you have got to be concerned about because there are Americans in the region. These are American bases. There are lives always, you know, in jeopardy whenever there's any military action. You don't want to see one American hurt in any capacity. And as we've been discussing, you know, they gamed out any possible retaliatory strikes.

not the least of which is hitting our bases or mining the Straits of Hormuz, which they have temporarily closed down. And then, of course, we have always discussed the possibility of the known terrorists that Joe Biden and Kamala and Mayorkas and the complicit media that never reported on the wide open borders and Democrats that lied and said that the borders were closed and secure. But that includes Democrats.

Hundreds of people from Iran and many that were were caught by the Biden administration that then were still released into the into the country. Iran's Fordow facility has suffered massive destruction. It looks like their nuclear program has been wiped out as of now.

Now the question is what the future will hold for the Iranians. Now, there's a couple of things that can happen simultaneously. When the president mentioned regime change, that wasn't the original goal. I took it very differently than the way others took it. And I think that's important. It's important to make a distinction here. And when the president tweeted out, make Iran great again, M-I-G-A-N,

He's basically saying these to the Iranians. Now, remember, every single every single target was the nuclear facilities of the Iranians, which the president very clearly stated and gave them all the time in the world to accept a deal. The Israelis have only been targeting Iran.

military targets the Iranians have been targeting heavily populated civilian areas and it shows just a whole different mindset because it's a terrorist regime and a terrorist regime that has in has has killed untold thousands

tens of thousands of people in the region and that they have been the number one state sponsor of terror and they helped orchestrate the october 7th attacks and that's the cuds forces iranian revolutionary guards forces although their numbers their generals are dwindling and very quickly i mean three more leaders were taken out by the israelis in the last three days

And they, you know, I don't even know what to say about this. It seems like the Iranians are so overwhelmed by what the U.S. military was able to accomplish on Saturday night and the fact that we own their skies. They have no shot at protecting themselves. Doesn't mean there won't be other attacks. We've got to be forever vigilant. But I don't want to see any single American get hurt.

And there's risks always associated with military efforts. But with that said, I would imagine that the Israelis have a far greater interest in dismantling Iran and have every right to dismantle Iran at whatever degree they deem necessary. I mean, they have been firing either directly or through their proxies hundreds of thousands of missiles into Israel. And if the Israelis decide to take out

their refineries and destroy their economy, I don't blame them. If they decide to knock out their power grid so that you have instability in the country that would lead to regime change, I don't blame them. If the Israelis decide to take out the supreme leader and the leadership of the Iranian, you know, the Republic of Iran, I don't blame them either because there's only so many times you can attack Israel before, you

They have a right to defend their country, and their very existence has been threatened here. And it really has come to, it came to this moment because the Iranians were building out two possible plans. One was the enrichment plan, and according to every report, they were at 60% enrichment. And to get from 60% to 90% weapons-grade enrichment was a matter of days, not even a full month. It was just weeks.

And so that would mean they were nuclear power. And now they're getting more and more capability in terms of their missile capability and greater distances involved.

That would be a clear and present danger to every country in the region and eventually the continental United States. It just had to be done. And the timing couldn't have been greater. They were going to go from ballistic missiles of 2,000 pounds, which is very lethal, to 4,000 pounds, which is extraordinarily lethal. And we know what their targets are. And those were civilian targets. And now the question is, what will happen next? You know, it's anybody's guess.

Ali Safavi is with us, and Ali is a member of the Iranian Parliament in Exile and National Council of Resistance of Iran and president of the Near East Policy Research Group, a consulting and policy analysis firm in D.C. Sir, how are you? You've studied this now, and you've taught at UCLA and University of Los Angeles, Michigan,

and have been an activist during the anti-Shah student movement. What do you make of these events, and what do you make of what's happening? Well, first of all, glad to be on your show, Sean. Thank you for the opportunity. I think we are witnessing a historic moment.

I think finally the day of reckoning is arriving for these criminal mullahs who hijacked the popular revolution after the Iranian people rose up and threw out another dictator into the ash heap of history, the Shah's regime.

and of course have brutalized the Iranian people. You mentioned tens of thousands of Americans and foreign nationals being executed or killed by this regime. Well, 100,000 dissidents have been executed by this regime in the past 46 years, including 30,000 in 1988 alone. Ninety percent of them from our movement,

the MEK, as it is known in the United States. And clearly, I think we are on the brink of changing Iran. But of course, the kind of change that we envision is not from above, it's from the bottom, by the Iranian people and the organized resistance. And actually, we have been working at this for the past four decades within Iran at great cost. Right now, the MEK-affiliated resistance units are

are active in virtually every city in Iran. They have been, like in 2024, they carried out some 3,000 acts of resistance against the IRGC and its paramilitary shock into the

So as the leader of our movement, Mrs. Rajavi, said a few days ago at the European Parliament, it is time for the international community to stand with the Iranian people, to stand with the opposition movement, the resistance movement.

uh... to uh... bring down the three g and i think until and unless the ball of the overthrow the kind of crisis that we have been witnessing over the past ten years or so will continue uh... you know dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot the little

The snake must be beheaded. And, of course, that's none other than Ali Khamenei. But as I said, it is the Iranian people that will accomplish this, joined by the organized resistance movement. And so the day of reckoning, as I said, is coming. And we are, of course, hard at work to make that happen.

come reality. But of course, what we need is the political and moral support of the United States, Europe. We don't want any boots on the ground. We don't want any money. We don't want any weapons. The Iranian people are quite capable and willing to give what it takes to reclaim the country from these mullahs and get Iran to democracy.

Let me let me ask you this. I think this is very important. What would you imagine is likely to unfold now that this strike took place in the nuclear facilities devastated? And President Trump did warn the people in Tehran to get out immediately and made clear that his his issues are not with the Iranian people, but with the government that that rules over them with an iron fist.

Yes, well that's an excellent question. First of all, the three sites that you mentioned, actually our movement exposed two of them. One, the Natanz site in 2002 and the Fordos site in 2005. But I think what is going to unfold is for you to see that the Iranian people will ultimately come to the streets once the wall of repression is cracked.

And that's exactly what the MEK resistance units are doing as we speak. They are like the tip of the spear that will make that wall of repression crumble because it is the brutality of the...

and threats to wipe the entire country off the map by the leadership of Iran, I would imagine that they have their sights on the Supreme Leader and probably on their economy, which would be your refineries, which are clustered together on that little island, and their infrastructure, which would mean the entire power grid could be taken out

probably with just two or three strikes and at that point the Iranian regime the Iranian people would suffer and I would imagine that would probably precipitate some type of change

Well, I think that the Iranian people are ready, basically ready for change. Remember that since 2017 there have been five major uprisings in Iran, the latest of which was in 2022, and ironically during those nationwide protests in which 750,000

of our fellow compatriots were massacred by the IRGC, the people were uniformly chanting "Death to the oppressor, whether the Shah or the leader," meaning that for them, the future does not involve the return of the crown and the cloak which they threw into the dustbin of history, nor are they content with the turban and the robe which the Mullahs represent. They want a representative government

and through the ballot box, and indeed that is what our movement and our leader is promising, a 10-point plan for the future of Iran which guarantees gender equality. Let me ask you this. Do you believe that this regime will survive based on what we know now and not anticipating any assistance for regime change from the U.S.?

I do not believe it will survive. I think, quite frankly, with what happened last Friday night, two nights ago. On Saturday night, yeah. Saturday night, apologies. I think we've turned the page. I think the policy of appeasement...

I think I suffered a great blow. You correctly said that the Biden administration tried to cajole this regime, tried to give it concessions, as did the Obama administration. I think as long as the international community does not offer any lifeline to this regime,

I think the Iranian people can topple them unless because remember that the regime used the windfall of the JCPOA hundreds of millions of dollars to not only boost its proxy forces in the region but also to strengthen and empower its reflective forces so if that lifeline is not given to them the Iranian people are quite capable and ready to do it look they it has to come from them

And regime change, you always have to worry what's on the other side of it. Is it going to be worse? Although I don't think you can get worse than the Supreme Leader Khamenei. I do not believe it will be worse, Sean. You know, this narrative that Iran will become another Libya, I submit to you, it's being promoted by the regime's lobby inside the Beltway. Iran is one of the two national states in the Middle East. It has a civilization of

several thousand years it has an educated population it has a young population most importantly it has an organized opposition and so as such uh... that this opposition is has a plan in place to step in the day after and lead Iran to democracy uh... very very very quickly and so i do not believe that

will be happening. By the way, our movement has tremendous support in the United States among Congress and majority. We're going to watch it very closely. I'm just up on a clock. Ali Safavi, I don't mean to interrupt you. Please forgive me, but we're just out of time. But I do appreciate you being with us. And I wish your country the best. And I hope they join the free world in the future. But that's going to be up to the Iranian people in the end.

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I haven't spent a lot of time today on this idiocy of the War Powers Act or after 9-11. I mean, Greg Jarrett had a great column going into great specificity and detail. Everything that President Trump did here was legal, and Democrats never had a problem when Democratic presidents got involved in any type of military efforts. They weren't demanding the full approval of Congress. They weren't claiming it's impeachable.

You know what the interesting thing is, is if you think back at the Democratic Party, they are the party of appeasement. And what Joe Biden allowed to have happen on his watch is beyond it's incomprehensible to me.

Because the Iranian regime was on the verge of bankruptcy because Donald Trump pulled America in his first term out of the idiotic Iranian deal that was supposedly negotiated by Obama, Biden and the Iranians. And then that deal was, well, let's drop, you know, billions of dollars in cash and other currency in cargo planes and give it to the Iranian mullahs. Well, what did they do with that money?

They spent it to build out more of their nuclear capability and the nuclear facilities. And they use the money for the weaponry that they provide to their proxies all throughout the region and foment terror in the region. And then Biden turned a blind eye to the sanctions, again, funding the terror regime.

with more money for more weaponry to try and achieve their goal of wiping Israel and the U.S. off the map. And then he even gave specific sanction waivers to make them even richer. You know, but history is not going to be kind to the likes of Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, because Democrats, they are classic appeasers and they are weak.

And they never had the strength that was needed to take on a regime, a terror regime like Iran. Let's go to 2013. Barack Obama. Iran doesn't need an underground fortified facility like Fordow for a peaceful nuclear program, you think? Listen, they don't need to have a underground fortified facility.

facility like Fordow in order to have a peaceful nuclear program. They certainly don't need a heavy water reactor at Iraq in order to have a peaceful nuclear program. They don't need some of the advanced centrifuges that they currently possess in order to have a limited peaceful nuclear program. Why didn't you bomb them out knowing darn well that it wasn't for a peaceful nuclear program and that this was their program to build eventually nuclear weapons?

And now Donald Trump. I mean, if Kamala Harris had been elected, Iran would be a nuclear state long before the end of her first term. That's the chilling part of it is another cut of Obama. This is 2009 talking about the Fordow facility.

and how it's inconsistent with a peaceful program. Listen. The Islamic Republic of Iran has been building a covert uranium enrichment facility near Qom.

for several years. The size and configuration of this facility is inconsistent with a peaceful program. And then Obama saying that if Israel's ever attacked, we will protect them. It's in America's best interest that Iran does not get a nuclear weapon. Sounds an awful lot like Donald Trump, except Donald Trump acted and the world is a more peaceful place today because he did what they would never dare do. Listen. First of all, Israel

is a true friend. It is our greatest ally in the region. And if Israel is attacked, America will stand with Israel. To the issue of Iran, as long as I'm president of the United States, Iran will not get a nuclear weapon. I made that clear when I came into office. Our goal is to get Iran to recognize it needs to give up its nuclear program and abide by the

UN resolutions that have been in place militarily than since then in many years. And we are going to continue to keep the pressure on to make sure that they do not get a nuclear weapon. That's in America's national interest. And that will be the case so long as I'm president. And how did that work out? They kept building out the nuclear program and making it bigger and stronger and more fortified. And Hillary Clinton, you

You know, saying if Iran tries to hit Israel with a nuclear weapon, I would obliterate them. No, she wouldn't. Listen. I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran. Whatever stage of development they might be in their nuclear weapons program in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally counterattack.

obliterate them that's a terrible thing to say but those people who run iran need to understand that because that perhaps will deter them from doing something that would be reckless foolish and tragic anyway let's get to our busy phones uh shall we 800-941 sean if you want to be a part of the program uh barry in my free state of florida hey barry how are you glad you called sir

Sean, I'm here. God bless you. I'm fairly short in my comment. If Iran follows through with closing down the Strait of Hormuz...

we should immediately go to destroy their oil and gas facilities, period. Listen, we have multiple targets. And as the president said, the hard targets have been taken out. The nuclear facilities, they were fortified. They were buried deep into the mountain and underground. And those have been obliterated.

If you look at their refineries, which is the heart of their economies, they're all clustered together and can be taken out with one strike. Now, if Donald Trump wanted regime change, he would have done that on Saturday night. He did not.

So far, the Israelis have not, but it certainly probably is on the table for them, considering they are directly responsible for tens, if not hundreds of thousands of weapons being fired into Israeli territory and killing many Israelis.

So it's not off the table. The next target to me would be their gas driven electric grid. I would say that's another target. And then you have the ultimate target, which, you know, is to take out their their their top military leaders the way the Israelis have been taking it out.

And at that point, they won't have a country. This is not going to be the forever war that many people spoke or tried to scare people about in the lead up to this. That's not the Donald Trump doctrine. And I tried to explain in detail why I supported the president if, in fact, he made this ultimate decision. Because Iran cannot have nuclear weapons. Listen to what Trump says.

And look at what he did this weekend. He did exactly what he said he would do. You should have listened to me, he said. Now the question is if whether or not, you know, I think the Israelis, they have their own conflict with them. They have been the victim far more than the United States of Iranian terror.

And I would not be surprised if the Israelis take this and absolutely obliterate every aspect of Iran, which probably would result in a regime change. But that was never President Trump's goal. President Trump had two objectives here, and he achieved them both. One, before he ever got started with his military mission, he first fortified our assets in the region.

You know, this this symbolic six missiles fired at our base in Qatar or Qatar, depending how you prefer to pronounce it. Both are acceptable. It was, first of all, that every indication is we were given a heads up. Well, that is the exact same thing that that happened after we killed Soleimani.

I mean, but the Trump doctrine is not an isolationist doctrine. And it's a doctrine that is rooted in basic, simple common sense. And in this case, Iran can't have a nuclear weapon. When he took out Soleimani, it was based on the premise that if you are the leading general fomenting terrorism that kills Americans, you don't have a right to live.

If you look at the same thing with Baghdadi and associates or the ISIS caliphate, these are all targets of Donald Trump or the mother of all bombs that he dropped in Afghanistan to send a message there, too, about killing Americans. So and in neither case was this a forever war for Donald Trump.

And, you know, when somebody asked him last week, well, what about are you going to put boots on? He looked at him like, are you stupid? And some of the comments made by people that claim to be his supporters, I'm like, do you not listen to him? Do you not watch his actions? Because, yeah, I guess everybody has their own agenda. But Donald Trump's the president. He's the commander in chief. And I happen to support the Trump doctrine.

And I think in this case, just like in the case of the mother of all bombs and Soleimani and the ISIS caliphate and Baghdadi and associates, I think he made the right call on each and every one of these decisions. Now, they knew going in that sleeper cells are within the United States, but they were here anyway. If they're plotting, planning, and scheming, you can thank Joe Kamala and Mayorkas

Everybody knew the possibility that the Straits of Hormuz may be closed as a means of cutting off, you know, X percentage of of the free flow of energy. But that that's that that ultimately is not going to work out well for the Iranians either.

or that they might mine those straits. And certainly our bases are in so much, in such close proximity to Iran that that would be a target too. But all of that was in place and planned before anything ever happened on Saturday night. That part I know. Anyway, my friend, appreciate the call. Quick break, right back. We'll continue straight ahead. 800-941-SHAWN is our number.

Final hour roundup is next. You do not want to miss it. And stay tuned for the final hour free-for-all on the Sean Hannity Show. Back to our busy phones. Let us say hi to Maria in California, the United Socialist Utopia State of Gavin Newsom. How are you? Oh, boy. How are you? Thank you so much, sir, for taking the call. Thank you. I think that's...

I think that it's very, very serious. And I'm not, I fully support the president and everything that he does. And people have to realize everybody respects him and he deserves it. And this wasn't his first rodeo. We've had four years of him. He knows exactly what he's doing strategically. However, the biggest concern that I feel here in California is that the bad actors amongst us, we don't know who is right.

here with us. And if, God forbid, the infrastructure, the electrical grids, the water suffers, we're in grave consequences because so many people, you know, oh, it's too late, basically. The horse is out of the barn once it happens. That's my biggest worry, is the people in the United States. And with the immigration situation, they tried. They're trying desperately to get rid of the bad actors, but they're...

Everybody, oh, they're taking the nannies away. They're not. They're not. The narrative is not. That is not correct. They are trying to clean up this mess that we have. So I don't know if we can ensure the public that we are safe from any terrorist acts. God bless everyone, because Donald Trump had to do what was needed.

These people are nuts in the Middle East. So that's my worry. It is a safer world today because of Donald J. Trump and him having the courage, being resolute enough to recognize the existential threat and to listen closely and to watch the actions of a terror state like Iran. And I really do question those...

the Democrats, others that lack all common sense that they were born with. I'm not really sure what some of their agendas are. I have very deep suspicions about particular biases of some individuals. You have the, for example, anti-Semitic wing of the Democratic Party. You know, I wonder if some of their opposition is rooted in that ideology and others. I

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