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S1E9: The We We Are (with Jon Stewart)
2025/1/16
The Severance Podcast with Ben Stiller & Adam Scott
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Adam Scott
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Ben Stiller
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Jon Stewart
Ben Stiller: 制作这个播客是一个巨大的成就，甚至可能比制作电视剧本身还要大。重新观看自己制作的剧集，是一种与制作过程脱节的全新体验。在制作过程中，我会欺骗自己，不去想作品是否会成功。直到完成最终剪辑后，我才开始担心作品是否会失败。《Severance》的独特性使其难以找到类似的作品进行比较。我担心最后几集无法达到前几集的水平。拍摄过程中的时间安排和演员的情绪状态对拍摄过程造成很大的挑战。第九集的拍摄是分阶段进行的，这使得我对最终效果感到不确定。第九集在视觉风格上与其他剧集有所不同，采用更多的手持摄影和稳定器拍摄。第九集的紧张感和悬念感营造得非常好，并且与前几集形成对比。在拍摄过程中，我们对观众的投入程度并不确定。在设计场景时，我们特意让演员 Zach Cherry 来测量手臂长度，以确保场景的真实性。剧中控制室的设计灵感来自 80 年代复古风格，也受到了《星际迷航》的影响。剧中走廊的设计需要考虑重复利用的问题。剧中控制室的显示器是 CRT 显示器，这与剧集的整体风格相符。剧组知道观众会仔细检查剧中细节，所以我们确保所有细节都是真实的。剧中设计让演员有实际的事情可做，这方便了拍摄过程。在剧集发布前，我担心观众不会相信剧中控制室的设定。剧集的目的是让观众即使不了解细节，也能被故事吸引。剧集的核心是关于人们对自身身份和目的的探索。当 MDR 的成员体验到爱和感情后，他们开始远离 Lumen。我们与 John Turturro 讨论了他在剧中发现的线索。John Turturro 将他父亲的二战军装带到了拍摄现场。Irving 在第九集结尾的处境象征着剧中所有角色的困境。演员们在诠释角色的内外人格时面临着挑战。我曾经担心观众不会相信剧中控制室的设定，但最终观众接受了这个设定。
Adam Scott: 回顾剧集时，我的心态是需要去讨论它，而不是像之前那样感到害怕和躲避。制作电视剧是一个长期而有趣的项目，工作本身也很有趣。Jon Stewart 对《Severance》的喜爱程度达到了痴迷的程度。当剧集的宣传海报出现时，我开始感到害怕，因为我意识到这部剧冒险很大。作为观众，我欣赏剧中每个细节都被精心考虑的风格。我们在拍摄派对场景时进行了很多实验，尝试了不同的拍摄方式。我们对第九集中的每个场景都进行了大量的讨论，以确保故事的连贯性。在拍摄过程中，我们需要权衡不同的因素，以确保故事的完整性。我确信，当他叫错 Cobell 的名字时，将会是剧情转折点。第九集成功地回应了观众在之前的剧集中投入的情感。
Jon Stewart: 我是 Adam Scott 的粉丝，所以观看任何 Adam Scott 出演的剧集。《Severance》的风格、氛围和基调非常独特，这让我感到耳目一新。我被剧中精细的细节和独特的风格所吸引。我被剧中独特的细节所吸引，并想知道这些细节是否具有更深层次的含义。我被剧中刻意营造的独特而真实的氛围所吸引。我甚至被片头序列所吸引。Bell Labs 的建筑非常独特，适合作为《Severance》的拍摄地。Bell Labs 的建筑从未被用于电影拍摄，这使其成为一个独特的拍摄地点。在长期创作过程中，做出大胆的创意选择是令人恐惧的，因为你无法预知结果。在第九集中，选择让 Dylan 作为关键人物去尝试连接内外人格是一个错误，因为他身材矮小，手臂短，难以完成任务。我被 Helly Severance 故事的布景规模所震撼，这与我以往参观过的其他剧组布景形成对比。我确信观众会相信剧中控制室的设定。剧集的核心主题是人们对自身身份和目的的探索，这与人们在生活中对自身身份和目的的探索相似。我赞扬了 Britt Lower 在剧中的出色表演。我确信观众会相信剧中控制室的设定。我被 Helly Severance 故事的布景规模所震撼。我确信观众会相信剧中控制室的设定。我确信观众会相信剧中控制室的设定。剧集结尾展现了公司邪恶的本质。Lumen 公司可能会操纵员工，使其选择切除记忆。
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Adam Scott: 'It's been really interesting going back and going through the episodes from the mindset of, I'm going to need to talk about this rather than just...'
Ben Stiller: 'it's a totally different experience watching it when you're disconnected from it when you're severed from the experience of having actually uh just made it'
Ben Stiller: 'I kind of fool myself somehow when I'm working on something. I'm just in it.'
Ben Stiller: 'This had such a, there was such oxygen in it, such inspiration, such different things that it's hard to find that.'
Ben Stiller: 'I was like, oh no, but the last three, I don't know if the last three are going to live up to the first three because I I didn't have as much prep time and it got more...'
Adam Scott: 'it was terrifying and it for me it was when the billboards went up and I saw my face huge around town and that was the first time I had experienced that that's when I freaked out because it's just like we really took a big swing here yeah we really'
Jon Stewart: 'it had such a unique... style, atmosphere, tone, you know, it anymore. It's so hard to find something where even the, the rhythm of it feels so fresh.'
Jon Stewart: 'When it comes to giving the innies time, why would you pick the character with the shortest wingspan?'
Jon Stewart: 'so many times you go into those sets and they are, I don't want to say shortcuts, but they don't have to create the fullness of experience.'
Jon Stewart: 'That's kind of a metaphor for life, you know?'
Jon Stewart: 'This is an evil that's beyond something we can even comprehend.'
Jon Stewart: 'You're his wife dying is the event that drove him to sever. So now you're thinking a wait are they conducting Experiments and doing shit to people to drive them to sever like is that also being Manipulated come on.'
Deep Dive
Ben Stiller and Adam Scott discuss the season finale of Severance with special guest Jon Stewart, a self-proclaimed superfan. They reminisce about filming, Jon's set visit, and the unique challenges of creating a show with such a high level of detail and intentionality.
- Jon Stewart's surprise Severance fandom
- Ben Stiller directed the season finale
- Discussion of the challenges of creating a show with a unique style and tone
- Jon Stewart's visit to the Severance set
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