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BONUS: Zelenskyy Makes Case For More Aid

2023/9/22
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泽连斯基:乌克兰与美国共享自由和民主的共同价值观,因此乌克兰正在对抗俄罗斯。俄罗斯的战争不仅仅是前线的战斗,还包括对民用基础设施的袭击、儿童的驱逐以及平民的杀害。不能与普京谈判,因为他不可信,并且会违背协议,之前的谈判都以失败告终。俄罗斯需要发生根本性的改变才能解决问题,仅仅更换领导人是不够的。乌克兰人民最想知道的是战争何时结束,但泽连斯基表示更准确的说法是何时取得胜利。乌克兰的目标是收复所有被俄罗斯占领的领土,但战争的长期化使得问题更加复杂。乌克兰政府采取的措施,例如统一信息渠道,是为了维护国家团结,对抗俄罗斯的宣传战。乌克兰政府对腐败采取零容忍态度,正在积极打击腐败,但承认腐败依然存在,并表示需要快速有效地解决问题以维护国际伙伴的信任。泽连斯基向乌克兰人民承诺,他会与他们站在一起,并为他们的未来而战。 麦卡锡:对援助乌克兰的资金使用情况提出质疑,并要求乌克兰方面提供明确的胜利计划。 美国外交官:建议乌克兰与俄罗斯进行谈判,即使谈判不涉及领土问题,也可以讨论结束战争的时间和方式。

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President Zelenskyy's interview with NPR discusses the ongoing war in Ukraine, emphasizing the need for continued foreign aid to counter Russia's aggression. He highlights the devastating impact of Russia's tactics, targeting civilians and infrastructure. The interview also touches upon international efforts to negotiate an end to the conflict.
  • Ukraine needs more foreign aid to win the war.
  • Russia's tactics include targeting the power grid and deporting children.
  • Zelenskyy believes negotiations with Putin are futile.

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Ukrainian president philanthropies Ellen skii says his country in the U. S. Share common values.

He enjoys bipartisan support and some republican resistance to funding the war. How does the answer questions about IT? I'm Stephen skip.

We interviews the landscape on this special edition of up first from npr news. Is there any way to negotiate? The li says russia's .

president can be trusted, and it's with putting with somebody. And after that, he forgot IT or kill people or forgot IT negotiated.

Also, we gathered questions from ukrainians to their president and our team at a Young ukrainian couple who decided to marry while the husband was on leave from the army. What does lens ki say about their future stay with us?

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we met ukrainian president volodia zilli skii. This week, he was in new york city for the meeting of the united nations, and he took some time to talk to a team from npr. The landscape was surrounded by people in suits, although he wore his trademark military clothes, all of Green pants in a dark swisher t he settled into his chair, and he wondered how his mixture .

of english and ukrainian would come across on rail. And sometimes english, yes. But in radio, if they won't hear my natural voice, if I will speak, they will hear a translation.

yes. Sancy observed that people can see the emotions on his face and might not even hear much of his voice. He wanted to reach americans who have supported ukraine's defense against russian invasion. So whenever possible he spoken english about shared values.

Yes, of course we have the same values, freedom and democracy, and that's why we are fighting against russia.

He says russia shows its well used, by the way, IT fights targeting the power grid or deporting children.

They kill our people, women, men, you saw IT. They deported children. They are bombing civilians.

It's not about only front line. It's not simple war, by the way. War couldn't be simple, but it's not just a war on the front line.

No energy system, nuclear plant, what is IT? What will be next? This is the .

message the landscape went on to deliver thursday in washington. His country has enjoyed bipartisan support, though a right wing faction is pushing right now to cut off us funding early this week, republican house speaker Kevin mccarthy seem to reflect those rightwing views. Is the lsi elected to congress? Is here our president? I don't think to commit.

I have questions for where's the accountability on the money we already spend? What is the plan for Victory? After those reMarks, mccarthy met silenzi and then elenchi answered his questions.

Ukraine's leader still faces doubts about how the war would end. Some foreign policy specialists say only diplomacy can do that. There are americans who have urged some kind of negotiation.

One of them is Richard host, a veteran U. S. Diplomats, one of a group of U. S. Diplomats who met with russian officials. I spoke with Richard ddos, and he wanted to know, are you willing to negotiate not over territory? You want all your territory back, but over the timing and the means by which that would happen .

and maybe the volume.

look, we have prepared, I guess, the very correct diplomatic way. He said ukraine did .

welcome talks with russia like the deal that allowed ukrainians to load grain onto ships to feed much of the world he says should suspended that agreement when it's on opportunity. In silence, sky words for .

blackmail.

how many times would you need to make the same mistake? really? I believe that with this leader, this is something that is impossible to do. We can achieve anything.

In one of your speeches here in new york, you said russia cannot be trusted. Ask projection.

I think yes.

yes. Is that your answer to any call for negotiations?

I think yes. We hear a lot of from intelligence and from different people, from different litters. What negotiations precaution had you have .

ganny precaution was the mercenary leader whom mute need against russian president putin. He later walked free under an arrangement that seemed to mean that he would not be harmed and then died in a mysterious is playing crash.

And it's not the first negotiations with putin with somebody. And after that, he forgot IT kill people or forgot negotiated.

He mentioned putin conversations with european leaders just before the war.

They focus their and full scale invasion never will go where we are now. Honestly, yes, it's through. You can't negotiate IT with the person doesn't want.

Does russia have to be permanently this empowered in some way?

You I believe .

they .

won't be coming .

to this on their .

own that .

they would need to have some sort of like changes, transformation and new face for the country.

So lsi pondered whether the real problem is russia or just putin. He concluded that IT shows a problem with russians, that they have allowed putin to stay in power so long with ukraine adding into another winter of war. A team from npr, kev buyo, went out into the streets this week.

They asked ukrainians what questions they would put to their president. Some said they support them and have no questions at all. But a woman named leod Miller, who was seventy three, said he spoke for many.

I think we all have one, a desire to know when the war is over.

What can you tell her?

Well, thank you for .

the question. I think the question addressed by allude Miller, who was seventy three year old time, I wish her many years. And I think this question is something that many ukraine es would like to ask. No matter the age, it's easier to say when we will have a Victory.

Synsi I has set a goal of recovering all ukrainian and territory that rush seized. Ukraine's late summer offensive has made limited gains but has moved slowly. The lengthening duration of the war complicates every problem in a democratic country.

And we reached out to ukrainians. One asked about martial law. Ukrainians have lived, done, rid since the invasion started. In our correspond to join a kkr is knows what it's like in key.

There are military checkpoints in and out of the city. You've gotta stop, get checked by guys with guns who look at your ideas to make sure you're in the country legally, that you're not a sabat or martial law also means confused. You've got to be home by midnight, or you could be detained by police. Shopping malls, cafes, bars were all closed by ten pm. And big gatherings like protests, music festivals, holiday celebrations, they are largely prohibited.

March law has been delayed parliamentary elections, and the president told us there are many obstacles to next year's scheduled presidential election. A ukrainian economist said he would like to know of iceland si would lift some of the martial law rules, especially one that combines the Operations TV channels. So lsi said the questioners should think about the value of unified information, what is a propaganda war, as well as a shooting one.

And we're all kind of reinforce and those steps that were made in order to have a unity inside the country and not to allow russia to kind of absorb S, I believe that those steps, they were made, they were right.

I want to to conclude by telling you a few more things that we heard from ukrainian, please. A number of ukrainians raised concerns about corruption and hoped that you would clean IT up. I know that in recent days, you have replaced the leadership of the defense ministry, and there were some concerns about corruption there. In your view, how widespread is corruption in the government today?

Well.

first, I want to say that we have a zero tolerance corruption, and this is, and everyone knows about this, so whenever we find any detail of corruption or corp. Practices, then everything is discussed openly and the people are kind of dismissed. And let us be Frank, there are kind of weak .

people and strong people .

everywhere in the world. I think you're saying .

there will always be some corruption and you will attack IT where you find IT.

Is that work?

yes. I think this is the only way how you can defeat the corruption. You can take steps, you can dismiss people, you can run investigations, and people will have to go to prison for corruption. But we have to kind of be very strict and very fast because we might lose the trust and the support of our partner. But once again, I would like to say that the way we're doing that, the way we are kind of showing and disclosing all of description, it's too well for someone to say that we are corrupt country. Now that's a different thing.

Our correspondent in cave was speaking with ukrainians this week and came across a couple who had just been married. They were just leaving the church. SHE was in address.

He was in his army uniform. He was briefly on leave, and they took the opportunity to marry. And they said, of the future, everything's going to drag on in the war.

double.

Yes, about our family, of course, like we concerned, but we believe in the best because like we love each other, we will handle everything, we will overcome everything. And like we fight for our family.

they wanna start a family. What promise can you make to them about their future and the future of their .

country promises? I'm not sure that they need promises. I think that people who said such strong words, and I know it's not about hoping. I I know that mostly our people, such people, that's why we will win.

But if we have to say strong, what I can say, I will be with them and my family will be with them, and is great that they will have children. They wanted to have IT. And that's so great, because what do we do? We do ever seen for the future of the children, and that is, so what can I? I can promote them that I will be with them, not at home. I'm afraid i'll tell them you're .

coming to visit.

Great, great, great. But anyway, so i'm unhappy. So especially, you know, the war divided people.

Somebody is ukraine, somebody abroad. But for those people who are in ukraine, all my thanks. I think you you saved IT you did IT, mr. President.

thanks for your time.

Yeah, thanks so much. ukrainy.

Ian, president voltaires lansky spoke with us in new york city. The interview is on video as well as audio. And you can see IT at npr that work.

This has been a special edition of up first from npr news. Our episode was produced by lisa weener and edited by allies. wider. The questions from ukrainians were gathered by our colleagues, joana q kisses, polo, evo va, hana, palm morinka and anton lobert a, our executive producer as ara, ara.

i'm Steve and skin.

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