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Will Trump Abandon Ukraine?

2025/4/24
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Josie Duffy Rice: 特朗普政府提出的乌克兰和平方案，实际上是强迫乌克兰让步，屈服于俄罗斯的目标，这反映了特朗普政府对权力的偏好和对国际关系的独特视角。该方案要求乌克兰放弃大片领土，并放弃加入北约的愿望，这对于乌克兰来说是极其不利的。 J.D. Vance: 美国已经向俄乌双方提出了明确的和平方案，如果双方不接受，美国将退出谈判。这体现了美国在乌克兰问题上的强硬立场，以及对和平解决问题的决心。然而，该方案的具体内容以及其对乌克兰的潜在影响，仍然存在争议。 Donald Trump: 我只想看到战争结束，双方都满意就行。我不偏袒任何一方，只想达成协议，拯救生命。然而，特朗普政府提出的和平方案实际上对乌克兰极其不利，这表明特朗普政府的优先考虑可能与乌克兰的利益不符。 Matt Duss: 美国提出的和平方案对俄罗斯有利，对乌克兰不利，缺乏具体的安全保障。这反映了特朗普政府对权力和国际关系的误判，以及对普京的偏袒。该方案未能充分考虑乌克兰的利益和安全关切，也未能有效阻止普京未来重启战争。 Volodymyr Zelensky: 泽连斯基坚决反对放弃克里米亚和加入北约的愿望，这体现了乌克兰维护国家主权和领土完整的坚定决心。他认为，特朗普政府提出的和平方案对乌克兰极其不公平，并且不愿意接受该方案。 supporting_evidences J.D. Vance: 'He spoke to reporters from India, where he's on a diplomatic trip. We've issued a very explicit proposal to both the Russians and the Ukrainians, and it's time for them to either say yes or for the United States to walk away from this process.' Donald Trump: 'Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office Thursday evening, President Donald Trump made his own objectives for the deal clear. Well, everything is good. I just want to see the war end.' Matt Duss: 'So what's your take on this deal? I mean, listen, let's just first say, like, I think everyone, no one more than the Ukrainians wants this war to end. But in general, this is a deal that seems to give Russia an awful lot.' Volodymyr Zelensky: 'Just hours before Vance's comments, Zelensky said Ukraine will not agree to a ban on joining NATO, nor agree to cede Crimea to Russia, calling it a constitutional violation.'

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The Trump administration is putting pressure on Ukraine to accept a U.S.-backed peace plan with Russia that closely aligns with Moscow's goals in the three-year war. The deal calls for freezing the battle lines that exist today — essentially forcing Ukraine to cede a vast swath of its eastern territory to Russian control. The U.S. also wants Ukraine to recognize the Crimean Peninsula, which Moscow illegally annexed in 2014, as Russian territory, and give up its goal of joining NATO. Vice President J.D. Vance said Wednesday that the U.S. would 'walk away' from negotiations if the two countries refused to accept the administration's terms. Matt Duss, executive vice president at the Center for International Policy and a former adviser to Vermont Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders, breaks down why the Trump administration wants to strong-arm Ukraine over Russia and what it says about President Trump's views on power.

And in headlines: Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent tried to ease fears over the administration's trade war with China, Illinois Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin announced plans to retire at the end of his term, and more Democratic members of Congress traveled to El Salvador to highlight Trump's threats to due process.

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