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Does nature deserve rights - and song credits?

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Natalia Jimenez: 本期节目探讨了赋予自然以人格权的运动,以及艺术家如何通过将自然音效融入音乐并捐赠部分版税来保护自然。该运动认为自然应该拥有与人类相同的权利,例如生存权和发展权,并应该受到法律保护。 节目中提到了洛杉矶雪松森林作为歌曲共同创作者的案例,以及Sounds Right倡议鼓励艺术家将部分版税用于自然保护。 Georgina Rannard: "自然权利"运动旨在赋予自然以法律权利,例如河流、森林等,使其拥有与人类或公司相同的权利,并受到法律保护。厄瓜多尔是第一个在其宪法中赋予自然权利的国家,但其执行和影响仍存在挑战。虽然一些国家已经通过了相关法律,但在实践中,平衡自然保护与经济发展之间的冲突仍然困难重重。许多法律仍然以人类为中心,而赋予自然权利需要改变这种思维方式。新西兰的怀唐伊河被赋予法律地位的案例,以及美国圣莫尼卡的类似法律,都表明这一运动正在获得越来越多的关注。然而,执法仍然困难,需要强大的政府支持和资金投入。总的来说,这是一个新兴的理念,其有效性还有待进一步观察。 Bill Sellanga: 作为一名音乐家,我通过将自然音效融入我的音乐作品中,并通过Sounds Right倡议捐赠部分版税来支持自然保护。我选择使用肯尼亚常见的鸟类和环境声音,以此表达我对家乡的热爱,并呼吁人们关注气候变化和环境保护。我认为艺术可以成为连接人们与自然、促进环境保护的有效途径。

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What is the Rights of Nature movement and how does it aim to protect ecosystems?

The Rights of Nature movement advocates for granting legal rights to natural entities like forests, rivers, and animals, ensuring their protection. It is based on the idea that nature has inherent rights to exist, grow, and be free from harm, such as deforestation, pollution, or exploitation. This approach seeks to impose legal consequences on activities that threaten these ecosystems, inspired in part by indigenous cultural beliefs that view nature as equal to humans.

Which countries have adopted Rights of Nature legislation and what are some examples?

Ecuador was the first country to codify Rights of Nature in its constitution in 2008. Other countries include Bolivia, India, and New Zealand. In New Zealand, the Whanganui River and the Te Urewera region were granted legal personhood in 2017. Spain also recognized the Mar Menor lagoon as a legal person in 2022. These laws aim to protect natural entities by giving them legal standing, though enforcement remains a challenge.

Why is Ecuador considered a trailblazer in the Rights of Nature movement?

Ecuador is seen as a trailblazer because it was the first country to include Rights of Nature in its constitution in 2008. This decision was influenced by the country's rich biodiversity and strong indigenous culture, which views nature as inherently valuable. However, challenges persist, such as balancing these rights with economic activities like mining, which often conflict with environmental protection.

How does the Sounds Right initiative support nature conservation through music?

Sounds Right is a global initiative that encourages artists to use natural sounds in their music and redirect a portion of their royalties to nature conservation. For example, musician Blinky Bill incorporated sounds of African birds and Kenyan dusk into his track 'OH WAH feat. NATURE,' using the initiative to raise awareness and funds for environmental protection.

What challenges exist in enforcing Rights of Nature laws?

Enforcing Rights of Nature laws is difficult due to competing economic interests, such as mining and development, which often take precedence. Additionally, legal systems rooted in human-centric or Eurocentric perspectives struggle to accept nature as having equal rights. While some cases have been won in court, actual restoration or protection of ecosystems remains inconsistent.

What is the significance of the Whanganui River being granted legal personhood in New Zealand?

The Whanganui River in New Zealand was granted legal personhood in 2017, recognizing its cultural and spiritual significance to the Maori people, who view the river as inseparable from their identity. This legal status means harming the river is equivalent to harming the Maori people, aiming to protect it from further depletion caused by logging and poor farming practices.

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The Rights of Nature movement wants to give inherent rights to nature - so forests, animals and rivers would have the right to protection. More and more countries are starting to adopt this kind of legislation. Ecuador became the first country in the world to codify Rights of Nature in its constitution in 2008. In New Zealand, legislation has recognised the mountainous region Te Urewera and the Whanganui River as legal persons. In 2022, the Spanish lagoon Mar Menor became the first natural entity to be granted legal status as a person within Europe. BBC Climate and science reporter Georgina Rannard explains how it works and whether the approach is helping to protect the environment.

Another part of the movement wants to see nature recognised for the role it plays in music too. The people behind a track called The Song of the Cedars are petitioning Ecuador’s copyright office to recognise Los Cedros forest as a co-creator, given it was composed there.

Sounds Right is a global music initiative which encourages artists who use sounds from nature - like rain or animal noises - in their tracks to redirect some of the royalties they collect to help conserve and protect nature. Bill Sellanga, aka Blinky Bill, a musician and DJ based in Nairobi, tells us why he signed up, for his track OH WAH feat. NATURE.

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