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Europe plots a path for Ukraine after Trump v Zelensky

2025/3/3
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Roger Boyes: 我认为特朗普和泽连斯基之间的冲突可能是一种表演,目的是向俄罗斯表明美国并非乌克兰坚定不移的盟友,从而促使俄罗斯参与谈判。特朗普似乎认为乌克兰问题是欧洲的问题,欧洲应该承担乌克兰的防御费用,并推动和平协议以从中获利。然而,这种冲突也可能损害美国与其东欧盟友之间的信任,因为这些盟友长期以来一直依赖美国的保护。表面上看来是琐碎的个人恩怨,却引发了对北约联盟存在的根本性质疑。要实现和平协议,需要考虑欧洲盟友的军事实力和参与意愿,以及美国是否会提供支持。欧洲缺乏足够的兵力来确保和平协议的执行,一个可行的方案是空中和海上停火,避免地面部署军队。特朗普的反复无常使得欧洲和乌克兰难以制定短期、中期或长期的计划。特朗普政府的政策变化迅速,依赖于特朗普的不可预测性,这与以往总统的政策制定方式有所不同。特朗普可能在运用“疯子理论”,通过不可预测的行为来增强自身的谈判筹码。特朗普政府的行为是为了让美国再次成为一个受人尊敬的世界强国,这种做法可能存在危险。 Alex Dibble: (无核心论点,主要负责引导访谈) Toby Gillis: (无核心论点,主要负责引导访谈) Sir Keir Starmer: 呼吁组建一个愿意承担重任的联盟来结束战争,确保持久和平,但该计划仍取决于美国的安保承诺。 Donald Trump: 认为乌克兰是欧洲的问题,欧洲应该为乌克兰的防御和重建买单,并推动和平协议。对泽连斯基表达了不满,并可能试图通过这种方式来获得谈判筹码。 Volodymyr Zelenskyy: 在与特朗普的冲突中,似乎受到了某种程度的‘伏击’,这可能是为了向俄罗斯展示美国并非乌克兰坚定不移的盟友。

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As Europe reels from the breakdown of diplomatic relations between the US and Ukraine, its leaders sprung into action over the weekend. Britain's Sir Keir Starmer and France's Emmanuel Macron announced a "coalition of the willing" to be involved in the "heavy lifting" needed to bring peace to Ukraine. But can it be done without consensus between Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelenskyy, or even without any US support? The Times' Diplomatic Editor, Roger Boyes, analyses if peace is salvageable from the new low of Friday's Oval Office row.

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