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How Mark Rutte is trying to save NATO

2025/4/4
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主持人: 美国对北约盟友的国防支出要求,以及由此产生的信息混淆,使得北约面临分裂风险。美国国务卿马可·卢比奥在布鲁塞尔北约会议上发表讲话,称美国积极参与北约,但需要盟友增强自身实力。这种模棱两可的信息可能被敌人利用,甚至导致二战以来一直守护西方安全的联盟瓦解。 Rose Gottemoeller: 马克·鲁特正通过多方面努力维持北约团结。首先,他与白宫保持沟通,巧妙地处理与特朗普总统的关系。他还积极接触欧洲盟友,强调北约是一个强大的联盟,盟友们团结一致,致力于共同保卫欧洲,并展现出强大的军事实力。鲁特不仅致力于与美国合作,也致力于增强欧洲自身的防御能力。 Rose Gottemoeller: 欧洲盟友正在回应美国可能将战略重点转向印太地区的警示,并加强自身国防能力,同时加强与欧盟的合作。这种合作在过去几年中得到了显著改善,欧盟和北约领导人之间的沟通也更加密切。 Rose Gottemoeller: 欧洲盟友应该向特朗普传递他们正在增强自身国防能力,减少对美国依赖的信息。他们应该强调自身在情报、侦察、空中加油和卫星通信等方面的能力建设,这将使他们能够更有效地运作,并减少对美国关键支持的依赖。这种独立能力的增强,将更有利于特朗普政府继续参与欧洲事务,并与欧洲北约盟友以及加拿大合作。 Rose Gottemoeller: 乌克兰加入北约的进程是不可逆转的,即使它不能成为战争结束协议的一部分。乌克兰正在通过加强军队和改善治理来为加入北约做准备,而与欧盟的合作也将有助于这一进程。

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This chapter explores the challenges facing NATO's unity, particularly the mixed messages from the US regarding its commitment to the alliance and the impact of these messages on the alliance's stability. The role of Mark Rutte in maintaining unity is highlighted.
  • Mixed messages from the US regarding NATO commitment
  • Concerns about NATO's fracture
  • Mark Rutte's role in maintaining NATO unity

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As NATO foreign ministers meet in Brussels, Secretary General Mark Rutte is on a diplomatic mission to preserve the alliance's unity. Former NATO Deputy Secretary General Rose Gottemoeller explains why he’s the man to both woo Donald Trump and get Europe to do more.

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