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Okay, guys. So on our Embrace Your Sexuality episode of the pod, I kind of made fun of Melissa saying sadomasochism and did a rift on the idea of somebody making it into a beat, which is something that they do on the Doughboys podcast, which I love. If you haven't listened to it, give it a listen. But you guys did it. And I'm so touched.

tickled by it. I just love it so much. We had a couple people do it. And I just think this is so funny. And if I think it might be like something we continue on the pod. So like if one of us says something really weird and totally deranged and outlandish, please feel free to turn it into the newest club beat. I'm ready to party. Let's do it. You guys I know you can. You're very talented. All of you.

Okay, so the first one is from a more better listener that called themselves B-Temp, which is adorable. I know that's not your real name, but adorable. It's your DJ name. Can't wait to hear this one. Fatal masochism. And this next one is from a more better listener named Ash. Thank you so much, Ash, for doing this. Fatal masochism. These are so funny, you guys. Thanks. More, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more.

Welcome to More Better, a podcast where we stop pretending to have it all together and embrace the journey of becoming a little more better every day. Or at least trying to, as I clearly am right now. Oh, wow. That one, that's Melissa Fumero. And that's Stephanie Beatriz. How are you, friend? I'm okay. You? I'm great. Have you been doing anything lately that's a little more better, Stephanie? Honestly, no.

Well, I leave for a job pretty soon. I have to leave the country. So I'm just trying to like relax and enjoy my house and not stress too much. Oh, that's good. It's great to have a job, but it's hard to leave home. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is the – Four months. Yeah. It's a long time. I know. Yeah. It's a long time, bro. It's a long time, bro. How about you? Have you done anything that's more better lately? Well, I am fresh off a trip with my family.

And we went to the East Coast. When we are in Florida, we keep our kids on West Coast time, so they go to bed late. And then I go to bed when they go to bed. And then I stay in bed until they wake up. So I got like nine, ten hours of sleep almost the whole time while I was in Florida. With the exception of a few nights in the beginning because Bridgerton Part 2 had come out. And so obviously I had no choice. Don't tell me anything. Oh, my God. Don't tell me anything. I haven't watched it yet. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

I'm so excited for you to watch it and please text me immediately when you finish. Don't tell me anything. It's so horny this season. It's always so horny. It is incredibly horny though. It's hitting another level of horny. It is. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I know what you mean. It's great. It's great. I love it. Because last season was like so much buildup and just basically two people like breathing hot air into each other like very closely for an entire season. Right.

And this season, it's like... Right, which is great. Which is great. Also, listen, love a slow burn. Love a slow burn. But this season, it's like, grab a boob. Get it. Get into it. Reach up under a skirt. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Go for it. And, yeah. Well, I like how this devolved into... It did. ...our talking about Bridgerton. I'm watching America's version of Bridgerton, which is Love Island, USA. Yeah.

It's so good. I love it so much. It's so funny. Oh,

My dream would be to do the commentary on it, but Ian Sterling, who does the commentary on it, is so good that nobody can match it because he's got that great accent and he's just ridiculous. But that would be my dream is to do guest commentary on Love Island. I want that for you. Yeah. I want it for me too. They should do a season where it's like celebrity guest commentary.

Commentary. If it's bad, then it would ruin the show because it's so stupid and funny. Okay. Okay. You guys, this week, we're not talking about... We're not talking about any of this. ...television. Although, listen, you know what? We work in TV. We like TV. We watch TV. Melissa's taste is a little better than mine. That's not true. Or like a more...

You know what? You're right because both shows are horny. It's just different kinds of horny. Different kinds of horny. And I love all the cheesy rom-coms and you like some really cool anime stuff that I don't watch. So, you know, it's all – our tastes are varied anyway. It's varied tastes, guys. Marble.

We've been reading your emails and we've been listening to your voice notes, which is really cute, you guys. Thank you for sending them. And thank you guys for writing. Yeah. And this week's topic comes from a listener request. By the way, if you have a suggestion for a future episode, please email us at morebetterpod at gmail.com. And you can include a voice note to be featured on the pod. So let's read the email. Okay.

It says, hello, hi to whoever this email may reach. It reached us. It did. It's us. It's us, guys.

My name is Jay. These episodes have really been enjoyable to listen to, especially in my own downtime where I can relax and switch off. Oh, that's nice. Thanks, Jay. So what I would like to be more better at is I find that I struggle with overthinking, or I should say I catch myself overthinking about something, which usually just makes it worse. Oh, I understand. Mm-hmm. I was hoping you could talk about how to overcome this. I mean, we can try. We can try. Thank you in advance. Okay.

Thank you in advance for taking the time to read my passage. Oh my God. Are we in Bridgerton? I really appreciate it. Kind regards, Jay. Thanks, Jay. Jay, can I just say your manners are impeccable. I don't remember the last time I read an email where someone signed off kind regards and I kind of want to. Oh my God. Also like,

Taking my time to read my passage, my passage. My passage. So we liked this. We are going to talk about overthinking today. Melissa, can you explain what you think overthinking means? Well, I have my interpretation of overthinking, but a definition of overthinking that I looked up or that was given to me. Overthinking is deep thinking that spirals into unproductive thinking.

can be correlated with anxiety, depression, and or OCD. Of course. Yes. And the spiral, it's the spiral. That word spiral, I think, is key when talking about overthinking because that is the feeling for me.

when I've been stuck overthinking. And I think when I was younger, I was, it was really bad because, uh, in case you don't know, anxiety and I are BFFs, best friends forever. Ooh. Um, and I've learned to live with my bestie, uh, a little bit more better as I had gotten older, touch and go up and down, as we all know that journey is. Um,

But when I was younger, obviously everything's harder when you're younger. And it was, I just remember like the spiral being such a huge part of my life with like everything, getting dressed in the morning, like making choices about the order to do things or like what to, if I was put in charge of planning something. Yeah.

Yeah. What about you? What's your experience with overthinking? I mean, it's an interesting one, right? Because like, I think... Okay, so let me start by saying I did just go see Inside Out 2. And have you seen it? I have not. No. My kids saw it, but I couldn't go. It's pretty fantastic. And there's a new emotion, a new character, anxiety. And like...

I just thought that was such a smart and incredible way to introduce people

The idea of anxiety to kids or like this idea to like name what they are going through because every as I've gotten older, I realize every single person that I know is dealing with anxiety in some kind of way. Some people are better at managing it. Some people are learning how to manage it. And some people don't even know that that's what they're struggling with. And it's just like they're normal, which I would say is me. It's been.

a journey to get to the place where I'm like, oh yeah, okay, that's what this is. But for me, overthinking kind of manifests as like, I guess it is a spiral. It's less like about, it's less about like planning for the, it's not like a planning thing for me, you know? It's not like a, it's more like I start kind of

Thinking about how everything is going to go wrong. Oh, yeah. Like, I think about what could go wrong, like, as if that's going to, like, help me or protect me. So, yeah, like, that's kind of what happens to me. Like, from Jay's letter, it sounds like maybe the idea is, like, for Jay –

It's like maybe they start thinking about something and then they can't stop. And then it's like a cycle, like a, just like kind of like a spiral. Yeah. Yeah. Um,

But I think it's different for everybody the way that it kind of happens. So like I thought this was really interesting. Isis, our producer, sent us this article from the Harvard Business Review. And like I just I thought this would be interesting to bring up now because there's like kind of what happens in the article is this woman named Melody Wilding who is a licensed what? What is it? Licensed master social worker.

There you go. Who's like, you know, this person knows what they're talking about. Yeah. We barely do, but this person does. And what she said about overthinking is that there's kind of like, you can kind of group it into three types, right? There's rumination, which is like a mental loop where you dwell on past events, particularly negative or distressing ones, right? There's future tripping, which is me. I'm the future tripper concerned about what lies ahead.

Right. Future tripping can escalate to the point where it like stops you from doing stuff. Right. And then overanalyzing. While rumination and future tripping are bound by time, one that's looking back and the other looking forward, overanalyzing is centered on depth. It involves diving incredibly deep into a topic, thought or situation, often to the point of excess. So it's just like getting stuck in the

The thing, the overanalyzing of like this one moment or this one thing and getting bogged down in details that might not be particularly relevant. So I thought that was really interesting because like it does feel like everybody's kind of overthinking is kind of different, right? I like this because I think it's important to...

To begin to identify what type of overthinker you may be, right? Right. Because the more specific we can get about like the things that we struggle with, I feel like helps us kind of figure out ways to get out of them or manage them or just be better at them. Don't you think? Right. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't overthink about like what to eat. Right. Like what happens to me is like, like I'm not an overthinker about food. For example, I'm,

I freeze because like I don't have the capability. So like I'll open the fridge and look around and be like, this is too much. I can't like make myself a sandwich. Right. Forget it. And then I'll close the fridge. So like I would call that something else. Right. Like that's something else. Yeah. Or like my sister, for example, has been helping my mom pick furniture for her house and like

Getting these two to try to pick a couch or a rug is like motherfucking pulling teeth, yo. I'm like, what about this one? What about this one? What about this one? You know, like, I have had to...

I've had... I can't tell you how many times I've been like, it's just a couch, you guys. It's just a couch. Like, you know, you can return it. But it's also... You can return it. I'm with... I identify, I relate with your mom and your sister because it's not just a couch, Stephanie. No, girl. You're going to sit on it every day. And then you have to think about, is it comfortable enough? How will it break in? How's it going to look in the room? Is it too big? Is it too small? Like, that's where...

My brain goes, and I can have paralysis sometimes, like when we've moved and had to go furniture shopping. But there's answers to those questions. Yes, but sometimes there's multiple answers to them, Stephanie. Sometimes there's more than one right answer. Okay, so here's what I do in that case.

This is what I did with my mother. Okay. I was like, write down the things that you want, right? Like you want, she wants the couch to be soft. She wants, because like for me, and I'm not a journaler, but when it comes to like this stuff, it's like, oh God, I'm spinning out about some, you know, they're spinning out about a couch, right? Yeah. Well then just like write down what you actually want out of that couch. You want it to not be too big for the space. Yeah. You want it to be soft enough to be able to cuddle your granddaughter and read books. You want it to look French country chic. You,

You want it to, you know, be stain resistant. Whatever it is that you specifically need out of that couch. Like the non-negotiables, right? Yeah. The non-negotiables. Like for you guys, it would be like this couch has to be kid friendly because like we've got two kids and a dog. Yeah. Right? Yeah. So we've got to have...

something that feels like it'll survive that. And then once you have some of that stuff written down, then you get into the nitty gritty of like, okay, well, how much space do we have? Let's measure it. Okay, well, what's the return policy on this couch? Can we send it back if we hate it? You know, like-

okay, how much time do we have before we have to make a final decision? You know, like there's like, I think that there's ways to, and also sometimes you just gotta bite the bullet, like bite the motherfucking bullet. You just gotta bite the motherfucking bullet. I know, I know, but it's- You have to, you have to choose. Literally this conversation is the reason why I have had the same furniture for like over a decade. Let me in there, Melissa, let me in there. Because every time I think about switching something out, I get paralyzed. Yeah.

Oh, my God. You know that like little ottoman in my living room? It's like too big and I want to put like a couch there. The ottoman on the side? Yeah. No, it's fantastic. It's fantastic. There's room for the art above on the wall. Yeah. You already have that big leather couch. You guys are now, you're getting a lot of personal information about Melissa Romero's living room. It's been featured on the IG. It's not a secret. You have that great leather couch. It's a very...

hefty piece of furniture. Yeah. You don't need another couch in there. You don't need another couch. You don't. That's not an ad for anything. But see what my overthinking. We cut to a commercial for Wayfair. My own overthinking about my living room has spiraled us into a conversation about all the living room furniture and what are the problems about it. Yeah, I don't know. Look at how direct I am about it. But you are. You're so decisive. Do it. I am. I am about that stuff. Forever.

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Let's go places. I think that there is something about being decisive, making choices that for me can help with overthinking and especially like the overanalyzing thing. I was thinking this morning, particularly about when I started directing and that first, that episode on Brooklyn where I first started directing first couple of times, I would spiral so much because I was overloaded with like the choices of like,

how I could do the scene, you know, like I would kind of figure out the blocking pretty quickly because I think that part comes easier to actors. But then I would, I would be like, well, but what if there, I think because also I was insecure about, you know, because I was just starting out and I was just learning. So then I think part of the overanalyzing was like,

What if there's a better way to block this? Or what if there's like a thing I'm not thinking of that I could do with the camera to highlight a joke? And I would just spiral into all these possible routes I could go and

And then I realized at a certain point that I was just like self-sabotaging and I also wasn't getting any work done because like three hours would go by and I'd be like, oh shit, I'm still on this one scene and I have 30 more to block. And then it was this moment of just being like, I just have to make a decision. I just have to pick a thing, commit to that, make the plan, do the thing, and I can come back to it later. If I, at three in the morning, come up with a better idea,

I can write it down on my phone real quick, which that has happened. I have woken up in the middle of the night and been like, this is what I should do with the camera. That's a good idea. And then I grab my phone and I like write it down really quick and like go back to sleep. But yeah, it's... And I think I have...

over the years trained myself where I feel like people sometimes will comment about how decisive I can be. And part of it is like a little bit of training of just like, if I know, if I think about it for more than five minutes, I might go into a spiral. And so I'm going to cut myself off before I even go into the spiral and just make the goddamn decision and commit to it. That's really good. And say, this is what I'm doing. That's really good. And move on.

That's a really good tip for real life. Like that's an application that we can use in real life, right? Like because you can actually –

set a timer for yourself, like a brain timer or an actual phone timer and be like, I'm going to think about this for 10 minutes. And if I don't have a decision, then I'm just going to like do something like something. Pick something. Just pick the first. Yeah. Even if I don't like it. Pick something. Just pick something. And then oftentimes, like when you let go and you move on from that decision, sometimes there is a better answer that comes like naturally. I think organically, like in a random moment, you go, oh, that's what it was.

But like you don't – I don't think – Me getting dressed and putting on the wrong shoe. Me getting dressed and being like, oh. And then I'm like I have – I'm like, okay, just get dressed. Put it on. And then I put it on. I'm like, oh, no. It's not this shoe at all. It's that shoe. It's that shoe. Yeah. That's what happens to me. Yeah. I know. I do try to give myself a timer about getting dressed, but it rarely happens. It's not –

But this isn't overthinking for me. This is like a joy. I really enjoy getting dressed and putting stuff together, although it doesn't look like it, you guys. I'm usually in jeans and a t-shirt. It's fine. Getting dressed for me is a similar process without the joy. Oh, my God. Yeah.

That's shocking to me. Isn't it shocking to learn things about people? I mean, I know that about you, but it's also just like, why? Why is that? Oh, my God. But always. For some reason, getting dressed has always given me some level of anxiety. It's gotten better over the years, and I feel like I've gotten better at it, and I've let go of a lot of, but oh, my God, so many mornings before school in tears. Just being like, I don't know what to... Just overcome with the anxiety of what to wear that day. Yeah.

Because you were afraid of what people were thinking of you? I think so. Like, people are going to look at me and judge me? Yeah, I was, like, really insecure and just, yeah, like, I don't know. I was a very anxious teenager. Do you guys hear that, though? Like, whoever's listening to this, this is one of the most beautiful people in the world, and she's saying she's insecure. So, like, if you feel insecure…

You just have to remember that like most of the time it's just your brain feeding you absolute bullshit. Absolute bullshit. To try to protect you, you know? Yeah. To try to protect you.

But that's what my brain does like with overthinking. Like I don't, I do the future negative. My friend Lena, my life coach Lena, my friend Lena calls it negative future fantasy. So like my imagination goes and goes to what could happen in the future, which is gnarly and awful. Yeah.

And that's where I overthink. I go, it's going to be bad. I'm not going to be good at it. I'm, you know, it's going to... This is very true about you. I'm remembering some freakouts you had during the strike.

Yeah. Like, I'm not going to work again. This is it. I had momentum and now that's it. Our entire industry is going to collapse. There's going to be no jobs for anyone. It's all AI. We're going to have to become some other kind of like maybe I'll be a postal worker, which, you know, a very cool job. But it's not where my passion lies. Literally to those who are listening, she's not even embellishing. Like these were the conversations we were having during the strike. And I was like, I think it's going to be okay. Yeah.

And then like I start thinking like my family depends on me, like my mom and my kid. We're all going to be out on the street. Like I just have like so many people that are depending on me and like what if I can't provide and what if there's an earthquake and what if we don't have insurance and what if this and what if that and what if my kid hates me when she grows up. Constantly just like. Well, that's every parent thinks about that. Totally spit.

spin out. But do you think about it at three in the morning when you wake up to go to the bathroom and you can't get back to sleep for three hours? I do. Yeah. Okay. Well, maybe I'm not alone then. No. Yeah. Three in the morning. What if I die young? Like, oh, yeah. Yeah. It's the worst. Three in the morning overthinking is the worst. That's when it happens to me. Yeah. It's most of the time when it happens to me.

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And then how do you get out of it? Do you just stay awake or do you have any? So what I try to do, okay, so I have some practical tips that my therapist gave me, which is like, get up out of bed. Get up out of bed. Don't pick up your phone. Yeah. Get up out of bed. Like, try to sleep for like a few minutes, right? But if your brain's really going, get up out of bed. Go to the living room or go to another room and get something to read that's not like that great. So like you can't be reading like a

you know, a court of whatever. You can't be like reading your ACOTAR books, you know, like if you don't know what that is, Google AOL. Yeah. Don't be, don't be picking up your favorite thriller and pick up some kind of like something kind of boring to read. Like, you know, I, I don't know what you have in your house. It's boring. Like maybe it's a book that you've been trying to read for a while. It's not that exciting. Yeah. Or like look at a magazine or do something that's like sort of mellow and quiet. Yeah.

And then try to get your brain going on that and then try to go back to sleep. But the minute that you pick up your phone, it's over. It's literally what my therapist said to me. So, you know, I trust her. Don't pick up the phone. No. And then the other thing that I think about a lot is like, is that true? Like, meaning that, you know, for example, when I think about Roz hating me in the future.

Like, is that true? Well, I don't know because it hasn't happened yet. So like, I don't know. Yeah. And no amount of me spinning out about it in this moment at three o'clock in the morning is going to give me the answer that's going to either avoid it or fix it because none of it has happened yet. So like, that's the thing that I go back to a lot. I'm like, is that true? Is our industry completely over? Is it, you know, all AI? Like, is that true? I don't know. So I have to keep moving forward

mentally in a place of like, I don't know if that's true. I could try to find out like whatever I can find out, but I don't know if that's true. So because I don't know if it's true, why am I sitting here spinning out on it? You know, there's this thing called, what is it called? Short-term temporal distancing, like, which is like your brain kind of like puts it away. Like you just kind of like put it in a little baggie.

And tie it up. Put it in a little baggie. Put it in a little baggie. Tie up the baggie and put it all the way to the back of your brain closet. Yeah, just because you don't need to like dig in there right now. No. That's the thing that I kind of like have to...

That's the other thing about overthinking is that sometimes what happens is you overthink the overthinking and you go like, why can't I? Why can't I? Then you start judging it. Why can't I? And then you judge it. And that's the other thing that gets you really like spinning out too, which I think is what Jay was getting at in that letter, which is like, then I don't know how to stop, which is like, it's okay that you don't know how to stop. You're not...

You know, like the problem is the brain. We own it. It's ours. Right. But we're also not like the expert on it. We think we're the expert because it's our brain. But like, we're not. We're not. We're just not. And I think people that go to school for a long, long time to figure it out and like even they don't know.

I think it's, yeah, but I like this idea of it's essentially how do you pull yourself back into the present, right? Yeah. Because like what you were saying, and I can also, the times that I've talked to Laina about my anxiety, I remember one time she told me that anxiety is fear of the unknown.

And that really resonated with me because I was like, oh, yeah, I'm just a lot of what I'm tripping about is stuff that I can't control. So it's like this idea that you're talking about of like, how do we pull ourselves like just back into the present? Like whatever that is, whether it's movement or journaling or reading something boring or yeah, it's like, how do we just get out of our heads and just put all that shit in a little bag, put it to the side?

Get back to the present and be like, all right, what's in front of me? What can I control? And what can I like do? Yeah. Well, the other thing I do sometimes is like I go, well, if I don't think about this right now, then like when am I going to think about it? Yeah. It's a really bad. That's a bad move, bro. I'm going to have to schedule some time later to stress out about this. And like.

Honestly, yes. You can actually – I mean, I'm not a journaler, but I am like a list maker. And I will straight up write down, think about how you're going to X, Y, Z. How do I – whatever. Whatever it is, the thing that you're stressing about, how am I going to –

blah, afford to make this like car payment or trip happen for my family or like pay off the student loan. It's like, you don't have to think about that at three in the morning. You don't need to. Like you can write it down on a piece of paper and then like schedule some time for yourself this week. Like, okay, Wednesday I have a couple hours to kind of brainstorm about what I'm going to do about this. Like you don't have to think about it right in that second, which is like,

Sometimes I see Brad do that. Like sometimes he'll be like, I have to think about it right now. I'm like, no, you don't. Right. You can set that aside and like wait for a second, you know. You can put it on the counter and like take care of it in a minute. Try not to forget about it because I think that's the fear, right? It's like, well, if I don't take care of this in a second, like I'm not going to be able to figure it out. And it's like, well, are you sure? Like, is that true? Right. You know, is that true? I don't know. I don't think it is. More, more.

I feel like we got some good takeaways and tips today with overthinking, but I also feel sweaty and stressed out just talking about overthinking. Yeah, it's a big thought. Yeah.

Yeah. Overthinking is a really big thing. It's not just one thing or another. And it's like connected to all these other little bits. It's very complex. Fear of the future. Anxiety. And we didn't even get into like freaking overthinking about some stupid shit you said 10 years ago because I do that too. Oh, God.

Oh, my God. I went to an event the other night. Just say this really quick. And I was like, we were talking about Celine Dion. And someone was saying they are going to watch the documentary because they really want to, you know, they feel so bad for her about like what, you know, she's going through right now or like physical problems. And, you know, she's worked her whole life to to.

be able to sing and now she can't really, she's not going to be able to do the thing that she's wanted to do forever. And I like made some, I don't even remember what I said. I made some like dumb joke, you know? Oh no. And listen, we shouldn't joke about people's health problems. And I don't think I did in that moment, but I made some dumb joke and everybody in the circle just stared at me. And I, I,

was like, oh no. Oh no. But also we were at an event and a party and it was like kind of loud. So like I don't know if they were waiting for me to say something. I don't know. But I was like, oh no, they hate me. Like all of these women hate me. And then –

you know, something happened, like some part of the event started moving along and like there was like a performance or something. So I didn't have time to be like, that's not what I meant or I hope you didn't take that the wrong way. And that was it. That was just the end of that conversation. Multiple writers who I think are really cool, like people that I'd love to work with. And I was like, oh no, they, that's it. They hate me forever. I'm like, that's it. That's it. No. They might. They might. Yeah.

They might, but part of me is like, oh no. And then another part of me is like, you know, there's plenty of fish in the sea. If those writers don't like me, then maybe some others will. There's so many writers. But secondly, I bet that it was not as bad as you think, or it might have been totally something else. But also, I've had those moments, man.

Oh, man. Celine Dion, beloved, iconic singer. And I said some dumb shit and everyone was like, excusez-moi. I mean, do you want me to share a really embarrassing one that will make you feel better? Sure. I'd love that. I'm not going to say the name, but after we got picked up by NBC Rescued, which was like that whole...

For those who don't know, our show got canceled. And like a day later, it got rescued by NBC. And it was this big whirlwind. And we got flown to New York. I was already there. But anyway, and it was like all of a sudden, two days later, we were like at the upfronts. And we were at this. And the day before, we were at this like NBC party. And I was so still in the whirlwind of everything that had happened. Like, oh my God, I can't believe we're here. Oh my God, I can't believe the show got saved. I can't believe we got, like, my brain was so just overloaded with things that

And also we were at this NBC party. We're, you know, learning new executives. We didn't know his name, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, and this actor who's famous,

was talking to Andy, I think. And I went up and we said hello. And then I said something like, oh, we got to have you on the show. And that person had already been on the show in a couple episodes. And I didn't work with them that much. And I don't know why it just like flew out of my mouth. Because I don't think I was present. I was just like, and then he was like, you were on

planet. He was like, yeah, I have. And I was like, right. I was just kidding.

Oh my God. It was so bad. Was he rude about it? No, he wasn't. He was a good sport about it, but he definitely thinks I'm a fucking idiot. And I just remember walking away with Andy and going, oh my God, did you hear what I said? And he said, yeah, bud, I did. I heard it. Oh God. Yeah, bud. Mortifying. Yeah, bud. God, I'm so sorry.

I just started sweating more thinking about it. That's pretty bad. That's pretty bad, dude. Well, sometimes just randomly think of that memory and dwell on it. So really. Yeah, thanks. That does make me feel better. So there you go. I'm not alone. You're not.

You're not alone. I am here with you. Wow. Jeez Louise, girl. I'm literally sweating. I'm sweating so bad just telling that story. Listen, if you think that you have a problem overthinking, don't overthink it. You're not alone. Yeah, exactly. You're not alone. We're all doing our best. Okay. So my big takeaway today is that I'm not alone. I'm great at picking furniture and-

There's a lot of fish in the sea. What about you? My big takeaway is I am not good at picking furniture. And next time I need to, I'm going to call Stephanie. And I'm going to stick to my practice of being decisive because that really helps my overanalyzing. Yeah. And try to be present when I feel like I'm getting lost in my head. Try to bring myself back to the present moment. Nice.

I like your five-minute tip. I think I am going to apply that sometimes. I'm going to be like, I can't make a decision about this thing. I'm just going to give myself a little timer, and then when it's over, I'm just going to choose. Just going to choose and move on to the next thing. Yeah. I feel a little more better about this. I also feel a little more better. I'm sweating profusely, but I feel a little more better. Yeah.

Don't overthink your sweat. It's fine. Thanks, girl. Yeah. Okay. See you guys next time. Remember, if you think of a topic that you want us to cover, please don't overthink it. Oh, my God. Stephanie, stop making that joke. And send it to us. Okay, bye. Bye. More, more, more, more, more, better.

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